Florida governor, a health reform foe, expands Medicaid

Florida governor Rick Scott, one of the biggest critics of President Obama’s health reform efforts, said Wednesday he would do the administration’s bidding and expand the Medicaid program.

But Scott said he was doing the expansion on his own terms: for three years only, while the federal government is footing the entire bill.

“While the federal government is committed to paying 100 percent of the cost of new people in Medicaid, I cannot, in good conscience, deny the uninsured access to care,” Scott said in a news conference.

“We will support a three-year expansion of our Medicaid program under the new health care law, as long as the federal government meets their commitment to pay 100 percent of the cost during this time. This legislation would sunset after three years and need to be reauthorized.”

Scott denied he was giving in to the administration. “It is not a white flag of surrender to government-run health care,” he said.

The 2010 Affordable Care Act was designed to transform health care in the United States, which most experts agree currently costs too much and leaves far too many people without health insurance. It was meant to provide more care to people who can’t buy insurance by forcing states to expand Medicaid.

The hope was to add about 16 million of the poorest people to the rolls -- about half of those who need health insurance. But after a series of challenges to the law, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in June that the Medicaid expansion requirement went too far. While most of the Affordable Care Act was constitutional, the court ruled, the federal government could not force states to offer Medicaid to more people.

The Congressional Budget Office projects that 12 million people will become newly eligible for Medicaid in the states that choose to expand their offerings by 2022. The law required states to extend Medicaid to people earning up to 133 percent of the federal poverty level, or about $14,800 for single people and $31,000 for a family of four.

Many Republican governors immediately said they wouldn’t expand Medicaid.

Texas governor Rick Perry turned down $76 billion in federal matching funds that would have helped pay to do it over the first five years. “We’re just not going to be a part of … socializing health care in the state of Texas,” Perry told reporters in July.

South Carolina’s Nikki Haley said expanding Medicaid would bring people out who were already qualified -- and she said that her state would go broke taking care of them, even if the federal government paid the bill for those who would newly qualify. In addition, states will have to start paying a very small percentage in 2017.

But health care experts predicted that many red states would not turn away free money from the federal government.

Arizona governor Jan Brewer said her state would expand Medicaid to about 300,000 residents in her state of the state address last month. Michigan governor Rick Snyder made his announcement Feb. 6: His state will add about 320,000 people to the joint state-federal health insurance plan for the low-income.

“I am forced to accept it as today’s reality and I have decided to expand Nevada’s Medicaid coverage,” Nevada governor Brian Sandoval, another Republican,  said in December.

Republican-leaning holdouts include Alabama, Louisiana, Idaho, Mississippi, South Carolina, Maine and 12 others.

Scott said he wasn’t happy, but said he was facing reality.

“There are no perfect options. Our options are either having Floridians pay to fund this program in other states while denying health care to our citizens or using federal funding to help some of the poorest in our state with the Medicaid program as we explore other health care reforms,” he said.

Left-leaning groups applauded.

“Now about 613,000 Florida women stand to gain the security of quality health coverage and the ability to get the care they need, when they need it, without facing huge medical bills,” said Judy Waxman of the National Women’s Law Center.

“Combined with other reforms in the Affordable Care Act, this expansion would reduce the percentage of uninsured women in Florida from 25.3 percent to 5.8 percent.”

Scott says he’s not against health reform, he just doesn’t like the approach taken in the 2010 health reform law.

“Before I ever dreamed of standing here today as Governor of this great state, I was a strong advocate for better ways to improve health care than the government-run approach taken in the President’s health care law,” he added.

“I believe in a different approach. But, regardless of what I -- or anyone else -- believes, a Supreme Court decision and a presidential election made the President’s health care mandates the law of the land.”

Scott says he will still refuse to set up a state health insurance exchange, leaving the federal government to run it.

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Looks like governor Rick Perry doesn't care about sick people who are poor.

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#1 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:15 PM EST

he can just give them a plane ticket to florida.

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#1.1 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:54 PM EST

Uh...the article is about Gov. Rick Scott of Florida...
not Rick Perry of Texas...
@^@

  • 8 votes
#1.2 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:44 PM EST

This is just to give him 'plausible deniability'. If it fails, he'll be on record as not liking it. If it succeeds, these comments will be disavowed as 'mistaken'.

Poor GOP; their 'principles' just won't let them win....

  • 14 votes
#1.3 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:54 PM EST

Just because you're poor doesn't make you entitled to healthcare.

  • 8 votes
#1.4 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:02 PM EST

Why should government be denied funds as often as possible? The phrase "turn away from free money" is your answer. Typical of all government--folks, there is no free money!! Those are your tax dollars and your neighbors and everyone you know that actually produces in this country.

The "well if we don't use it, some one else will" mentality is the exact reason why you should fight every tax increase possible...regardless of your tax bracket.

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:56 PM EST

Just because you're poor doesn't make you entitled to healthcare.

Jimboza, it does if you're a Christian. You guys floor me with your flash of convenient Christianity. My brother and his wife are Republicans that are both on disability, yet the whole time they collect their checks all they can do is disparage Obama and other Democrats for trying to do what's right. They spew that same venom that you do and as an American I am ashamed of both them and you. Before you push more hatred through the keyboard take a look at the situation "poor people getting healthcare" and ask yourself. "What would Jesus do?"

  • 36 votes
#1.6 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:01 PM EST

PEMBROKE, Amen to that. I live in a very Republican town and know many people who curse Obama while cashing their Social Security checks, having their medical needs attended to by Medicare not to mention all the public works projects that they support.

One couple I am friendly with is currently trying to get their son on disability as he was injured on the job. Nor does he currently have health care coverage. I asked them if they are going to thank Obama once their son is covered but can never get a straight response from them. It's enough to make you vomit at times, listening to all the hypocrisy.

  • 26 votes
#1.7 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:24 PM EST

" I never met a man I didn't like." - Will Rogers

Mr. Rogers never met Gov. Scott.

  • 17 votes
#1.8 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:30 PM EST

Gov. Scott will lick all of the icing off the cake as he refuses to eat the cake. That describes the juvenile mentality of most of the tea party officials in government. The man is a heartless and greedy thief. He belongs in the big-house instead of the statehouse.

  • 15 votes
#1.9 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:44 PM EST

jimboza

"Just because you're poor doesn't make you entitled to healthcare."

Just because I'm rich doesn't mean my insurance premiums should be raised to subsidize visits to the emergency room by the uninsured poor.

  • 7 votes
#1.10 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:08 AM EST

Yes it does. You can afford it.

  • 2 votes
#1.11 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:50 AM EST

For those of you who don't know, Rick is a Medicaid and Medicare thief. In a race with multiple candidates, a decent but weak democrat, and a low turnout, he was got the votes of and was elected by roughly 23.6% of the registered voters in FL. And that is a pretty good indicator of the extent of US population that is so stupid that it verges on the psychotic.

  • 9 votes
#1.12 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:21 AM EST

jimboza, we can be like China and let the poor fend for themselves. Is that what you want?

  • 3 votes
#1.13 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:30 AM EST

You gotta love the inbreds in Florida! This is the same governor that pushed for drug testing that resulted in only 3 percent of welfare recipients testing positive for drugs. But hell who cares when the majority of these clinics doing the drug test were owned by Rick himself! Conflict of interest...of course not! Why would that look suspicious from a man who settle out of court for a record fine for defrauding Medicare and the taxpayers are large whe he ran Columbia HCA?! Gotta love the BS hypocrisy...the threshold for the BS smell test is pretty high in FOOLrida!

  • 13 votes
#1.14 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:13 AM EST
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Follow the money. Rick, his cronies or both have found a way to make money from this. It's probably his old fraud schemes are getting dusted off.

  • 9 votes
#1.16 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:17 AM EST

This is just to give him 'plausible deniability'.

No, this is because Ricky is about to lose his reelection bid, and is desperate to keep it. He is one of the "Tea Party darlings" the mainstream GOP is going to dump, and he obviously thinks pretending he had a change of heart is a winning strategy.

Buh-bye, Rick! It's sucked knowing you! And be sure to let the door hit you at least three times on the way out!

  • 9 votes
#1.17 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:34 AM EST

The Republican governors who are against Obamacare are classic examples of idiots. They claim they are not going to expand medicaid in their states because they "oppose" government run health care. It's not government run health care; that would have been the single payer system which we didn't get. This is just government subsidized. Big difference. The government subsidizes farmers too but that doesn't mean they control their farms. So, instead, these governors are going to opt out of the program ALLOWING the federal government to run the health care exchanges in their state!!! The thinking goes like this: "I am opposed to government RUN health care, so I am going to allow it because I don't give a #$@! if poor people in my state have health coverage or not". Brilliant!! These governors are worthless.

  • 9 votes
#1.19 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:58 AM EST
DamyouDeleted

Damyou 3 years from now when people find out the real cost of this ACA, it will be radically changed.

That isn't what almost every modern civilization in the world has done, America can not only do what other advanced countries do but we can do it better. As far as taking care of your own I hope you don't mean providing in house surgery and medical diagnosis because before ACA too many people were refused health care policies by big business and could not get health care.

Rick Scott is just a republican thief who would vote against free air if the democrats proposed it and Perry is stupid if he thinks Texas doesn't have socialized health care already. Who does he think pays for the emergency room visits by the poor and uninsured - the taxpayer. ACA just organizes it.

  • 5 votes
#1.21 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:37 AM EST
DamyouDeleted

To all of those saying that being poor entitles you to have your health care paid for: What ever happened to free Charity care given out by Catholic and other religiously affiliated hospitals? The government is not the end-all-be-all for assisting the poor. Charity has always provided for the poor - now the government wants to muscle in on the traditional charity cases...Hey, Poor People, Obama wants to be your daddy!

  • 1 vote
#1.23 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:46 AM EST

Just because you're poor doesn't make you entitled to healthcare.

Yeah, you're right. We should encourage these people to die as quickly as possible so as not to inconvenience the rest of us. And think how much more we'd save if they weren't around to collect welfare, food stands, and Social Security.

Jimboza- Just because you are cruel doesn't mean you won't pay for the healthcare of others- we already do. It's much cheaper to the taxpayer to treat people outside of the emergency room at a scheduled visit.

I suspect Jimboza objects to requiring emergency rooms to care for the indigent, as well.

What ever happened to free Charity care given out by Catholic and other religiously affiliated hospitals?

They've been overwhelmed by an increasing number of people who need help, and a decreasing number of people who contribute.

It's the economy, stupid.

  • 1 vote
#1.24 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:06 AM EST

Sir Kit: did you ever hear of Herbert Hoover. His idea of ending the depression was to let the Red Cross take care of the people. Do you remember how that worked out.(Clue...Didn't) Duhhhhhhhh.,

  • 1 vote
#1.25 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:58 PM EST

pjd57 Pembroke Pines, FL you may be embarrassed of your relatives, but what is even more embarrassing is that somehow a fraudster thief like Rick Scott was elected governor. Major embarrassment.

  • 1 vote
#1.26 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:16 PM EST

Sick Rick Scott learned all his dirty skills from Jeb Bush, Reform Florida with a Democrat for Prosperity !!!

Than you have Marco Rubio down in Miami trying to turn Miami's little Cuba street signs to Spanish, this is getting Crazy, what is happening to this nation, could it be the H2O ???

  • 1 vote
#1.27 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:21 AM EST
Reply

Let's not forget the Fla Gov was involved with the largest medicare fraud in history! This must mean more scams for his friends to run.

  • 37 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:45 PM EST

And never even charged. Got elected instead. Then again, this is FLORIDA, right?

  • 21 votes
#2.1 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:15 PM EST

Herron

Scott was cleared of any wrongdoing, but don't let facts get in the way of slanted opnions.

  • 2 votes
#2.2 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:42 PM EST

DB Akron,

Scott was CE fu**ing O of the company when it was found guilty and fined. He pleaded the Fifth 75 times in his civil case. Let's not let common sense, honesty, or accountability enter into it. Maybe conservatives need to take common sense lessons from liberals. Bet your a big OJ and Casey Anthony fan, huh?

  • 30 votes
#2.3 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:53 PM EST

He is trying to get reelected to Governor. He is the most unpopular Republican Governor in the History of the State. He is getting desperate.

  • 18 votes
#2.4 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:11 PM EST

EXACTLY - he's laying the Sink Hole Groundwork for getting Re-Elected. He's the Joke of US Governors and simply trying to save his Political Career. And YES, he was the CEO of the Company that defrauded the Government of MILLIONS of Dollars, but it's okay because he pleaded Stupid by Amnesia and had to invoke his 5th Amendment Rights MULTIPLE times. Anything related to Medicare/Medicaid is ultimately going to put Big $'s in his pockets. Gov. Scott of FloriDUH!

  • 18 votes
#2.5 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:24 PM EST

Herron. Yes, he was not convicted. Yet, he plead the 5th amendment 73 times. Does that tell us something? O.J. Simpson was also not convicted. Perhaps that should have qualified him for Governor. He was a Florida transplant for awhile just like Scott. How many of us believe in Simpson's innocence simply because he escaped conviction? Now if O. J. had only been republican, who knows?

  • 9 votes
#2.6 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:49 PM EST

DB, you're lying. He wasn't cleared. He simply was not indicted. Your statement is the logical equivalent of saying Al Capone was cleared of murder.

  • 11 votes
#2.7 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:24 AM EST

db akron

Scott was cleared of any wrongdoing, but don't let facts get in the way of slanted opnions

No he was not cleared. He is just like the bankers recently. He agreed to pay a big fine so he wouldn't go to jail. But don't let facts get in the way of your opinions. We know you are not use to using facts.

  • 13 votes
#2.8 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:11 AM EST

Uggh I had a popular comment where I somehow in my speed typing used a "your" instead of a "you're". Embarrassing.

    #2.9 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:57 PM EST

    He is an embarrassment to our state, if you can even imagine that.

    • 1 vote
    #2.10 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:15 PM EST

    @Hot #2.10: You know. I can't imagine that. Florida can be rather-------------odd?

      #2.11 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:27 PM EST

      The Nation is Laughing at Florida how did a crook become Governor, looks like Sick Scott learned from Jeb Bush, anyone for a cup of tea ???

      • 1 vote
      #2.12 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:35 AM EST
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      Looks like NC gov pat mcrory doesn"t care about sick people who are poor also!!! Shame on him & the nc legislature!!

      • 2 votes
      Reply#3 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:52 PM EST

      Do you care about sick people that are poor?

      • 1 vote
      #3.1 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:03 PM EST

      Yeah, I believe I read good old Mike Pence, (would be Tea Party Presidential Candidate), now Governor of Indiana just said no too.

        #3.2 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:38 PM EST

        Do you care about sick people that are poor?

        Yeah, I do. It's obvious you don't.

          #3.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:09 AM EST

          Jim: Do you care about sick people that are poor? Yes I do. I especially care about sick, poor CHILDREN- Our children need health care, our children need the food stamp program (this is non-negotiable) our children need 'head start' programs. Religious charities are wonderful and provide a valuable service but can not provide relief on a consistant basis-WE THE PEOPLE must work TOGETHER for the good of ALL. I WANT my taxes to go to programs that help the weak and the poor-our children and seniors, the sick, the homeless-quite frankly I do not understand this "I've got mine too bad for you" attitude. A little compassion and empathy go a long way..............

            #3.4 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:25 PM EST
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            Gov Scott won't be governor after Jan 2015 so this expansion will last. Scott will never get re-elected.

            • 20 votes
            Reply#4 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:06 PM EST

            He bought and paid for his first term, he may still have enough money in the kitty to do it again. I doubt anyone knows for sure how much money his company HCA/Columbia got away with, he should love the Medicaid program...

            • 13 votes
            #4.1 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:36 PM EST
            Reply

            Politics.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#5 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:15 PM EST

            Hmmm....
            I think the move is quite Ayn Rand if you ask me....
            If the country is going to flounder due to the "moochers"...might as well get as many people on the government tit as quickly as possible to bankrupt the "moocher" system....make it so bloated that the system collapses under its own stupidity...

            a very objectivist move indeed....

            And once the country is under the throes of complete economic collapse, the "objectivist elite" will present themselves as our saviours...and we'll vote them into office just to end the madness...

            Or...we'll "Balkanize" and break up into smaller economic entities....ruled, of course, by the "objectivist elite"...

            either way, the play may be intended to help facilitate this transition...

            And the Left, as usual, misses the play....

            • 3 votes
            Reply#6 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:32 PM EST
            Comment author avatarScott Callahanvia Facebook

            You speak of the poor and downtrodden as "moochers" who will bankrupt us, yet you fail to mention the true leeches in our society -- the military industrial establishment. They take more money from the taxpayers in a few minutes than everyone on government assistance, collectively, in a year or more. Don't blame the unfortunate in society for problems caused by the people with power and influence.

            • 25 votes
            #6.1 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:44 PM EST

            Interesting that you don't understand Ayn Rand's work...
            The moochers aren't the "poor and downtrodden"...they are the ones who use public funds towards purposes which public funds are not meant for...
            and the Military/Industrial Complex is not a "moocher" establishment, it is a "looter" establishment...
            moochers (people who mooch off the public till to pay for their pet social project) ask for money to "help" others...
            looters (people who take from the public till with little or no social benefit) take money and spend it on themselves...

            You need to punch your college professors dead in their collective(ist) schnozes. (that is...hit them in the nose)

            • 1 vote
            #6.2 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:49 PM EST

            It's like this;
            the "moocher" establishment wanted to limit the number of minority babies born in the US...so they created "Planned Parenthood" to do it...and they get the government to pay for the aborted minority babies...
            only they keep two sets of books..
            one set for the money that they receive (supposedly) from other sources and from income received, the other set for the government funds they receive...a practice that is PATENTLY ILLEGAL in any other company. Alas, the moocher establishment, still seeking to limit the number of "unwanted" births of your so-called "poor and downtrodden"...turn a blind eye to this illegal practice...
            Even though it is not the place of the government to give money to a private company (it's called "mooching"...)

            But hey, that's not to say that abortion or contraception should be illegal...it's just that from the Objectivist point of view, the government should not be giving money to a private company to artificially support it. Ayn Randists would most definitely balk at the whole concept of "stimulus packages" and "TARP" funds as being free handouts to companies that should, by all rights, collapsed because of their poor business management practices and unethical behaviours.

            • 1 vote
            #6.3 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:56 PM EST

            The government is already bankrupt.

              #6.4 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:04 PM EST

              Well, jimboza, the Government is not "bankrupt" until its ability to confiscate wealth(tax) or borrow money is curtailed by economic collapse; it will never be "bankrupt".
              However, the ability of the Government to function can be crippled by its own destructive economic policies (such as printing fiat currency with nothing to back it...), something that measures like what Governor Scott have begun seem to be pushing for...

              eventually, as the government is no longer able to maintain a military or pay its civilian workforce a decent wage or even keep the lights on in the White House or Pentagon, the states will have free reign to do as they will...even secede if they wish. The Federal Government will whine and cry and the various states will just tell them to "pound sand"...as they reconstruct (along more conservative lines) the country.

              There is one constitutional power the states have that can cause the economic collapse of the US Dollar, and by it the Federal (moocher/looter) government...and that is make their own silver and gold coins. None of the states have done it, yet, as it is a very..well...incendiary act...

              Anyhow, before the "objectivists" have their way, the Federal government will become near tyrannical in its confiscatory acts...even going so far as to arrest the "objectivists" and "conservatives" for their "unamericanism". (It has happened in the past, during Wilson's administration.)

                #6.5 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:16 PM EST

                Save your words, write a book, make some money, move to France.

                  #6.6 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:32 PM EST

                  I'm trying, but the book is like a "Wealth of Nations" For Dummies...

                  but maybe you are right...(btw, I'm not an Objectivist)

                    #6.7 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:34 PM EST

                    Patrick,

                    Funny you should mention a tyrannical government prosecuting American's for their 'unamerican' activities.

                    The poorly educated Russian journalistic hack you so admire, Ayn Rand, happily testified against actual, not naturalized, Americans in 1947 before the House Un-American Activities Committee.

                    How's that for Unamericanism?

                    • 6 votes
                    #6.8 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:42 PM EST

                    So did Ronald Reagan...(or so I'm told)...
                    And do you know who was one of the prosecuting attorneys for the House Unamerican Activities Committee? Yup...none other than Richard Milhouse Nixon.

                    My intent on writing was to point out the effect that Randism (Objectivism) and classical economic theory (Adam Smith) have on the conservatives...

                    In this case, I would consider Gov. Scott not a pure Objectivist, but an opportunist...a person who sees an opportunity to control more economic and political power by facilitating the perceived moocher/looter policies of the present administration. For the most part, conservatives do not like Keynesian economics but are more aligned with the Austrian School of economics...
                    and with a dash of Ayn Rand thrown in...

                    For the Randists and many conservatives, books like Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" is prophetic, like the Book of Revelation and other prophesies are to many evangelical christians....and they see an opportunity in a general US economic and governmental collapse as an opportunity for unfettered capitalism.

                    • 4 votes
                    #6.9 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:56 PM EST

                    People who are acolytes of Ayn Rand are exactly the same people who would be acolytes of Ron Hubbard.

                    • 5 votes
                    #6.10 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:45 AM EST

                    Rand was a paranoid megalomaniac, verging on psychosis. Her analysis and her prescriptions reflect her mental instabilities.

                    • 5 votes
                    #6.11 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:27 AM EST
                    Reply

                    Rick Scott is just trying to improve his low approval ratings and get re-elected. He will fail on both accounts.

                    • 13 votes
                    Reply#7 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:36 PM EST

                    Perry only cares for the 1%. He is doing everything he can to make life for the rest of us really miserable. Texas is the home of one of the worst education systems in the country and the lowest wage jobs in the country. Come on down!

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#8 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:38 PM EST

                    Really? Lowest wage jobs? Oil industry pays pretty well. Maybe you should get your GED and get a job there.

                      #8.1 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:05 PM EST

                      That's pretty funny..

                      Considering the article is about Gov. Rick Scott...

                      and not Gov. Rick Perry.

                      I'm with jimboza on this one...

                      • 1 vote
                      #8.2 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:18 PM EST

                      Actually the story is about all of the GOP controlled states, not just FL and Rick Scott. Otherwise, this paragraph would not have been included:

                      Texas governor Rick Perry turned down $76 billion in federal matching funds that would have helped pay to do it over the first five years. “We’re just not going to be a part of … socializing health care in the state of Texas,” Perry told reporters in July.

                      Or the one that followed:

                      South Carolina’s Nikki Haley said expanding Medicaid would bring people out who were already qualified -- and she said that her state would go broke taking care of them, even if the federal government paid the bill for those who would newly qualify. In addition, states will have to start paying a very small percentage in 2017.

                      • 4 votes
                      #8.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:22 AM EST

                      South Carolina’s Nikki Haley said expanding Medicaid would bring people out who were already qualified --

                      So Haley's gon on record as being opposed to paying for people who were already qualified?

                        #8.4 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:17 AM EST

                        That's the part of the story that stuck out for me...Even if they qualify, we don't want to help them.

                          #8.5 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:30 AM EST
                          Reply

                          Florida, if it weren't for the weather who would live in that swamp?

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#9 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:40 PM EST

                          The reason Scott says he's only going to do it for 3 years? Because he won't be around after the next election. Say goodnight, Scottie.

                          • 11 votes
                          Reply#10 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:56 PM EST

                          I'm struggling to see where that was an option. Seems to me that is a very loose interpretation of the SC ruling. The deal was they could get in at any time, but I don't see where they can withdraw when they want. If you wait to get in, you just end up getting less time for 100% of Federal funding. But then it starts getting a little state matching funds up to a maximum of 10% in 2022.

                          So I guess his plan is to throw those people off Medicaid after 3 years? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense if you want your head handed to you. And when he drops those people, the health care industry in the state takes a major hit when those people are no longer being treated. All of those billions the Federal government gives him for their health care will add to the state's economy and the he's going to pull the plug on it? Take advantage of it while it costs nothing then change your mind when you have to kick in a little.

                          That's like accepting some deal for some living room furniture at no money down and no payments for a year, and then thinking you can just give it back when you have to make a payment.

                          Any state rejecting this is just being stupid. They are not going to get a break on Federal taxes for not taking it, so they will just be helping fund the states that accept it. If thumbing your nose at Obama is that important to you, you have your priorities a bit mixed up. Some states who already covered many of their poor with health care will not have much to pay when their portion kicks and states with a lot of uninsured will have a bit bigger bill to pay. But at the same time, those states with the most uninsured, will see the biggest rise in their economies and at virtually no cost to them for 3 years.

                          • 5 votes
                          #10.1 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:36 PM EST

                          Agreed, NewDay... It appears that political expediency supercedes common sense and decency in many of the republican controlled states.

                          • 1 vote
                          #10.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:00 AM EST

                          It appears that political expediency supercedes common sense and decency in many of the republican controlled states.

                          When did it not?

                          • 1 vote
                          #10.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:21 AM EST
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                          when will the RINO's return to the party principle's of self independence and limited government and just no to 'england'....

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#11 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:11 PM EST

                          Right wing 'Merka begins the painful process of embracing reality....

                          How deliciously amusing....

                          Next up.... I'm guessing, little scotty walker in WI.....

                          ""Florida governor Rick Scott, one of the biggest critics of President Obama’s health reform efforts, said Wednesday he would do the administration’s bidding and expand the Medicaid program.""

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#12 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:12 PM EST

                          (I told you that the Left missed the play...
                          they don't even know WHY Gov. Scott did it!
                          Amazing!)

                            #12.1 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:19 PM EST

                            Yeah,.. I read you're baseless , incoherent gibberish....

                            anus rand.... junior high level fiction... at best.....

                            little scotty played the only card he had left.... before he gets voted out, that is...

                            • 2 votes
                            #12.2 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:22 PM EST

                            Obviously you haven't read Ayn Rand's gibberish...

                            And your comments are exactly what an objectivist would expect from one such as yourself. (just so you know, while I am a Republican, a capitalist, and a conservative, I am by no stretch of the imagination an Objectivist nor an Ayn Rand cultist. I do, however, understand the Rand mentality and the motivations of such people)

                              #12.3 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:32 PM EST

                              Patrick, I hate to have to tell you this, but almost everyone on the planet, but for randians, understands the mentality and motivations of the old nutbag's followers.

                              Pretty much the same group understands the same, um, qualities, of republickan conservatives.

                              • 2 votes
                              #12.4 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:43 AM EST
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                              Scott is just setting up his next big monopoly in the medical field that he can move into when he gets booted out of office next election or BEFORE.

                              • 6 votes
                              Reply#13 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:18 PM EST

                              Our less-than-honest Governor will be gone in two years. Stunts like this won't get him reelected. Even Republicans don't like him. He was ousted at Columbia/HCA for being asleep at the wheel, while the company was involved in 14 felonies (kickbacks, bilking Medicare, etc.) that ended up costing it over two billion dollars in settlements and fines. After leaving Columbia/HCA, he became a vulture capitalist, before running for Governor. He is also suspected of being in cahoots with the Koch brothers.

                              • 8 votes
                              Reply#14 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:40 PM EST

                              Asleep at the wheel is extremely generous. This guy is one of the lowest of his very low peers.

                              • 8 votes
                              #14.1 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:56 PM EST
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                              Rick Scott is President Obama's bitch now, really . . .

                              Really! :-D

                              • 5 votes
                              Reply#15 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:44 PM EST

                              We hate Scott. We love Scott. He hates poor people. He uses sick people. He is only doing this to get re-elected. He is only doing this to pander.

                              Is he the King of State of Florida? No one else lives here? No one else helps run the State? Give it a rest, already.

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#16 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:49 PM EST

                              cheer up, according to Rick Scott's campaign promise, he has created 200,000 new jobs by now. How's it going? Where are those jobs, Mr. Scott?

                              • 2 votes
                              #16.1 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:10 PM EST

                              He hasn't created 200,000 jobs, but he's created a few that pay $200,000. His cronies who are now employed are grateful.

                              • 3 votes
                              #16.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:40 AM EST
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                              "come on folks, medicare and medicaid are meant to line my pockets... not to care for the poor and elderly."

                              -rick scott

                              • 9 votes
                              Reply#17 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:51 PM EST

                              I don't see anything wrong with caring for our own citizens. They will have to pay something. It's better than wasting the money on war and tanks aging in the desert.

                              • 5 votes
                              Reply#18 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:06 PM EST

                              This from the governor who tried so hard to eliminate voting opportunities in FL to try to keep Obama from wining the state; and who led a company that took millions improperly from Medicare...Now he's offering Medicaid if the Federal govt. pays the whole thing. When will the people of FL tell him to go packing? He is a hypocrite par excellence.

                              • 4 votes
                              Reply#19 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:16 PM EST

                              The Governor's move is to keep cheap labor in his state, so underpaid workers will not be able to move wherever opportunity is because they won't have health care when they move out of state!

                              • 2 votes
                              Reply#20 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:23 PM EST

                              All States will do this. 20% of the population is going to get obama care. That is, 4-10k subsidy per patient on 50 million plus. Expand your rolls and have 100% paid for by the feds. States would be fools not to take the deal.....By the time this is done, the federal deficit will be 2 trillion per year and we can watch it all disentegrate. Their aint' gonna be death panels, but you will die waiting to see a doctor cause the ama and medicare will decide not to train anymore of your average 200-300k per year docs. Budget cuts you know- dat cost is too high. Everyone will be talking about "controlling cost", only if you control grandma from getting her 3 rd hip replacement...Ha ha .... this whole thing is going to be entertaining to watch.

                                Reply#21 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:47 PM EST

                                I am a medical software rep for one of the major and most established Healthcare software companies in the world. I talk to 2 or 3 Ambulatory practices (Non-Hospitals, Your doctor's office) everyday. They are required to implement Electronic Healthcare Records or they eventually will be hit with penalties that increase year over year. If you heard the conversations I engage in everyday on a typical Doctor's office plan to deal with Obamacare, you would be PETRIFIED!!! Even though the government has offered an incentive to PAY for the software they need to meet the government requirement. They are saying no. Many have now planned retirement, are converting to a concierge practice, refusing to take additional Medicare or Medicaid patients, refusing to submit the Medicare or Medicaid claims for their current patients, INSTEAD requiring payment upfront then giving those patients the claim forms to attempt to get reimbursed themselves. SO, for those on Medicare or Medicaid... providers are going to be few and far between. This means, long wait times for appointments, less quality healthcare for these folks (C'mon if your boss paid you less for doing a particular task, how much effort would you put into it?) AND in 2014 things are going to get REALLY expensive for all of us, if you understand the law. This is going to be a disaster!

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#22 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:05 PM EST

                                Connie, Have you ever met a doc who didn't whine about their pay? Regardless if the average doc makes 250 plus and are handed a golden spoon... that would be like a farmer telling you about how bad the crops are. What the are odd? 99% ...1-2-3 percent cut to medicare is chicken feed if the hospital is writing the checks for the emrs .

                                Also, if the government wanted to cure this access issue...all they gotta say is "doc" , you will pay a fine in above our "prescribed" schooling we offer in the precepter program if you don't take Medicare patients... Say 20%-40%. ...Now, I am not forcing you to buy this product...But if you want to be come a doc...Just sign here. Well? Tell me what you would like to do....That' would be obamacare fitting. After all, no one is telling these docs they have to buy anything. Just a friendly fine and confiscating your house via the IRS if you don't.

                                  #22.1 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:32 PM EST

                                  Funny, like you I work for one of the biggest health care companies in the country, and it's my job to solicit and write requirements, design and test systems that save money, time and resources, and implement the new requirements of the PPAHCA. Everyone that I talk to see the new rules working just the way they were designed, to reduce cost and waste. It's working now, no matter how much propaganda you want to catapult.

                                  • 8 votes
                                  #22.2 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:49 PM EST
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                                  Well of course the governor doesnt like Obama care, he owns several HCAs in Florida. Florida is going down the drain since the tea party took over there.

                                  • 7 votes
                                  Reply#23 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:34 PM EST

                                  Although everyone here seems to hate Rick Scott, the simple fact is that he made the right call for the people of Florida. Florida taxpayers will be funding the Obamacare debacle as much if not more so than other states (Florida is still a "donor" state to the federal tax pile). Thus, the state's residents should at least see some benefit from that taxation since they have to pay it anyway. Whether Obamacare is wise, will work, will remain fiscally viable, or will endure beyond the three year authorization period are questions outside the scope of his decision today. If people can get off their soap boxes long enough, they will see his decision was prudent and justified. And with all things government, it can be revisited down the road since the legislation will have to be re-authorized. Good job Governor Scott.

                                    Reply#24 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:13 AM EST

                                    Rick Scott - another scratch-a-Kl@n Repugn@nt, backing out of his "carved in stone" positions as soon as he gets clobbered by the fiscal reality of Federal government's assistance. Florida = net mooching State.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    Reply#25 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:31 AM EST
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