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Rarely are we able to see the nose on our own face.
Yeah, I see that. People who have no reason to hide, that get to have their entire family covered vs. people who have had to historically hide, and may not have their whole family covered. I am sure it is the same when you compare rich and poor. You may not be able to find the nose, but I can see all of the pimples and crows feet.
Well, ain't it just grand that the United States isn't a god-damned theocracy that bases its laws off of religious doctrine. We actually have the rule of law - Like Article IV, Section 1, Full faith and Credit clause. And Amendment 14 equal protection of the laws.
My emphasis. I'd like to see a study on that.
Also, due to some diseases that disproportionately impact gay people, it would be better to look at changes in health between single gay people and ones who are allowed to marry. After all, if they were doing this type of study on, say, African Americans they would correct for increased heart disease that disproportionately impact this population.
Apples to oranges. What effect did it have on hetrosexuals who just live together under the same economic condtions. These reseachers need to go back to the chalkboard and re-figure before they use the terms reasonable or plausible. It seems abit oneside from what I read.
first of all their are pyschological problems with being gay, the most obvious one is struggling with a body that wants to be something else. secondly, the acceptance in society some have made the transition and some have not. Being gay has to be absolutely terrible and the ones that think otherwise are lying to themselves in an attempt to make others think this is an acceptable way to act. Lastly, many gays dont believe in God or have choosen to shun this notion altogether so I have to ask myself were do they get their moral reference, what philosophy do they subscribe to, because being gay has not been accepted over the last 2000 years by the majority of the population maybe its because people have tried it in the past and realized it didnt work then either.
What a bunch of dreck! It's obvious that you do not know any gay people. Moral reference? Try the "Golden Rule"
smarty1, you know this how? I agree with AZ Joel, What a load of dreck!
Yeah tell that to the victims of the gay pedophiles who prey on children, especailly the children they corrupted in the Boy Scouts who you people want to accept you...They don't believe in God because God does not approve of their life style as clearly stated in Romans nor do the Islamic hordes as stated in the Koran. So you can make up, create all kinds of wordy fantasies that you want and try and cover up for the fact that it is abnormal behavior..nothing more, nothing less..You don't find it weird that Men stick their sexual organs in the anus of another man...Your Sick....
eddie, how do you come up with the conclusion that gays are pedophiles? What is rattling in your little brain?
By the way, the God that you seem to believe in is not the God that you get to through Jesus Christ. It seems to me that the New Testament of the Bible is pretty clear, unlike the violent Old Testament. Do you consider yourself a good Christian? I know, you told me yourself:
eddie, do you really think that you are normal? Is "normal" the message that Jesus was trying to get across?
That's transsexualism, not homosexuality. I know they're both under the GLBT umbrella, but they're not interchangeable.
And yet, heterosexuals have anal intercourse probably as often as gay men. You don't find it weird that men stick their sexual organs in the anus of a woman? Have you ever been on the receiving end of fellatio? Shouldn't that be just as weird to you?
Fellatio and anal ARE weird. But the good kind of weird. The tingly awesome tight amazing kind of weird. ;)
Marriage is between one Man and one Woman. Period.
well said AP-1097554
"Marriage is between one Man and one Woman. Period."
In your special world you can say and do whatever you like but in the world that everyone else lives in, that traditional assumption will come to an end soon.
gays have been waiting for the end for thousands of years can you give me a date
and christians have been predicting the end of world for years. Can you give us a date?
Marriage should not be a legal institution, sounds like people are mentally disabled by societies traditional assumptions and $$ not lack of having someone officially.
@Ptownz. If you would familiarize yourself with the Code of Hammurabi you would know that marriage has been a legal institution since before Christianity existed.
Since the US is not a Christian nation(Re; Establishment Clause) what the Bible has to say about marriage only applies to believers and not to society at large. Christians may be the dominant religion but because they cannot use the ballot box to deny a minority the same rights that they enjoy GLBT marriage equality will be law in the USA by July 4th of 2013.
If you don't like GLBT marriage then I guess that you wouldnt be either having or attending one.
Our forefathers considered and REJECTED a national religion in favor of a SECULAR nation NOT UNDER GOD because many Europeans fled their countries due to religious persecution. That is why America has SEPARATION OF CHURCH and STATE. Embrace it or go back and read your bible which tells you to "love one another" and "judge ye not." YOU DO NOT have the right to impose biblical values on America. Stop lying!! We are NOT a Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu or any or specifically favored religious nation. Read the Constitution and Bill of Rights - Christian and Jesus is NEVER mentioned. Stop pushing YOUR beliefs down our throats - we do NOT believe it. Just like the Easter bunny and Santa Claus... it's all make believe. Go visit the Magic Kingdom and have a Magic Day!
What's missing from this study is a comparison to the health of cohabitating but unmarried hetero couples. That's a group that has the option for marriage but is not exercising. If their health outcomes are also lower than the straight married couples, then the hypothesis that marriage for gay couples will improve their health outcomes would be more valid.
justross,Excellent comments.You are a thinking person.I was losing hope that there were any posters who actually applied common sense to their posts.
I tend to agree with you Justross. I am a Christian and I do know what Jesus was about and I do live by the golden rule. I would very much like to see it as apples to apples and oranges to oranges for the unmarried. I also wonder how much income might have to do with it. I do not agree with the same sex lifestyle but not a hater and not looking for a reason to hate.
We've been saying this is wrong for years and years...Every Cop, Every Doctor in the ER, thousands of Psychcology Professionals know this. How many of the current Marriages have already failed..more than 70%. Every Country Health Department has had to increase their budget to cover the expenses associated with these people...So go on and tells us some more how normal they are......Dr. Liu is full of baloney and just fit the facts to agree with his summation...
Sexual marriages? What the hell is that?
I think at study like this, in terms of the changing social norms and roles with regards to gay people and straights, is doomed to may hidden bias that cannot be tweaked out via controlling for social/economic values. African Americans still suffer higher rates of disease , with certain factors fore mentioned taken into account, but, excluding and controlling for genetic factors. How can you compare, for example, poor gay people of color to upper middle class lesbians in Vermont or New Hampshire...too many factors to shift and way. This is social/ health study that will be found to be as dated as some of the social studies of hysterical behavior in the late 19th century.
Regardless as to what some people claim in these threads catering to homosexuals , kids of homosexual parents are NOT equally adjusted emotionally as kids of traditional marriage couples. Five studies, all done in the past 10 years,all from different sources, concluded the same . Of course ,GLAD or LGBT advocates will tell you differently because one study didn't find any difference between the two groups. however ,the writer of the paper has been called into question about his data collecting techniques and his final analysis. You can always find one scientist who can prove the earth is flat and support it with data.
Everyone thinks ObamaCare is going to be grand. Homosexuals see themselves married and adopting little Johnny or more likely Gianni and becoming a normal family. One goes off to work, one stays home with the apartment and kids. The "husband brings home the bacon which includes healthcare for everyone. Things will change when OC is implemented, Giavanni is going to cost, as is the little missy ,through the nose. There will be no handouts unless you are very poor. Homosexuals who make a nice income are going to find themselves unwilling to pay the exorbitant cost to cover a second or third person. I understand that OC will not be fully implemented until 201. Come back in 2016 and tell me how much you love dimocrap and how great OC is going to be after you get you 60% increase in healthcare cost. I bet you will find most homosexuals will choose not to get married so one can get free coverage from the government. Oh yea, forget about see orphanages closing down because of homosexual demands.
It doesn't matter what anybody think's ! I'm going to do what I feel is right for me what the hell you do or don't do in your bedroom or any other part of your house is none of my business but don't push your dysfunctional beliefs on me.At the end of the day the only one I answer to is GOD. If everybody is so happy and content with their lives why do you care what anybody else is doing. If you put as much energy into making your own lives happy you would have a life. People are going to do what they want whether you like it or not.Why don't you raise hell about the divorce rate or I guess that's no longer a sin because everyone's doing it. Pathetic.
The title speaks for itself....
Funny, the same people that in the 70's said marriage is nothing but a piece of paper are now saying that if only gays had that "piece of paper" all would be good? I speculate that the destructive nature of gay relationships is to blame for gays being miserable, not the lack of a silly piece of paper.
Depends on the couples but somebody got paid to research this crap!