Yes ....you will be the death of the entire human race ....thanks a lot TFNJ

I've always wanted to be an evil overlord.

Everybody I know who got the flu shot this year, got the flu. I'm still getting over it. Will I take the shot again next year? Probably. Just because my case of the flu wasn't too bad and neither was the rest of the people I know who had the shot. Am I blaming unvaxed people for this outbreak? No way. I'm blaming the vaccine makers for not covering this strain of the flu that's going around in this year's flu shot.

How many of you get the flu shot and then get the flu.

Yu all better look into alternative media about flu shots before you ever get one again.

Your immune system get stronger if you do not get the shots.

Europe has a major flu outbreak as well.

"Flu spreads to 47 states"

Obama wants to know which 5 states don't have the flu epidemic yet....

Everybody I know who got the flu shot this year, got the flu.

Everybody you know isn't EVERYBODY. :)

Your immune system get stronger if you do not get the shots.

That's rubbish. The Flu-shot consists of the same virus in a dead form to fool your immune system into early action so the antibodies will be present when the LIVE flu tries to attach your system.

@ frisbeetwerp ......all kidding aside....you would do better to load up on raw foods ....Fruits and veggies (uncooked). That is were all your vitamins are. Not in a pill or a vaccine.

Max, that's because there is a European version of a TFNJ there as well. Its an evil takeover plot.

You WILL get symptoms of the flu after being vaccinated, it's normal. But to get the full blown flu, that's something I definetly DO not want to experience! I haven't had my flu shot yet, haven't had one in 7 years, never got the flu. I load up on good sleep, liquids, eat alot of herbs and excersize.

The only way to avoid contracting the TFNJ flu is eating a 16 ounce rib-eye and drinking a twelve pack of good pale ale. Seems to work for me.

And just to play it safe, an hour of XBOX in the evening.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/keyfacts.htm

Dont need CDC links Jeff. I am 100% all the facts I need.

Dont need CDC links Jeff. I am 100% all the facts I need.

Yeah, you sure show it which is why I provided the link. You didn't prove to me you have any facts from what you've been pooping out this morning. :)

If I were Arnold Swartznegger, I would say you are whining like a girly man. Relax dude.

Your panic does not equal everyone's panic. I'm 47 years old, and have never had a flu. My kids are now 17 and 15, and have never had a flu. Thus, I'm all the study I need.

Those around me at work who cry like you do about needing a flu shot, are always sick. And I laugh hysterically at the defence of "yeah but it was gone in only a week thanks to the shot". LMAO

Some old, little know secrets of minimizing your chances of suffering from the flu. {You may still get it, but you may not even know it because it won't survive long enough to bring you down...} I have NEVER gotten a flu shot ever since they've been around. Years in which I followed these little tricks, I generally don't notice anything. When I ignore these tricks, I get nailed.

Increase Humidity in the air: Keep it as high as you can wherever you're at. Home AND work.

Increase salt* consumption: Just like pouring salt on a slug, this works to destroy these viruses inside you. Your body becomes caustic to them. CAUTION!!!: When using this tactic, you must use Iodide - FREE salt! Sea Salt is preferable over mined salt, though it will still work WITHOUT RAISING YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE.

Heavier than usual cleaning: Focus on the following items -

• Bathrooms (when washing hands, leave soap residue on the handles and faucet.);
• Kitchen (same as the bathroom, and use standard soapy water on counters.);
• Phones (cell and land, wherever hands AND mouths go. Use regular isopropyl alcohol. DO NOT USE BLEACH! It will destroy most finishes.);
• Remote Controls (same as phones.);
• Door Knobs (same as phones.);
• Light switches (same as phones.);
• Gaming Consoles (same as phones.);
• Laundry Control Knobs, (soap or alcohol.)

Science has proven that a naturally built up immunity is stronger and lasts longer the vaccines.

If you choose to get a vaccine, you accept any and all risks that ARE present with them.

If you choose not to get a vaccine, you must act accordingly to protect yourself from those around you who MAY have the virus.

Those who HAVE had the vaccine are NOT a threat to those who have not as the vaccine contains a weakened version of the virus.

Those who have NOT had the vaccine are NOT a threat to those who have as the vaccine PROTECTS THEM from the virus.

Lets all use a little common sense and we can avoid the mass hysteria generated by the media.....

Getting the flu shot is personal choice and I'd say a little different from some of the more serious conditions that you should be vaccinated against, though I would still recommend it; especially for the elderly and children or those that come in contact on regular basis with either.

Sometimes you will get mild symptoms after the shot and sometimes you won't. Sometimes you may also strike out and get the strain that wasn't covered. Eitherway it at least tries to stack the deck in your favor to prevent or limit the time and severity should you get the flu. Like some things there are people that just don't get sick very often or have a better immunity against it. I believe it has been shown certain people do have a gene that seems to help them avoid sickness more often, but don't quote me nor am I going to look it up at this time.

It is true eating good foods to get the right nutrients and stay healthy will have a postive effect in most cases since a healthy body can fight off invaders better, health 101. My only advice is besides doing what you can to stay healthy is ignore the nuts on tv and online that talk about conspiracy's and vaccinations blah blah blah. Talk with your doctor (a real doctor BTW) and do your own research then decide.

I've always gotten the flu shot for as long as I can remember and one time when I was in grade school I got what I'd call a little more than mild but not full blown case. Otherwise maybe a sniffle or two but for the most part no major issues with it or getting the flu itself. Seems to work for me but I do also try to do what I can to stay healthy, so maybe ist one not the other but whatever the case that is my experience.

As for the outbreak, I wonder how many have gotten it? In 47 states? Ok so what is the percentage of population? For the numbers they thru out 3700 hospitalized from it vs a population of 300 million + doesn't mean much if you ask me. Same for being in 47 states, really a non statistic it would seem. Just nice to see some numbers that would put it in better perspective or some comparisons. Sounds a little heavy on media hype again, but I could be wrong too.

It is time

The best way to keep from getting the flu is to eat well (no highly processed foods), and to take plenty of vitamin D3. The flu is almost unheard of in summer months when we get plenty of natural sunshine. Vitamin D3 boosts the immune system and helps to keep flu and other viruses/illnesses at bay.

I will NEVER get a flu shot! They are full of mercury (Thimerasol), which lowers ones immune system, and the flu going around is not even in this year's flu shot, so why are they pushing this shot if not for the money? People do not do their homework on these issues and then follow like sheep to the slaughter everything the government puts out. They are not there for our general health.

A very good website on the benefits of vitamin D3 on flu prevention is the Vitamin D Council. It is easily googled.

I'v only had the flu once, and that was back in September 1977, which I believe was a remnant of the swine flu going around in 1976/77. I was sicker than I've ever been, and it took me weeks to get my strength back so that I felt myself. I was 17, worked in a factory all day (7am- 5:30pm) and was not outside much, which I think lowered my immune system. Never been sick like that since, and never had the flu since. I am now 53, in great health, raised 8 kids, have 13 grandkids, and am rarely sick.

I do not trust the CDC, our government, or any pharmaceutical company with my health! It is my responsibility to make sure I eat properly (fast food is not properly!), take my supplements, get some exercise, and take care of myself. I am not on any medication of any kind. And the last thing I need is a dangerous cocktail of crap from a shot! I will never ever take a flu shot as long as I live!

"Let no good crisis go to waste."

Year after year, we succumb to the hype of a massive, deadly flu epidemic. Several years ago, when the H1N1 flu was predicted to dessimate third-world countries, I was stationed in the Middle East. Of the hundreds of third-country nationals working on the base, NOT ONE case of H1N1 occurred.

It is getting increasingly difficult to believe anything any part of our government says or backs. I will never get another flu vaccine.

Veteren, I have also travelled to many places, and the only place you get all this hype is the U.S.. If this were all true, you would figure there would be no one left in other countries.

The American need to consume medications has grown to extreme proportions. If you look at countries with the higest cancer rates, its all "western" countries, with of course the US high on the list. We can't stop ingesting chemicals.

hohum: Actually, it's at least 10 states that don't have it yet. The exact number is unknown. We know he visited 57 of them, but it was clear whether that was all of them.

Lisa - you are mostly right but your point about the thimerasol is a little dated as seem your total understanding of how vaccines work. First you can get many vaccines that are thimersol free or only have a trace amount. Second its not a hidden fact that the vaccine makers don't always get the right strain or the one that is most prevalent but the overall effect still helps your immune system and in most cases can help reduce the severity should you get the flu.

I echo similar thoughts about the FDA and our gov, keep at arms length, but also don't go as far into the conspiracy half of it either. If it was so bad most of us wouldn't be around as vaccines have been given out for sometime now. But yes most importantly people need to eat and live healthy and like I said above think for yourselves and do your homework when it comes to your health.

Your panic does not equal everyone's panic. I'm 47 years old, and have never had a flu. My kids are now 17 and 15, and have never had a flu. Thus, I'm all the study I need.

And if you have never been in a car accident, no reason to wear your seatbelt right?

If you don't see a difference bewteen a tin can with engine parts, and a biological system, sorry.

Veteran, how callous and misinformed you are. H1N1 killed nearly 300,000 people in Africa and Southeast Asia between 2009-2010.

TFNJ - if the US is the only country with all the "hype" then why is it the Pandemic Prepardness report shows outbreak reports, in order:

(Dec '12) Tiwain, Europe, Russia, Indonesia, Egypt, Mexico, Jordan, (Jan '13) West Bank, Yemen, Canada, Norway, Denmark, France, China, Belgium.

Yea, this is US hype mass hysteria. Forget the 3500+ hospitalizations and 20 deaths so far in this country alone...

@MmmMmmBeer

300,000 in two years is a drop in the bucket considering the size of the population in that region. 20 deaths so far this year from the flu is nothing compared to other causes of death in this country so far this year. Yes, this is ALL hype. The sooner you realize this, the happier you'll be.

Question for all. When did we as a nation decide that no one should die from anything?

Why don't we all stay home for about two weeks. Stay home with family, bake cookies, read some good books, relax, enjoy life. The flu would die out. How is it that we don't quarantine ourselves? Human beings are a stupid species.

Response to Jonathan Reid above: As he mentioned twenty deaths so far from this flu 'epidemic' which while sad for those families, is pale in comparison to the people who have died in automobile collisions since you have been reading my post.

That is 20 pediatric deaths from complications of influenza not total deaths, on any given year 3000 to 49000 from influenza. I take the vaccine and give myself a 66% chance of not getting it.

I'm not getting the flu shot because I'm not one one the most healthy people I'm not about to die .the reason is that in 2011 NBC and CNN had experts say that the flu mostly affects healthy people the worst. so unhealthy people fair better with the flu then unhealthy people.

At MIT they have a broad spectrum anti-viral in testing.. this means that it wouldn't be hit or miss with the flu shots... it has defeated all viral infections that the team has challenged it with, including H1N1. They have shown it effective in mice and human cell cultures... but they only have one grant from the NIH and it is only enough to keep one researcher working, so the team is sharing the time. No pharmas have stepped up.

I wrote an article which describes that they are doing and even explains the science. I've spoken with Dr. Rider, the researcher behind the work and I've studied the science in depth... This is historic work and needs national attention. (just remove the spaces)

blog readingthinkingandwriting . com/ ? p = 500

blog <dot> readingthinkingandwriting <dot> com <slash><?>p<equals>500

Or just go to blog.readingthinkingandwriting.com and click on "MIT and the Demise of the Viral Infection" in the list to the right.

Here's a CDC presentation of a "how to" to get the media involved in selling flu shots to the public.

Your thoughts are not your own. Enjoy these slides. You'll find all of the parts here.

http://www.iom.edu/~/media/Files/Activity%20Files/PublicHealth/MicrobialThreats/Nowak.pdf

Recipe for Fostering Public Interest and High Vaccine Demand

(1)1. Influenzaís arrival coincides with immunization ìseasonî (i.e., when people can take action)

2. Dominant strain and/or initial cases of disease are:" Associated with severe illness and/or outcomes"

Occur among people for whom influenza is not generally perceived to cause serious complications (e.g., children, healthy adults, healthy seniors)

" In cities and communities with significant media outlets (e.g., daily newspapers, major TV stations)ìRecipeî for Fostering

3. Medical experts and public health authorities publicly (e.g., via media) state concern and alarm (and predict dire outcomes)ñ and urge influenza vaccination.4. The combination of ë2í and ë3í result in:A. Significant media interest and attentionB. Framing of the flu season in terms that motivate behavior (e.g., as ìvery severe,î ìmore severe than last or past years,î ìdeadlyî)

Continued reports (e.g., from health officials and media) that influenza is causing severe illness and/or affecting lots of peopleñ helping foster the perception that many people are susceptible to a bad case of influenza.6. Visible/tangible examples of the seriousness of the illness (e.g., pictures of children, families of those affected coming forward) and people getting vaccinated (the first to motivate, the latter to reinforce)7. References to, and discussions, of pandemic influenzañalong with continued reference to the importance of vaccination.

Fostering demand, particularly among people who donít routinely receive an annual influenza vaccination, requires creating concern, anxiety, and worry. For example:" A perception or sense that many people are falling ill;" A perception or sense that many people are experiencing bad illness;" A perception or sense of vulnerability to contracting and experiencing bad illness.

Creating concern anxiety and worry. Thats right. Your government (CDC and it's business partners) would like to cause anxiety and worry.

Often arise when expert actions and behaviors donít seem to match or be consistent with policies and recommendations (e.g., healthcare providers not getting annual influenza vaccinations)

And here we see the problem identified and the actions taken on the public, medical doctors, nurses,etc, to remedy the problem of low sales. Behaviors don't match policy. Force the behavior. coerce the behavior. This is pure propaganda. The arrogant doctors don't even know what is hitting them. They think they are so smart that they don't believe they are being propagandized.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

I'd also like to know, of all those vaccinated, how many didn't get the flu? The answer is clearly zero. The vaccination is a government plot to inject one with drugs which will make them sick for the rest of their lives so big pharma can keep them on maintenance drugs which do nothing but keep them sick.

My god you all live in such a paranoid conspiracy filled existences. What a pathetic way to live.

What I want to know is WHY we were reading doomsday prophesies earlier in the week about the flu getting worse and how they were running low on vaccines?

Hey, PMoscatelli. We can talk PC'a and Flu shots lol

I'm with ya on where you are going. My boss, the owner, and his wife are both the hurry and take meds for every little thing. So of course they have to run out and get flu shots. Early this week they both showed up here ready to drop with a severe case of the flu. Both had to run to the doctor.

Jeff: Not paranoid at all, I don't get the flu vaccine. It is a stat that is never reported.

I was referring to the paranoid folks, not you. Unless you are one of them too that is? :)

Me paranoid?? I work in at a middle school with kids ages 12-14!!!

I'm paranoid, but not about flu's. (what's the plural of flu?) Fli?

I just don't buy into the fear and panic. Most who die from the flu are elderly, immuno-compromised, or have other flu related illness on top of the flu. If you are healthy, take care of yourself, rest when you get ill, eat right, etc...you're immune system is perfect enough to handle it. So you feel like crap for a few days, miss some work, whatever. Your immune system them becomes stronger as a result-without chemicals.

Never had a flu shot, never will...get the flu once every few years, usually mild, and I'm still alive, imagine that?

Just because you're paranoid, that doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

Thats what I mean Janine. Have to keep an eye open at all times.

Wait, why do you say that?? (LOL just kidding)

Jeff-1592116

My god you all live in such a paranoid conspiracy filled existences. What a pathetic way to live.

No, I live in a logical, realist existence. People die every day. Flu shots will not stop this. Flu shots, in fact, cause more problems than they fix. There is no reason for the government to continue to scare people to death over something that has been going on since the dawn of time. No one lives forever.

Alex Jones

There is NO such thing as chemtrails!! The white stuff you see coming from the ass end of a jet is EXHAUST!! It's been that way since jets started to fly! Just another paranoid conspiracy theory. RELAX!!

Yes, the chem trails were invented by & manufactured by drug makers who make us sick so we will buy their antidotes in order to heal. By the way I heard tin hats are on sale at Wal Mart for $14.99 this week!

Are you a fan or a critic there alan_static?

Think chem trails are a conspiracy theory? If I were you I'd think again!

Oh, wow, I just watched a video about that. I have watched the trails so many times and thought how it seems they should dissipate, but instead join to other trails in the sky. With the winds at those altitudes, they should quickly be blown away, I would think. Never thought about this before. Guess that's what people count on - ppl not thinking.

Ok, I'll bite. What is the purpose of the chem trails? Are they supposed to wipe out the human race? If so, they are not doing a very good job. According to a lot of folks, the world is overpopulated. Maybe the chem trails are releasing pheromones into the environment?That would explain some of the "baby booms".... hahahahaha!

That's the sound the engines make as they fly by.. FLUUU... ok sorry its late friday and I'm getting corny

Ditto.

Same here. The only real illness I got was bacterial bronchitis which nearly killed me, but since then i've been perfectly fine!

Your immune system may have been strengthened against it Russian-American girl.

I think so. :) I was suffering from it for a month, couldn't eat a single thing, had to take three different medications and lost a ton of weight (and let me tell you.. It's worse than the flu ever will be.. lol)

If you eat right .....you don't need a stupid shot. My immune system is a bad azz .....

Never had a flu shot, because I'm too smart to fall for that crap. It's an injection of the flu virus into your system - so there is a likelihood that people will come down with at least a mild case of it, but some people still get a full-blown flu sickness after getting the shot.

Eating right would cut down medical issues dramatically - but that's not what the US government and medical community want. Well people do not generate money for either entity.

Now I DO agree with that! And the gov doesn't want us to grow our own food either! They are buddies with Monsanto. Monsanto wants to sell us their seed that is resistant to their chemicals, like Round_up. All other seeds will not grow using their crap!

Ernie, I sure hope you don't plan on publishing that study anywhere. LOL

You are so wrong! I don't like shots, never did, and yes, they can hurt, but I don't avoid them for that reason. I often give blood (involves a needle, just like shot) and it hurts, I usually end up with a bruise and a sore arm for a day or two when I bend it, but giving blood saves lives and I like to help others. Getting the flu shot does nothing but put money in someone else's pocket and lowers my immune system. I do not like having mercury build up in my system!!! You can go to the National Vaccine Information Center to find out what is in the flu shot and other shots, and I promise you, it ain't pretty! If you want to be shot full of formaldehyde, mercury, animal dna (pig, chicken, monkey), and other questionable ingredients, then go for it, but I, on the other hand, I have better smarts than that.

That is what the media does best, play into people's fears, manipulate a dumbed-down populace who have never been taught to think for themselves. It is important to research all things, including what goes into our bodies, and since I know what is in the flu shot (and other immunizations) I will NEVER be innoculated against anything! There are also so many ways naturally to prevent disease that these shots are almost never needed.

Your point is well taken - I had the flu 3 or 4 years ago - developed symptoms on a Friday , by Saturday I was very ill. I called to get an appointment with my doctor - Tuesday was the earliest I could get in. By that time my doctor told me that the currently prescribed antivirals would no longer be effective. Doctors no longer seem disposed to prescribe the older antivirals though they work quite well and are very cheap. The older antivirals should be made available OTC or made available at the pharmacy counter. Pharmacists are more than adequately able to prescribe antiviral drugs.

If nothing else, have you ever listened to the possible side effects of Tamiflu - as with most drugs, you might be better off just living with the flu for a few days.

In 2008, the FDA reviewed reports of disturbing brain effects in more than 1,800 children who had taken Tamiflu., including convulsions, delirium and delusions.

There have been reported deaths of both children and adults.

A 2009 study reported half of children taking Tamiflu experience side effects such as nausea and nightmares. A 19-year old British girl who developed toxic epidermal necrolysis and blindness after taking Tamiflu last year.

A few years ago, Dr. Lawrence G. Roberts, wrote this::

"A few years ago, as I returned from Japan, I took Tamiflu on the plane as I arrived into SFO. I thought my symptoms felt like the flu and I (at that time) carried it. As I drove home, I was observed drifting off the road from time to time, but all I noticed was I suddenly was over too far and I corrected. Then at the exit, which was a slow right turn, I blanked out just into the turn and went straight into a tree.

They say at the first sign of the flu (which would be sore throat, runny nose, sneezing, etc.) to go to your doctor and get Tamiflu.

Tamiflu, when and if it works can sometimes lessen the severity.

lessen the severity.... always looking for a cop out....

Jeff who made you the expert in anything? Go troll your Xbox.

Had the flu 3 times in 27 years. I will gladly fight through 4 days of being sick and develope a stronger, more efficient natural immunity to the virus than get a stupid shot to trick my body. Before you prove you're a fool by replying, I am certain I know more about vaccines and viruses than you could hope to learn in a decade, 3 degrees in bio/medical related engineering speak for themselves.

Uh oh, someone is tooting his own horn.... toot toot!!

What a douche

They're injecting the flu virus in you - of course you're likely to get sick. They say there is a chance you may get a mild case of it or you may even come down with the flu. They are GIVING you the flu - but, yes, they get money from the shot, then you can go to the doctor and get more medicine, which gives the medical community and drug companies more money.

The idea is that your body will develop immunity to what they're injecting in you. In my case, I just got sicker than a dog. The times I didn't get a flu shot were always my best seasons so therefore I never get one.

Phucking Hogwash bullshi-t

Crackpot eh? Well it's good to see that your ignorance at work, it's refreshing.

Aw shucks - you must be right. I'm sure if you once knew someone who knew someone who read about a person in some other state who got a flu shot and then got the flu, the flu shot must not work at all. That is some smart thinkin!

Sorry couldn't read anything you wrote there, it just came off as blah, blah, blah, blah, blah I'm not able to really sit down to use some logic and think things through. Just keep your blindfold on, that's the way to go.

Nice to see the crackpots hard at work in the comments section! Go, conspiracy theorists, go!

They need to excuse their laziness or fear of getting shots. :)

Actually it's a damn gubermint conspircy. The FLU Shot is just a excuse so theys can injects ya with dem chemicals that make ya gay and vote democrat. The only way to keep from gettin sic is ta scare the FLU away by shootin guns 10 minutes a day right before bed!

bigshotrob - ignorance of .... what exactly? there are a ton of conspiracy theories in the comment section. what exactly is the op ignorant of?

oops

Nexus: Thanks, you just made me laugh at the end of a day filled with stupidity.

I see 4 stupid folks thought your comment was funny. I think it's tasteless but typical.

I can guarantee none of those (6 people now) think this is at all funny.

Yet jeff got no votes at all..... coincidence?

making everything a gun joke is so 2012. nobody is going to ban guns. only extremists are talking about banning guns. us rational folks are talking about REGULATION. if you can't comprehend the difference between banning and regulating the joke is on you.

I just made it nine!

VP Foot-in-the-Mouth Biden needs to hold a hearing to discover why people get the flu. Then outlaw sneezing, handshaking, coughing, etc. to stop the epidemic.

No, they won't.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!!

Its called making money. Only problem is they are making money on the bet that you will be afraid enough to get THE SHOT. You get THE SHOT and someone somewhere gets money for it. Then there is the other problem. What is in THE SHOT? Don't ask the Government whats in THE SHOT because they are making sure you get THE SHOT. I'd rather die than get than get THE SHOT! So to all you out there who want me to have THE SHOT? I think we live in two different worlds.

unless they start making free house calls with the flu shots, im not jumping up to go get one lol

So when you get the flu, dont go near any kids because it really messes with them . And they didnt ask for it

Never had a flu shot. Never had a flu except the time I went to Tahoe without a sweater. What say you now mommy dearest?

Why do you come to their site if you hate them so much? :)

so go on over to foxnews where they would have you believe that the black panthers and acorn members are stalking the poll booths and threatening white voters lol talk about fear mongering.

make up your mind. your inaccuracies hurt people!!

Back up your statement. :)

Because the flu isn't one virus and the early flu vaccine is their early best-guess what virus MAY be prevalent.

Because the shots are only 60% effective, and NOT for all strains...therefore if the prevalent strain is not in the shot, it doesn't matter. It's a chemical injection crap shoot. Just stay healthy, you'll be fine.

Because the so called flu vaccine,they have out there, is not congruent with the Flu strain people are getting.

By the way this so called Flu is not all flu it's a whole host of bacterial and viral infections out there,and they are Nasty!

Eileen? You're right on the Money!

Jeff: Under your logic, you will give me all your money if I provide a 62% guarantee that you'll get it back? Stop drinking the kool-aid, you'll live longer...and healthier.

ohhhhhh....they just don't offer all that information when you get the da_n shot!!!!! I see now!

Well where is the da_n shot for this strain!!!!!!