In wake of Mindy McCready's death, tips for helping suicidal loved ones

Your spouse is despondent, says life isn’t worth living – and has a gun. What do you do?

It’s a common scenario – suicide rates among young adults increased more than 200 percent over the past 50 years and suicide is the 10th leading cause of death in the United States, according to federal statistics.

This weekend’s apparent suicide of singer Mindy McCready highlights one other statistic about suicide – people who use guns are far more likely to actually kill themselves than people who attempt suicide using pills, car exhaust or some other method.

“More than 50 percent of suicides in this country are committed using firearms,” says Dr. Liza Gold, a professor of psychiatry at Georgetown University Medical Center. “If you limit the means, you can save people’s lives.”

But getting a gun away from anyone can be difficult, as the recent debate over changes to gun laws can demonstrate. Gold and her colleague Dr. Alan Newman have some pointers for friends, relatives and caregivers of people who might be at risk of suicide and who have access to guns.

“If you have a family member with chronic mental illness, guns should not be accessible to that person,” Gold said in a telephone interview. “People are often ambivalent about committing suicide. They go back and forth, and they are scared, especially if it’s in a moment of crisis. If you can get them through that crisis period, often they can get better.”

With a gun, "there is no second chance," says Gold.

Rule number one – don’t fight over the gun. “Never try to disarm anyone,” she says. “You definitely don’t want to get into a shoving match over a weapon with someone who in distress…and potentially might not be thinking clearly or rationally,” she added.

“If you know the person has access to a weapon, is suicidal, and is not willing to give up the weapon or becomes agitated if you ask for it, back off and call the police immediately. The people most likely to be shot and killed by family members -- with or without mental illness -- are other family members.”

It’s also important not to make the person defensive. Gold recommends using “I” language. “You say, ‘Look, I am worried about you. I love you and I am concerned,’” Gold advises. “You say, ’I would feel better if you would let me take the gun out of the house. I would feel better, would it be okay if I made the gun safe?’”

It is much less threatening, Gold says, than accusations. “If you say, ‘You’re crazy -- give me that gun right now’, people don’t respond well to that kind of approach. Let them know you are worried. Let them know it’s temporary and you are not taking it away from them forever.”

It’s also all right and downright desirable to contact a loved one’s doctor, says Newman. It’s not a violation of doctor-patient confidentiality if the doctor doesn’t reveal anything about the patient.

“A lot of clinicians make a mistake – they have somebody they are giving psychotherapy to or giving medications to and the relationship is all doctor-patient. They don’t communicate with the family,” Newman says.

“In that case, the doctor is pretty much limited to what the patient tells them.” A psychiatrist needs to know if someone who is depressed and potentially suicidal has a way to get hold of a gun.

“If the family wants to give you information, in that case you are not violating confidentiality. You are listening,” Newman says.

Doctors need to be careful in reaching out to family members. “I have seen everything you can imagine, from family members who don’t want the person to get better to family members who are afraid that if they tell you about firearms, the gun may be confiscated,” Newman says.

He advises giving patient and family members alike a plan for keeping the patient safe. “The worst thing is to say to the family right before they leave is to make sure you get rid of the guns. It shouldn’t be an offhand comment,” he said.

And then a doctor needs to check back and make sure the gun has been removed or locked up.

In the worst case, the police are trained to deal with people who are armed and possibly suicidal, and it may be necessary to call them, Newman and Gold both said. “At the end of the process, if you really feel like someone is imminently dangerous – that is the criteria for involuntary detainment in pretty much every state,” Gold says.

“Certainly they will at the very least send a mental health crisis team or a police officer to see what is going on.”

Newman recommends the American Association of Suicidology’s website for more advice. 

 

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It's so unfortunate that no one knew about the gun she had or forgot to take it away. Whatever the circumstance, it is a terrible waste of a talented woman who had children that needed her. It was probably a bad idea for her to be left alone so soon after her boyfriend's suicide. I've found this story to just be so hard to take.

    Reply#1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:00 PM EST

    One more good reason for stricter gun control. Of course, the NRA and the gun nutz don't care about the damage their violent hobby does to society, as long as they can have their guns.

      Reply#2 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:02 AM EST

      Amen, brother (or sister).

        #2.1 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:19 PM EST
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        There are sentinel events in life which are flags for potential suicide:

        1) loss of health

        2) loss of a significant relationship (eg. divorce or break up)

        3) loss of a significant other by death

        4) loss of job

        5) loss of home

        6) loss of savings

        7) substance abuse

        When three or four are present simultaneously, the subject is at grave risk for suicide and needs immediate counseling.

        When five our more are present a suicide attempt is imminent. This person needs counseling and observation until the crisis passes to a manageable level. At this level a suicide attempt will be made.

        Women are more likely to kill themselves with drugs or poison. Getting rid of guns is a good idea but leaving high risk people unattended will result in suicide by some other means.

          Reply#3 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:31 AM EST

          Um, do you make a living as a counselor perchance? Someone who has rapidly lost his family, his health and the ability to keep a roof over his head is very likely to feel "depressed" and with darn good reason; however, this in no way means that he is guaranteed to choose suicide, as you claim above. "Will be made"? To say this, you should be able to cite a publication reporting that 100% of people who suffer the specified number of losses or problems attempt suicide, and with an adequate sample size.

          I do not intend to speak ill of the dead, but some people suspected that this woman's boyfriend did not actually commit suicide; the alternative was that she might have shot him. I have no reason to believe that, but if it were true, having killed your lover would certainly be an understandable reason to take your own life.

            #3.1 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:34 AM EST
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            “If you have a family member with chronic mental illness, guns should not be accessible to that person,” Gold said in a telephone interview.

            Would that the Newtown killer's mother had had the sense to do that.

              Reply#4 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:18 PM EST
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