Lost my faculty position at a major university after 12 years due to NIH cuts and forced to retire due to nothing else available. These cuts to research have been going on the past 5 years; only 1/10 grants submitted are being funded.
I completely understand your situation AW-1027. I was a faculty member at one of the most prestigious research institutions in the country and had had 27 straight years of successful NIH funding, which included most of my own salary. When my last grant was up for renewal two years ago, I astutely saw the handwriting on the wall and decided to retire rather than go against the tide. I've been a reviewer for NIH for many years and to believe that only the top 10% of research proposals are worth funding is utterly absurd. The current climate for medical research in this country, not to mention what it will be with the sequester, is so totally ridiculous that it's simply driving successful researchers like me from academia. Fortunately, I was close enough to retirement that I could choose that alternative, but heaven help my younger colleagues!
We, the people of this country, actually got quite a good return on that investment. In addition to the dozen or so PhD students and postdocs who were trained and continued on to work in industrial biotechnology research jobs, there were several potential drug candidates that were advanced to human trials for the treatment of brain and pancreatic cancer. That doesn't even begin to count the number of PhD students who rotated through my lab over the years and who have gone on to do important biomedical research in other areas. Don't be such a cynic, Mr. Wizard! There is an enormous amount of good research that never makes it to clinically useful drugs. Just ask Merck, Genentech, Amgen, etc.
Not only does government-funded science create a lot of jobs, it is also the only way to find cheaper treatments and treatments for rare diseases. Drug companies have every right to turn a profit, but the need for profit prevents them from looking for new uses for old drugs, drugs for rare diseases, or treatments that don't involve an expensive new drug or device. Drug companies also don't do the tedious studies of how diseases are caused or how they can be prevented. They rely on university scientists to provide that information, then use it to develop drugs. Investment in research provides many benefits that most people are completely unaware of. A strange, heat-tolerant bacteria has revolutionized medicine and allowed for DNA analysis used to convict criminals. Most of the big discoveries come from universities, not private companies. And universities throughout the world are mostly funded by governments.
It appears that federal funds help to train those phd who go to work for private industry? Something wrong with this picture. Gov does not create jobs. It simply collects money from a group of people and spends it. Jobs are created by the private sector. These jobs are created by people who take risk with their money.
Lot's of excellent research is currently unfunded. On the other hand, lack of research is not our biggest public health problem. Researchers like me with many years of training are losing our jobs. This is an economic problem, not a public health problem. And still, academia keeps pumping out more Ph.D. candidates.
This is an age old trick... If you cut my budget I can't do your special project. It's just BS, any leader who can't work through a 5% budget cut doesn't deserve the job.
The principle reason for NIH research is long term economics.
Research is an economic driver. Not funding it is an extreme mistake. Without science and technology innovation, our country becomes a country of bankers, service deliverers, weapons creators, war creators, lawyers, and entertainers. Maybe we can increase manufacturing, but high labor manufacturing will always follow cheapest labor in today's global society. We must innovate or die. New technologies are something we can export!
Our universities are an engine! Increase research funding, open our borders to PhDs from other countries, create tremendous incentives for private funding, and watch what happens!
A colleague of mine was having issues getting his green card after being offered a position at an unnamed oil company.
Funny thing, I told him to drive into Mexico, cross illegally, and he'd be given amnesty and able to stay in the country, sort of as a joke. For the record, he has a PhD in mechanical engineering, focusing on fluid dynamics. How in the heck is it that we aren't trying harder to keep people like him, yet letting anyone that manages to have a baby here stay?
Nice try. Since when did we as Americans actually care about medical research and health?
Lost my faculty position at a major university after 12 years due to NIH cuts and forced to retire due to nothing else available. These cuts to research have been going on the past 5 years; only 1/10 grants submitted are being funded.
I completely understand your situation AW-1027. I was a faculty member at one of the most prestigious research institutions in the country and had had 27 straight years of successful NIH funding, which included most of my own salary. When my last grant was up for renewal two years ago, I astutely saw the handwriting on the wall and decided to retire rather than go against the tide. I've been a reviewer for NIH for many years and to believe that only the top 10% of research proposals are worth funding is utterly absurd. The current climate for medical research in this country, not to mention what it will be with the sequester, is so totally ridiculous that it's simply driving successful researchers like me from academia. Fortunately, I was close enough to retirement that I could choose that alternative, but heaven help my younger colleagues!
And for 27 straight years of funding and paying most of your salary, we got what in return?
We, the people of this country, actually got quite a good return on that investment. In addition to the dozen or so PhD students and postdocs who were trained and continued on to work in industrial biotechnology research jobs, there were several potential drug candidates that were advanced to human trials for the treatment of brain and pancreatic cancer. That doesn't even begin to count the number of PhD students who rotated through my lab over the years and who have gone on to do important biomedical research in other areas. Don't be such a cynic, Mr. Wizard! There is an enormous amount of good research that never makes it to clinically useful drugs. Just ask Merck, Genentech, Amgen, etc.
I tried to pitch you a big old fat one so you could hit it out of the park! You were doing so well, then you blew it at the end!
Not only does government-funded science create a lot of jobs, it is also the only way to find cheaper treatments and treatments for rare diseases. Drug companies have every right to turn a profit, but the need for profit prevents them from looking for new uses for old drugs, drugs for rare diseases, or treatments that don't involve an expensive new drug or device. Drug companies also don't do the tedious studies of how diseases are caused or how they can be prevented. They rely on university scientists to provide that information, then use it to develop drugs. Investment in research provides many benefits that most people are completely unaware of. A strange, heat-tolerant bacteria has revolutionized medicine and allowed for DNA analysis used to convict criminals. Most of the big discoveries come from universities, not private companies. And universities throughout the world are mostly funded by governments.
It appears that federal funds help to train those phd who go to work for private industry? Something wrong with this picture. Gov does not create jobs. It simply collects money from a group of people and spends it. Jobs are created by the private sector. These jobs are created by people who take risk with their money.
Lot's of excellent research is currently unfunded. On the other hand, lack of research is not our biggest public health problem. Researchers like me with many years of training are losing our jobs. This is an economic problem, not a public health problem. And still, academia keeps pumping out more Ph.D. candidates.
This is an age old trick... If you cut my budget I can't do your special project. It's just BS, any leader who can't work through a 5% budget cut doesn't deserve the job.
eat more chicken ,dont take the flu shot ,and you will live longer! ooh yeah and keep on dancin ...........
The principle reason for NIH research is long term economics.
Research is an economic driver. Not funding it is an extreme mistake. Without science and technology innovation, our country becomes a country of bankers, service deliverers, weapons creators, war creators, lawyers, and entertainers. Maybe we can increase manufacturing, but high labor manufacturing will always follow cheapest labor in today's global society. We must innovate or die. New technologies are something we can export!
Our universities are an engine! Increase research funding, open our borders to PhDs from other countries, create tremendous incentives for private funding, and watch what happens!
A colleague of mine was having issues getting his green card after being offered a position at an unnamed oil company.
Funny thing, I told him to drive into Mexico, cross illegally, and he'd be given amnesty and able to stay in the country, sort of as a joke. For the record, he has a PhD in mechanical engineering, focusing on fluid dynamics. How in the heck is it that we aren't trying harder to keep people like him, yet letting anyone that manages to have a baby here stay?