"It's extremely important to make sure we're monitoring obesity in this low-income group,"
It's much more important that we encourage healthy eating habits.
I have some friends that get EBT assistance, and I think it's outrageous that they can (and do) spend the taxpayer funds to buy JUNK FOOD, like unhealthy snacks and sodas and cookies - and typically they don't care about the price because 'it's not their money'.
People on WIC can only buy certain types of healthy food, so the government should require that EBT only be used for HEALTHY foods as well.
I wonder how many of the 47 million people getting 'free food' under Obama voted for him because 'Romney was going to take away my food stamps' (actual statement I heard). Since Obama won by only about 4 million of the 126 million votes cast, it only took a small percentage of them to swing the election. It may have been 'smart politics' to make people dependent on the government, but it's a disaster for the Country because of the skyrocketing Debt we're accumulating.
Please consider that healthy foods are less accessible in lower income areas. Especially if transportation is an issue, it's easier to get a loaf of bread, peanut butter, jelly and a bag of chips from the corner store rather than go all the way to the grocery store or the Farmer's market while handling the kids and going to work everyday (despite what the media wants you to think, lower income people work the longest hours among the population doing more strenuous work as "lower level work" yields a "lower level income"
Well said Robin and often very true. Unfortunately the stereotype that has been pushed regarding low income families is very distorted and only shows the image of the "welfare queens". this makes it easier for people who want to cut people off at the knees feel less guilty because they don't see the truly needy and deserving of assistance.
Just like Roy Wilson using the rhetoric regarding Romney's loss and "skyrocketing" food stamp spending. There is absolutely no consideration given to how people who NEVER before needed help ended up on the short end of the stick needing assistance. The reason that EBT spending is up is because more people are making a lot less than they used to. If people like Roy Wilson really wanted to solve the problem, he would be pushing his party of NO to try to create decent paying jobs rather trying to punish the under paid or under employed. Or better yet, their never ending voting to (31 times) to repeal Obamacare. And remiond me how many anti-choice laws they passed in the last 2-3 years??? I seriously question how the GOP which is supposed to be the party of "Christ"ians can be soooo un-christ like. Just think of when Christ fed all those people with one loaf of bread, the current GOP would have been there pointing out people that they didn't feel deserved bread because they didn't work enough or weren't faithful enough to the church. Christian today = Ability the judge ALL.
Roy, grow a brain, the fact that we support our own is not Bankrupting the country. What is paid out in Welfare or WIC is peanuts. Why is it that when we support overseas people gripe, I gripe. when we support our own people, people gripe, I don't gripe. No body wants to see a starving child, but to help the child you must help the parent or you inherit a bigger burdon, a parentless child. Even if you help a parentless child people gripe. Some people only need temperary help to get over a hump and they are greatful that our Government was there to help them. You have many things to look at, not everybody is as smart as the next person. Not everybody can comprehend the complexities of society. Do you realize that some people can only handle a simple job like a dishwasher in a resturant and that is a far as they will rise. By Government standards of pay they are authorized to have x amount of food stamps to maintain a level of life? I have no problem with helping a fellow American. The grippers gripe about them and they will probably gripe about me for supporting this idea. I have seen this country go from a Nation of problem solvers to nothing but grippers. Probaably because they don't think they have the answers anymore. I still beleive in JFK words,"Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country." I firmly believe that the Stock Market is an unneccessary Evil this country doesn't need.
Probably a good part of that is the increase in breastfeeding education through WIC (my sister used it with her first, about 10 years ago). In general, nursing babies stop eating when they're full, while bottle-fed babies are encouraged to finish what they're given. That influences future eating habits.
As for the food stamp/obesity issue, I fully support:
Reworking what is allowed to be purchased.
Remove subsidies from corn (high fructose corn syrup), and transfer those subsidies to veggies. If junk is more expensive and heathly stuff is less expensive, there will be at least a bit of a shift in what people with a limited budget will buy.
"decently paid?" Unfortunately the solution for that is to create "overpaid" jobs...since lacking any education only allows you to do basic jobs. It wouldn't be fair for gas station clerks to make as much as computer programmers.
How about the parents of these kids? Most often they're fat slobs themselves. This crap about low income people being forced into "junk food" is just another excuse for laziness. I live in a small town, our "farmers market" is way cheaper than processed food, but it's not as easy to cook. Americans like "easy" hard is to hard. Most of "the poor" don't even know what "poor is". Poor in America is cable TV, AC, 2 cars, and all kinds of resources, including free food, medical care and cash benefits. You want to see what poor truly is? then go to Mexico City or Cairo then you'll know what poor really is. Poor is burying your food so it doesn't spoil, pumping water from a hand levered well, preparing food over coal, wood or dung. They would consider America's poor to be "upper middle class". Of course I'm politically incorrect, so let the haters begin.
Roy Wilson is right about encouraging healthy eating habits. I don't agree with everything Roy said, but I do like to give credit where credit is due. It is also important to monitor obesity rates because that is the 'measuring stick' to be sure that the approaches we are using are working. WIC is a really good program, and EBT needs to be administered in a similar way. And yes, we need to BE SURE that healthy food is accessible to the lower income areas.
From what I have seen of some people buy chips, sodas, cookies and cakes with food stamp cards, it is no wonder they cannot afford veggies and lean meats.
I could spend $5 on cheap packaged junk food and get 3-5 meals. Or I could spend $5 on fresh fruit and veg and get a couple apples that taste like cardboard and make 1 meal.
Yeah, smug, self-satisfied jerks always think they do so much better living on little money than the poor. When I read posts like that, part of me wouldn't wish poverty on anyone, but part of me would really like to see them in a position where they would have to TRY IT!
BS.. I cook from scratch for a family of 10... I do it on less then $200 a week- I coupon and look for sales and I buy things that match up in other words pre plan your meals!
Today we had (cereal,toast, oranges & milk for breakfast, left over Ham, potato's, green bean casserole for lunch then we had turkey ala king over homemade bread for dinner using christmas eve left overs.. and ate cherry pie for desert (I reserved filling for topping homemade ice cream this week to) snacks included apples n sale .69lb and popcorn mix from xmas tin.
Tomarrow I will make 15 bean soup with ham bone and bits left over (packet of 15 bean mix costed me $2.09 I will be adding carrots .49LB and green beans cuz I got the green beans .79 LB (Green produce bag almost filled costed under $2 made dinnerx2 for 12) oh and tomatoes I grew an canned myself.
we also have 2 allergic to dairy, we never buy koolaid only real juice, milk, water served here and most all baked treats are baked here not in a bag with GMO so yes we eat healthy to! I have PPCM (heart problem moms sometimes get)
Yeah, smug, self-satisfied jerks always think they do so much better living on little money than the poor. When I read posts like that, part of me wouldn't wish poverty on anyone, but part of me would really like to see them in a position where they would have to TRY IT!
Firm believer in *what comes around goes around*.
It takes a little work..
maybe thats the problem.
All it takes is a little work to use correct spelling & grammar, too.
Maybe that's the problem w/ some of these comments.
I seriously am daily astonished at how many supposedly adult posters can't spell 2nd & 3rd grade words, know where to place a comma, semi-colon, apostrophe, & period, or figure out a simple possessive.
Or master the intricacies of birth control so that they don't end up w/ a family of 10 to feed in what appears to be an incredibly UN-nutritious fashion, for that matter. A entire week's worth of carbs in a single day, really?
Maybe it's just me, but when I go to the grocery store I see lots of cheap food. If you are not against cooking your own food there would be no problem purchasing rice, peanut butter, beans, or many other high calorie foods.
I think part of the issue is that people who are legitimately impoverished (not just lazy) may not have time to sit at home and cook a meal. A couple loaves of bread at $5 and a couple jars of peanut butter at $5 would contain many more calories and nutritional value than a couple fast food meals at $10 or several bags of chips from the corner store. The same goes for rice and beans and some stores even have cheap ground meat.
We all don't pay the same prices for food as prices vary from state to state and city to town. Not everybody knows how to cook anymore. You can make more from scratch than you can from kits and mixes. People don't even know what a Bread Board, Rolling Pin, or cookie cutter is anymore. For a lot of people opening a can of soup, dumping it in a Bowl and putting it in a Microwave is cooking. Tech is a great thing but you loose your true Survival Skills.
cooking from scratch can be cheaper but can also be very time consuming. Rice from the bag takes me 25 minutes to cook. dried beans need to soak overnight and when I cook dried beans it takes about 2 hours.-if you poor, you may not have 2 pots cook beans and other items.
as for time-most poor do actually work-long hours. so now we need time to shop, a way to carry these items home (bulk beans and rice is where the savings are), time to cook after a long day-and what about some time to spend with the kids.
Oh, and the less expensive peanut butter is loaded with sugar
Doggiemom you're right. The rest of these losers are excuse makers for the "people" that are bleeding our country of every last cent with out putting anything in. If one watches sales, and makes an effort fresh food and staples (dry beans, rice and flour) are the best, most yielding buys. The real problem is these leeches are too f'ing lazy to make the effort to follow any other recipe besides "bring water to a boil and add contents of box"; and if we're going to say it's too time consuming, then get the kids to help, by teaching them how to spend 2 minutes adding water to beans to soak overnight, so they can be cooked into something in an hour or so the next day. Or to combine 2 cups of water with one cup of rice, bring to a boil (5-7 minutes max) reduce heat to simmer, cover. Not to mention this only really has to be done every three days, if there's a shred of common sense and a fridge in the house.
Who gives a damn about someone using correct grammar or not... F.U. Do you know what that means or should I spell it out for you. Is this a contest or a message board. Does the person with correct spelling move on to the championship round an a chance at a million dollars ?????, Didnt think so, Ima gona pell like chit till da day I dye.....
Hey PB I hope you're not talking to me, S_T was the one calling people out on the grammar deal, I was just holding up a mirror. If it was to me then fuch yew too.
Peple like scar turn into the grammer nazi ritual when they have nothing real to say.
I work numbers for a living. Ive never claimed to be a writer..however my best friend is an editor and she does paper corrections for teacher, lawyers, doctors so obviously many people dont have the best writing skill set- I did go to public school maybe thats it!
As for my family of 10- We planned to have our big family- We have no life line no mommy or daddy saves or bails us out, we have friends that are as good as family to us. We have a 3500 sq ft home with land outside of the city, a 25ft pool the kids have a 13ft enclosed trampoline and a giant playset. My kids have plenty of personal items, they have nice clothes they dont want for anything. We even have college funds set up and 1 going next year! We take care of ours better then people we grew up with take care of 1! I should be ashamed of what?
Its not luck.. its because we did the planning and continue the work to maintain our lifestyle.
I grew up in chicago public housing. I AM THE CHILD OF A WELFARE MOM. I know poor- I know neglect- I know alcholic parents- I know drug dealers- My dad is one! My husband grew up in the system was adopted by not so nice people. So dont sing a song of BS.. your either singing yourself in excuse cuz you live it or YOU'VE NO CLUE as to the TRUTH in the tune!
We worked really hard to change the cycle our life was heading into! EVERYSINGLE girlfriend I grew up with in My neighboorhood is poor- on welfare some work enough to buy clothes and afford the clubs, some under the table to, some sell benefits for the same, many drive nice cars get cash from baby daddys but dont tell public aid cuz the guys are drug dealers nobody can prove the money comes in! You know who mostly works in the hood? The mexicans, they are the hardest working people in the hood and they receive the least benefits but yes they get em even illegals get them! I dare you to prove me wrong.. pull census records (Ive worked for them) Drive by a daily pay job placement center at 5am in chicago I promise you for every other race sitting to be sent for work you will see 3 to 1 (I worked out of ready man in chicago for over 1 year during and following my 1st pregnancy 5am-6pm sometimes later to make $50 in the mid 90's and I got paid $1 more and hour for speaking english)
You dont believe me? I really dont care.. I believe in karma to and I know I live my life right! Im far from cold- I care very much for these children But I know first hand giving them some FREE OBAMA CARROTS ISNT the HELP they need!
It makes people mad to hear these things because it makes people realize life isnt everything they thought. Its a nicer story to believe the childs name you pulled off the tree belongs to a mom whos husband died, has no family and one of her 3 kids is autistic.. Rather then knowing the 23 yr HS drop out has 3 kids 2 baby daddys- 1 is a drug dealer, she sleeps with random "hot" guys in her free apartment with no regard t the harm it could bring her kids, she buys mac n cheese an hot dogs and ramin soup for the kids- pop for herself koolaid for the kids and sells the rest of her benefits to buy things like her Newports... and weed.. On the weekend she dumps her kids off on her momma who still has kids at home an also is on welfare.. she goes clubbing and if were lucky baby #4's Daddy#3 sticks around and happens to have a real job but thats doubtful cuz a decent guy slums it but they dont stay- they are your free drinks at the club nothing more... but hopeful hodrats still try to rope em in cuz its like winning the lotto getting kncked up by a rich kid- in reality is just a middle class child but to the hodrat thats rich!
Thats the reality- Im not pulling it outta my rear this is the real deal ive seen it more times then ive seen it not happen that way! The person who says otherwise either 1 never lived in the hood or is pissy cuz Im making them read what a looser there actions are! I honestly only know 2 other people from my housing project that is now middle class or above. The hood is like quick sand and the GOV keeps making you sink deeper an deeper in- they give these people no real tools to rise above. Are there programs? yes but so very limited helping only handfuls at a time- most give just enough knowledge to get a low job and it isnt long before the kid realizes they can make more scamming aid and hence the cycle continues..
In the program I was in, out of 27 17-24yr olds. I was the only one to get into a college following, 2 girls dropped out early because of pregnancy and only 10 obtained work making an average of $8 hr, 4 that I know of went to jail because several only joined the program after a judge allowed it after a public defender pushed for it in attempt to avoid jail. The rest were offered to be placed on the list to try again!
But see all the GOV will show you is people like me and the the other 10 and they wont say I was the only college bound... they will word it like "Our programs offer these students a chance to change there life.. some go onto further education while other's take advantage of our work program" Job placement is within companies that fund the program so they can obtain new fresh trained workers willing to except less!
Political BS!! thats all it is! Its the non for profit programs that actually help anybody get out not the GOV!
"Scar_tissue" you need to wake up... instead of downing people for bring to light or trying to find solutions for a bad reality!
p:s Grammer check me.. I didnt correct nothin, Sooo have a blast!
oh ya Scar: wtf do you eat for the holidays? didnt think I had to mention we were eatting left overs from traditional American christmas dinner not typical... or that I was showing how one could build meals off meals.. your so smart.. musta missed that huh?
FYI Not 1 of my familiy members is over weight or under. I myself am a size 7 not perfect but certainly not a carb diet!
Really scar_tissue? Way to go with the correct grammar.
An adverb can be placed either before or after the word it is modifying.
You dont believe me? I really dont care..
I can't even make sense of half of what you're saying, let alone have the room for suspending belief. That's what happens when a comment is poorly presented & riddled with so many errors that the reader can't follow it.
FREE OBAMA CARROTS
LMFAO
I reckon those must be even more special than free Obama phones, seeing as they're in all-caps.
Grammer check me.. I didnt correct nothin, Sooo have a blast!
Meh. I only get paid to correct students' work, not that of random strangers online.
ihold8stars, I agree that if you have the time to shop for bargains, clip coupons and cook from scratch (AND have the knowledge about how to do all of this), it is possible to eat cheaply. One of MY big gripes is that schools have stopped teaching "home economics" which would help folks do this. That having been said, if you are a single parent working 2 jobs of 8 hours each just to keep a roof over head with luxuries such as heat, water and power, it doesn't leave a lot of time to do all that even IF you know how.
yeah - it's called starvation. First you can only afford cheap garbage food; so the kids are obese. Next, the money runs out and you can't buy ANY food!
People eat more because the body is craving nutrition that is not in the food. Chemicals in the ground and those used for pesticides, not to mention acid rain strip nutrition from the food. People that are poor or on food stamps certainly can not afford organic food, even when doctor ordered due to food intolerances and allergies.
I think some people are realizing that you are healthier eating very little rather than to eat food with no nutritional value.
Yes, b/c poor=stupid, & they were just too stupid to *realize* that b4?
You are not not NOT *healthier eating very little*.
Eating very little deprives the body of essential vitamins & nutrients, making ppl more susceptible to both illness in general & conditions specifically related to malnutrition.
Ppl are also more susceptible to accidents & poor schl/work performance from being too fatigued to concentrate. The body requires fuel to function efficiently.
The new results can't prove what's behind the progress, Blanck told Reuters Health - but two possible contributors are higher rates of breastfeeding and rising awareness of the importance of physical activity even for very young kids.
Equally ridiculous *reasons*; just admit they don't know the answer & quit guessing.
Virtually entire generations were bottle-fed b/c that was considered healthier than breastfeeding in the latter 2/3 of the 20th century, yet we always hear adults insisting if there were 2 fat kids in their classrms back in the day, that was a lot.
As an educator, I've seen that anecdotal evidence really hasn't changed much. The elementary schls at which I taught were not crammed full of obese kids waddling down the halls. The occasional *chubby* (a bit overweight, not obese) kid was about it. They'd get slimmed down via a growth spurt sooner or later.
After 30 yrs of teaching, a grand total of one obese 5th grader & one obese 2nd grader (both of whom who were that way due to chronic disease, not overeating) springs to mind. It's when kids hit puberty that some begin gaining a lot of weight very quickly.
*Rising awareness of the importance of physical activity* is absurd. There isn't a parent of a fat kid on the planet who isn't *aware* their kid should move to burn calories.
that was my first reaction as well. "hey, they're finally just starving the tots!" sadly, the data was from clinical kids and that means most likely medicaid, which means they also probably get reasonable portions of food stamps. My bet is that portions are declining in the families since food stamps don't follow the price spikes.
if you wanna see grim, check out the neighborhoods that rely more heavily on food pantries and check out the dust on the shelves. the situation for so many is dire. but hey, anything to keep suburban white folks feeling superior is worth the sacrifice!
I agree with this. My Family of 3 - Myself husband and one kid were on food stamps for 3 months while we were out of work a couple of years ago. We received 258.00 per month to feed us 3. 86 bucks each.
That is a hard budget for food to buy healthy. Luckily I garden so we had fruits and veggies. My husband and I ate lots of beans and peanut butter sandwiches so we could get as much healthy food as we can.
I guess I agree that they just do not have enough food healthy or not.
I owned both my cars which counted as disposable income.. I could have sold one.. According to the state of Michigan. They also stated that their funds were running out.. We made due I found work again. We were only on the "system for 3 months. Well I had to pay back 3 weeks of benefits when I started working again So 2 months.. I would much rather work than deal with the system ever again
I do agree that there are people gaming the system, but the unfortunate thing is that people like Kjosee are lumped into the stereotype of the fraudsters. So rather than try to curtail the fraud, waste and abuse by investigating and prosecuting, it's easier just to cut all benefits and throw the baby out with the bath water. It gets easier to do that so long as the face of the truly needy (laid off, jobless, underemployed, previously white middle class Americans) is hidden from view.
ok so a little social experiment: I did some research... It wasnt hard to figure out how to scam the system- of course I did not file any copies- I only went through the motions to see what was available and how one could work at getting it.
Heres what I can get and how:
If I stop reporting My non w2 earnings from tax preperations, selling baked goods and jewelry sales all which I can make pretty untraceable (I do do taxes for a living) If My husband uses our cabin in WI address and we claim to have seperated and we simply download and file our own child support provision which will give me about $1300 a month for 8 kids (man id get screwed better keep him around lol)
I would qualify for $1025 in food benefits each month.
If I tell my appointed caseworker my husbands abusive I would be excluded from filing for child support and could claim I received no support. I would then receive $1,352
I qualify for food pantry I can go 1x a month to each unique provider- there are 3 in my area. For kicks i called ne and asked what I could exected to receive..
apparently because I have a large family I would receive 10 lbs of a meat (whatevers on hand I guess) 2 dozen eggs and 2 gallons of milk and about 2 boxes of pantry foods. I was told if I come on a thursday I could help myself to bakery items that are set out. I could also do this weekly just not the boxed foods/meats thats only 1x a month.
I tried calling the other 2 places they said come in they would take care of me im curious but id feel aweful I cant do that. s im going to guess they might be similar- though one said I could "shop" as if I would get options what I get where the other places is pre boxed.
So lets see over $1000 plus 6 boxes of pantry food plus least 10 lbs of meat (maybe 30 if all 3 pantries offer the same amount) free baked goods weekly.. WOW I dont even break $900 a month with a holiday in it on groceries now!
with couponing I could probly feed a family of 6 along side my own on those benefit!
I also qualify for Lheap (they pay all or a large portion of utility bills)
I also qualify for a free cell phone
Apparently here in IL ur section 8 list is huge and only opens a few times a year- it was closed but i do qualify for the list from what ive read.
If I say he pays support I can still receive medical/dental which would cover what his INS does not
If I claim hes a bad guy and I dont get support.. I get full medical and dental plus free medication
In IL I dont have to work cause I have a child under the age of 6 at home so I could receive cash benefits without a clock counting and because one of my kids has a learning problem I could file an exemption which excludes me from ever having to work!!!
Meaning I have no time limit as to being on public aid receiving cash benefits!
It says amounts would be determined at my appointment so im of course not going to get the exact cash amount but if its anything like the food portion MAN!
I can however enroll in college on the states bill and I also qualify for childcare.. and the site states if I work I would be rewarded they will only take away $1 from my benefits for every $4 I earn.
My kids would also qualify for financial aid for college- free lunch n breakfast- free school fees ( paid over $1000 this year!)
once I would receive the medical card
I can sign up for W.I.C( I have a child under 5)
I can visit the clothing closet 1x a week pick out 25 items
I can eat at soup kitchen 3x a day with kids ( WOW now that would stretch the EBT) I also volunteer at our soup kitchen so I know whats prepared and its pretty decent food I always assumed the visitors were homeless I never realised they could be getting benefits aswell.. semi shocked
I also can get medical rides My hospital confirmed all I need is medical card.
I stopped there.. Now im sure many will say well thats in IL....
SO I repeated this using a upper WI addy- pretty much the same results less food pantries there though. however I was told if I approved for emergency housing i could receive a check in as little as 10 days of finding an approved rental.
If I didnt think I was to cute for prison I might go through the process and video it all!
Heartland25 thats very true... I catch crap for having a large family up until they learn I dont get benefits!
I and My husband have worked most of our adult life. If something happen and we did need help- I can only imagine the backlash we would get.. its sad because those services should be for people like me who have worked hard lived right and need a hand up but instead they give so many hand outs when they come across a middle class family in the begining of crisis they make it impossible to get help- they asked assets online form here I guessed they would add that as income so didnt add that on form I filled cuz I know I could hide it.
( I only did a form nothing was filed pure test.... no panty wadders please)
Dress down- play dumb and greatful- look hungry and lie. I guess thats the asnwer to getting benefits.
in IL a family of 3 receive $526 plus all the above i mentioned
and you wouldnt loose benefits until you surpass $2,069 a month look up the "Link Calculator" in msn search
They ask about assest an vehicles here to but they dont have man power to look for it..
of course most hard working Americans falling on hard times are by nature greatful and willing up the truth.. but see thats not what they are use to hearing...
You get way more benefits if you have nothing- if your not working they require no monthly reporting...
I bet its the same by you probly even less man power to catch scammers because the poverty is so great in your state.
I do not receive any assistance and I file a schdule C
I- USED - A- ONLINE- FREE- APPLICATION- TOOL- TO- SEE- HOW - EASY- ONE - COULD- SCAM- THE - SYSTEM.
Not that I did...
We reported all earnings. If somebody was scamming I dont think they would report it on a public forum.
Racist pig is what you are - Just because I have a big family doesnt mean I live any different then a person with 1 or 2 children! My children attend our public schools that My property taxes pay for. In addition I pay all school fee's. I pay for the school lunch when My children choose to eat at school.
Let me guess you think I make our clothes to?
You watch to much TV...
You have nothing important to say that doesnt first involve criticizing another. Maybe My grammer sucks.. But your personality sucks. Your a bitter hopeful blogger that doesnt realize a comment board isnt Journalism.
I know. Its sad how these programs are structured. They punish the people who are trying to care for themself while rewarding those who have often never provided for themself.
I believe We the people need to push for reconstruction of the welfare system because it is broken.
I was reading the PA website for IL and they also have a limit on how long you can receive benefits- except they make exceptions that stop the clock. Obviously with the amount of people constantly on public aid, many managed to avoid the time restrictions.
Did you file a complaint? You can ask for a complaint form from your local office and describe what you felt is wrong with the system. Its takes alot of complaints to make changes- yours might help.
Well, duh! When you can't afford food, you can't possibly get fat! That's logical. It's the people who have plenty of money to buy food that eat too much and don't get enough exercise. Don't dis food stamps if you still have a job and can afford groceries. There are lots of qualified people out there who can't get a job because of the Republicans' platform and they have to eat somehow.
What a moron!!!!!!! Odumbo and the Democraps are the reason there are no jobs! Wake up and pull your head put. Odumbo had done nothing but destroy jobs and the economy since he got into office. The only reason he got re elected was because of useful idiots like you and the buying of votes. Lets see he did the dream act to get the illegals and mexican vote, gave phones and free money for the minority and welfare votes and opened the military and promised gay marriage for the gay vote!!!!!!!! Not one thing has been done under him or any dem for job creation though, just more spending and welfare!!!!!!!!!
now you're just being stupid. offshoring has been a bipartisan gig, and it comes at the command of corporate America and Wall Street. seriously, those stupid letters mean nothing when it comes to this stuff. you guys need to grow up faster, because you're the ones holding everyone else back.
@garrie, there is a documentary called ETHOS, Narriated by Woody Harrelson, you need to see this, in fact a lot of you need to see this. It is a wake up call, if you have a Netfliks Acct, I saw it there. It's going to answer a lot of questions and complaints people have been spouting off about. There is even a breif sceen wher GWB stated he didn't believe Al Qaeda was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. That set me back 10 feet. Befroe you Troll on Obama you better wake up and start seeing what is going on. I have begun to rethink GWB some but have not even considered changing my mind on Cheney. You can keep your head up your butt til the cows come home and I don't buy that as an excuse for not knowing or being aware of anything. You need to know who your real enamy is. Your real enamy is not the President, but right here on your shores. What are you going to do about them?
I suspect that Monsanto and the rest of the GMO makers are mad because people are starting to realize they are making us fat and unhealthy and the companies have taken to the tv telling everyone how WONDERFUL they are. GMO Cookies yum yum!! If you get the media to write that obesity is going down then no one will think GMO foods are bad for us. Same as they paid them to print there was no difference between organic and regular fruits and vegetables. DUH... Its a scam.......the media is not our friend when corporations are paying big bucks.
i understand that conspiracism is attractive when everyone's lying, but maybe try sticking to the simplest explanation first instead of going out of your way for exotic reasons.
Peace of Mind, Actually Organics do have a better taste, if you can ward off the expense.
As for companies like GMO, they know what the result of a product is before they put it on the market. CEOs look at things this way anymore, How much can they make before anybody catches on, minus what the fine can be when caught, equals how much money they stand to keep clear. To them it is straight simple Quick Profit as to long term investment. It's all about money to them and they don't give a crap about the results to you, Obeasity, Brain Damage, Health or your life.
We need to know who the evil doers are and boycott them into Submission or Oblivian.
6dogs--I agree with you. Just follow the money---very interesting!
BTW, I have begun to boycot certain things--and I grow as much of my own fruits n vegies as I can, and vote with my wallet whenever possible (made in USA first, Fair Trade or countries where people are paid a decent wage second, and China etc only when absolutely a necessity--ex--if my car needs a part only made in China)
hell, they'd end poverty overnight if they had to live months on what's left of the safety net. funny how everyone who yaps about it are the last ones to want it themselves.
I really like it when one of these big wigs says he is going to live in poverty for a week to see what these people are going through to determin if they are getting enough. A week, with a pocket full of credit cards and cash and a car probably supplied for him. How does he factor that in. I'm willing to bet that the neoghborhood he lives in doesn't have a Bus Stop.
African kids are too thin because of not enough food, while American kids are too fat because of too much food. I'm sure both sides are feeling each other's pain equally.
Are we supposed to thank Michellle for her newly developed lunch time cuisine on our nickle? Which most kids are throwing into the trash cans? I grew up poor, with no help at all from the government! We all ate 3 meals a day with no assistance from feeding stations or food stamps. My mom made my lunch, such as it was. Can these parents no longer throw together a peanut butter sandwich?
Why did they outlaw P&J sandwich is schools? I used to bring mine all the time,, couldnt afford the lunch at school myself.. 35c a day. wow, I wonder what It cost now! I weighed 95 lbs in the 12th grade. I ate good at home, but I worked mine off. garden.. mowing.. and no we didnt get food stamps,, we worked...
Yeah, I agree with you there.. I grew up the same way as you did.. I made my lunches for myself and my brother and sister.... and it was in a brown paper sack.. OH sometimes, I would get a can of beenie weenies. that was luxury.. those was the good ole days.. : )
Genetic modified wheat and peanut butter! A balanced diet fit for learning!
That is, unless the scientists in Australia are proven correct, and the siRNAs used in experiments today make their way into humans and affect the same genetic functions in us as they do in the plants.
the new thing is the PB and J is racist!!!!!!!!! Just ask any good democrat and lib and they will tell you about that. That is the reason the PB and J is not allowed to be given out in school for lunches any more.
Garrie, spouting lies and ignorance. Peanut butter is not allowed in schools because of peanut allergies. Typical Republican and Fox watcher. Spread lies constantly.
WOW! Garrie is one of those people that is almost on the tipping point of losing his mind. I sincerely hope he does not have any assault weapons at his disposal. His posts could be used to test sanity for issuing gun permits.
40 years ago you might find one or two kids in class overweight. Somehow they got the nickname "Tubby" Now if you go to a school function, a good percentage could stand to lose a few pounds.
Teenagers in sports are starving with the new federal lunch food guidelines. They need the calories and are not getting them. So now they bring the granola bars or junk food from home to supplement the lunches with too few calories. Obesity is just not junk food, its exercise which kids don't get anymore in many places in fear of getting shot at for being just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Show me a community which is safe and kids are outside playing. Give me a community where there is violence and kids go straight to school and back not to get out again until the next day to do it all over again. And for you people knocking those on food stamps, may you never see the person staring back at you in your mirror be unemployed or just can't find work because they were told to go to college and get a degree. No college degree guarantees you a job. Job skills that are useful and are needed for open positions, however will pay your rent and buy groceries. Don't always believe college is the key out of poverty or the key to success. Nothing could be further from the truth other than those liar student loans they sell you.
gee, maybe its due to the parents not having enough money to pay for food??? either that or parents know their gonna win the big lottery drawing and they need the extra money for that. after all they will win the big millions in the lottery ,they been playing every drawing for the past 15 yearst it has to happen next drawing .
Hopefully this data is due to improved health. I hope it is and wish continued good health.
One would think the reports would have included other health related datum (e.g., HTN, NIDDM, etc.) in these same patients as well (to confirm HEALTHY loss).
Meanwhile the title of this article just opens itself up to so many jokes (wrong, bad or not).... increased meth/cocaine/crack use? lost/stolen food stamps? starvation? .... sorry authors - you pretty much asked for it.
Its because the schools changed there menu to exclude potatos and include 2 veggies/fruits and the removal of chocolate milk. some of the inner city schools reported seeing up to 90% of these healthy options were ending up in the trash!
In poverty striken areas, school breakfast and lunch = 100% of many of the childrens daily intake.
I would like to see true results.. lets draw blood and see if they are infact getting healthier or are now malnutritioned due to forced options.
well done Mrs Obama (We all know how evil mashed potatos and chocolate milk can be =)
That is not the reason, moochelle has had nothing to do with the meals for kids getting healthy, and the only thing the odumbos have to do with it is that no one can afford to buy enough food to get fat any more because under odumbo the cost of living is up about 35% for food from just two years ago. and that is all odumbo and cannot be blamed on bush!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is that people cannot afford the food with all the growth hormones in them. My son started drinking a lot of milk and his weight just ballooned. Doctor said it was from all of the bovine growth hormone in the milk. Growth hormone is in all of our food now. Milk,chicken,beef,pork,most of our vegetables are genetically modified. Now we know where the problem is,what can we do about it? None of our elected officials want to tackle the agri-business corporations.What is left but to grow our own if you dont want all the chemicals.
My husband and I hunt, fish, grow a lot of veggies n fruits ourselves. Oh, and then there are our 6 hens in our back yard--funny, happy egg-laying hens :)
As long as I can grow my own vegetables in my yard and go catch some fish once a week, I'll never be starving. I may be incredibly bored eating grilled fish with salad, but I'll be healthy and full!
Maybe their food stamps are running out.
Maybe they are doing the best they can, you smug JERK!
"It's extremely important to make sure we're monitoring obesity in this low-income group,"
It's much more important that we encourage healthy eating habits.
I have some friends that get EBT assistance, and I think it's outrageous that they can (and do) spend the taxpayer funds to buy JUNK FOOD, like unhealthy snacks and sodas and cookies - and typically they don't care about the price because 'it's not their money'.
People on WIC can only buy certain types of healthy food, so the government should require that EBT only be used for HEALTHY foods as well.
I wonder how many of the 47 million people getting 'free food' under Obama voted for him because 'Romney was going to take away my food stamps' (actual statement I heard). Since Obama won by only about 4 million of the 126 million votes cast, it only took a small percentage of them to swing the election. It may have been 'smart politics' to make people dependent on the government, but it's a disaster for the Country because of the skyrocketing Debt we're accumulating.
Please consider that healthy foods are less accessible in lower income areas. Especially if transportation is an issue, it's easier to get a loaf of bread, peanut butter, jelly and a bag of chips from the corner store rather than go all the way to the grocery store or the Farmer's market while handling the kids and going to work everyday (despite what the media wants you to think, lower income people work the longest hours among the population doing more strenuous work as "lower level work" yields a "lower level income"
Well said Robin and often very true. Unfortunately the stereotype that has been pushed regarding low income families is very distorted and only shows the image of the "welfare queens". this makes it easier for people who want to cut people off at the knees feel less guilty because they don't see the truly needy and deserving of assistance.
Just like Roy Wilson using the rhetoric regarding Romney's loss and "skyrocketing" food stamp spending. There is absolutely no consideration given to how people who NEVER before needed help ended up on the short end of the stick needing assistance. The reason that EBT spending is up is because more people are making a lot less than they used to. If people like Roy Wilson really wanted to solve the problem, he would be pushing his party of NO to try to create decent paying jobs rather trying to punish the under paid or under employed. Or better yet, their never ending voting to (31 times) to repeal Obamacare. And remiond me how many anti-choice laws they passed in the last 2-3 years??? I seriously question how the GOP which is supposed to be the party of "Christ"ians can be soooo un-christ like. Just think of when Christ fed all those people with one loaf of bread, the current GOP would have been there pointing out people that they didn't feel deserved bread because they didn't work enough or weren't faithful enough to the church. Christian today = Ability the judge ALL.
No they still get food stamps, but the same amount only buys about half as much as it did a couple yrs ago.
Roy, grow a brain, the fact that we support our own is not Bankrupting the country. What is paid out in Welfare or WIC is peanuts. Why is it that when we support overseas people gripe, I gripe. when we support our own people, people gripe, I don't gripe. No body wants to see a starving child, but to help the child you must help the parent or you inherit a bigger burdon, a parentless child. Even if you help a parentless child people gripe. Some people only need temperary help to get over a hump and they are greatful that our Government was there to help them. You have many things to look at, not everybody is as smart as the next person. Not everybody can comprehend the complexities of society. Do you realize that some people can only handle a simple job like a dishwasher in a resturant and that is a far as they will rise. By Government standards of pay they are authorized to have x amount of food stamps to maintain a level of life? I have no problem with helping a fellow American. The grippers gripe about them and they will probably gripe about me for supporting this idea. I have seen this country go from a Nation of problem solvers to nothing but grippers. Probaably because they don't think they have the answers anymore. I still beleive in JFK words,"Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country." I firmly believe that the Stock Market is an unneccessary Evil this country doesn't need.
The food stamps will never run out.
Probably a good part of that is the increase in breastfeeding education through WIC (my sister used it with her first, about 10 years ago). In general, nursing babies stop eating when they're full, while bottle-fed babies are encouraged to finish what they're given. That influences future eating habits.
As for the food stamp/obesity issue, I fully support:
Reworking what is allowed to be purchased.
Remove subsidies from corn (high fructose corn syrup), and transfer those subsidies to veggies. If junk is more expensive and heathly stuff is less expensive, there will be at least a bit of a shift in what people with a limited budget will buy.
"decently paid?" Unfortunately the solution for that is to create "overpaid" jobs...since lacking any education only allows you to do basic jobs. It wouldn't be fair for gas station clerks to make as much as computer programmers.
A few reasons. A- food stamps won't buy video games. B- calories burned running from crimes C- Twinkies are gone
Poor kids are not as Fat because.......... THEY HAVE NO FOOD !!!!!!!!!!
How about the parents of these kids? Most often they're fat slobs themselves. This crap about low income people being forced into "junk food" is just another excuse for laziness. I live in a small town, our "farmers market" is way cheaper than processed food, but it's not as easy to cook. Americans like "easy" hard is to hard. Most of "the poor" don't even know what "poor is". Poor in America is cable TV, AC, 2 cars, and all kinds of resources, including free food, medical care and cash benefits. You want to see what poor truly is? then go to Mexico City or Cairo then you'll know what poor really is. Poor is burying your food so it doesn't spoil, pumping water from a hand levered well, preparing food over coal, wood or dung. They would consider America's poor to be "upper middle class". Of course I'm politically incorrect, so let the haters begin.
Roy Wilson is right about encouraging healthy eating habits. I don't agree with everything Roy said, but I do like to give credit where credit is due. It is also important to monitor obesity rates because that is the 'measuring stick' to be sure that the approaches we are using are working. WIC is a really good program, and EBT needs to be administered in a similar way. And yes, we need to BE SURE that healthy food is accessible to the lower income areas.
From what I have seen of some people buy chips, sodas, cookies and cakes with food stamp cards, it is no wonder they cannot afford veggies and lean meats.
obviously you either don't do you own grocery shopping, or don't bother to look at the prices
I could spend $5 on cheap packaged junk food and get 3-5 meals. Or I could spend $5 on fresh fruit and veg and get a couple apples that taste like cardboard and make 1 meal.
Yeah, smug, self-satisfied jerks always think they do so much better living on little money than the poor. When I read posts like that, part of me wouldn't wish poverty on anyone, but part of me would really like to see them in a position where they would have to TRY IT!
BS.. I cook from scratch for a family of 10... I do it on less then $200 a week- I coupon and look for sales and I buy things that match up in other words pre plan your meals!
Today we had (cereal,toast, oranges & milk for breakfast, left over Ham, potato's, green bean casserole for lunch then we had turkey ala king over homemade bread for dinner using christmas eve left overs.. and ate cherry pie for desert (I reserved filling for topping homemade ice cream this week to) snacks included apples n sale .69lb and popcorn mix from xmas tin.
Tomarrow I will make 15 bean soup with ham bone and bits left over (packet of 15 bean mix costed me $2.09 I will be adding carrots .49LB and green beans cuz I got the green beans .79 LB (Green produce bag almost filled costed under $2 made dinnerx2 for 12) oh and tomatoes I grew an canned myself.
we also have 2 allergic to dairy, we never buy koolaid only real juice, milk, water served here and most all baked treats are baked here not in a bag with GMO so yes we eat healthy to! I have PPCM (heart problem moms sometimes get)
It takes a little work..
maybe thats the problem.
Firm believer in *what comes around goes around*.
All it takes is a little work to use correct spelling & grammar, too.
Maybe that's the problem w/ some of these comments.
I seriously am daily astonished at how many supposedly adult posters can't spell 2nd & 3rd grade words, know where to place a comma, semi-colon, apostrophe, & period, or figure out a simple possessive.
Or master the intricacies of birth control so that they don't end up w/ a family of 10 to feed in what appears to be an incredibly UN-nutritious fashion, for that matter. A entire week's worth of carbs in a single day, really?
Maybe it's just me, but when I go to the grocery store I see lots of cheap food. If you are not against cooking your own food there would be no problem purchasing rice, peanut butter, beans, or many other high calorie foods.
I think part of the issue is that people who are legitimately impoverished (not just lazy) may not have time to sit at home and cook a meal. A couple loaves of bread at $5 and a couple jars of peanut butter at $5 would contain many more calories and nutritional value than a couple fast food meals at $10 or several bags of chips from the corner store. The same goes for rice and beans and some stores even have cheap ground meat.
We all don't pay the same prices for food as prices vary from state to state and city to town. Not everybody knows how to cook anymore. You can make more from scratch than you can from kits and mixes. People don't even know what a Bread Board, Rolling Pin, or cookie cutter is anymore. For a lot of people opening a can of soup, dumping it in a Bowl and putting it in a Microwave is cooking. Tech is a great thing but you loose your true Survival Skills.
cooking from scratch can be cheaper but can also be very time consuming. Rice from the bag takes me 25 minutes to cook. dried beans need to soak overnight and when I cook dried beans it takes about 2 hours.-if you poor, you may not have 2 pots cook beans and other items.
as for time-most poor do actually work-long hours. so now we need time to shop, a way to carry these items home (bulk beans and rice is where the savings are), time to cook after a long day-and what about some time to spend with the kids.
Oh, and the less expensive peanut butter is loaded with sugar
Doggiemom you're right. The rest of these losers are excuse makers for the "people" that are bleeding our country of every last cent with out putting anything in. If one watches sales, and makes an effort fresh food and staples (dry beans, rice and flour) are the best, most yielding buys. The real problem is these leeches are too f'ing lazy to make the effort to follow any other recipe besides "bring water to a boil and add contents of box"; and if we're going to say it's too time consuming, then get the kids to help, by teaching them how to spend 2 minutes adding water to beans to soak overnight, so they can be cooked into something in an hour or so the next day. Or to combine 2 cups of water with one cup of rice, bring to a boil (5-7 minutes max) reduce heat to simmer, cover. Not to mention this only really has to be done every three days, if there's a shred of common sense and a fridge in the house.
Really scar_tissue? Way to go with the correct grammar.
Who gives a damn about someone using correct grammar or not... F.U. Do you know what that means or should I spell it out for you. Is this a contest or a message board. Does the person with correct spelling move on to the championship round an a chance at a million dollars ?????, Didnt think so, Ima gona pell like chit till da day I dye.....
Hey PB I hope you're not talking to me, S_T was the one calling people out on the grammar deal, I was just holding up a mirror. If it was to me then fuch yew too.
Peple like scar turn into the grammer nazi ritual when they have nothing real to say.
I work numbers for a living. Ive never claimed to be a writer..however my best friend is an editor and she does paper corrections for teacher, lawyers, doctors so obviously many people dont have the best writing skill set- I did go to public school maybe thats it!
As for my family of 10- We planned to have our big family- We have no life line no mommy or daddy saves or bails us out, we have friends that are as good as family to us. We have a 3500 sq ft home with land outside of the city, a 25ft pool the kids have a 13ft enclosed trampoline and a giant playset. My kids have plenty of personal items, they have nice clothes they dont want for anything. We even have college funds set up and 1 going next year! We take care of ours better then people we grew up with take care of 1! I should be ashamed of what?
Its not luck.. its because we did the planning and continue the work to maintain our lifestyle.
I grew up in chicago public housing. I AM THE CHILD OF A WELFARE MOM. I know poor- I know neglect- I know alcholic parents- I know drug dealers- My dad is one! My husband grew up in the system was adopted by not so nice people. So dont sing a song of BS.. your either singing yourself in excuse cuz you live it or YOU'VE NO CLUE as to the TRUTH in the tune!
We worked really hard to change the cycle our life was heading into! EVERYSINGLE girlfriend I grew up with in My neighboorhood is poor- on welfare some work enough to buy clothes and afford the clubs, some under the table to, some sell benefits for the same, many drive nice cars get cash from baby daddys but dont tell public aid cuz the guys are drug dealers nobody can prove the money comes in! You know who mostly works in the hood? The mexicans, they are the hardest working people in the hood and they receive the least benefits but yes they get em even illegals get them! I dare you to prove me wrong.. pull census records (Ive worked for them) Drive by a daily pay job placement center at 5am in chicago I promise you for every other race sitting to be sent for work you will see 3 to 1 (I worked out of ready man in chicago for over 1 year during and following my 1st pregnancy 5am-6pm sometimes later to make $50 in the mid 90's and I got paid $1 more and hour for speaking english)
You dont believe me? I really dont care.. I believe in karma to and I know I live my life right! Im far from cold- I care very much for these children But I know first hand giving them some FREE OBAMA CARROTS ISNT the HELP they need!
It makes people mad to hear these things because it makes people realize life isnt everything they thought. Its a nicer story to believe the childs name you pulled off the tree belongs to a mom whos husband died, has no family and one of her 3 kids is autistic.. Rather then knowing the 23 yr HS drop out has 3 kids 2 baby daddys- 1 is a drug dealer, she sleeps with random "hot" guys in her free apartment with no regard t the harm it could bring her kids, she buys mac n cheese an hot dogs and ramin soup for the kids- pop for herself koolaid for the kids and sells the rest of her benefits to buy things like her Newports... and weed.. On the weekend she dumps her kids off on her momma who still has kids at home an also is on welfare.. she goes clubbing and if were lucky baby #4's Daddy#3 sticks around and happens to have a real job but thats doubtful cuz a decent guy slums it but they dont stay- they are your free drinks at the club nothing more... but hopeful hodrats still try to rope em in cuz its like winning the lotto getting kncked up by a rich kid- in reality is just a middle class child but to the hodrat thats rich!
Thats the reality- Im not pulling it outta my rear this is the real deal ive seen it more times then ive seen it not happen that way! The person who says otherwise either 1 never lived in the hood or is pissy cuz Im making them read what a looser there actions are! I honestly only know 2 other people from my housing project that is now middle class or above. The hood is like quick sand and the GOV keeps making you sink deeper an deeper in- they give these people no real tools to rise above. Are there programs? yes but so very limited helping only handfuls at a time- most give just enough knowledge to get a low job and it isnt long before the kid realizes they can make more scamming aid and hence the cycle continues..
In the program I was in, out of 27 17-24yr olds. I was the only one to get into a college following, 2 girls dropped out early because of pregnancy and only 10 obtained work making an average of $8 hr, 4 that I know of went to jail because several only joined the program after a judge allowed it after a public defender pushed for it in attempt to avoid jail. The rest were offered to be placed on the list to try again!
But see all the GOV will show you is people like me and the the other 10 and they wont say I was the only college bound... they will word it like "Our programs offer these students a chance to change there life.. some go onto further education while other's take advantage of our work program" Job placement is within companies that fund the program so they can obtain new fresh trained workers willing to except less!
Political BS!! thats all it is! Its the non for profit programs that actually help anybody get out not the GOV!
"Scar_tissue" you need to wake up... instead of downing people for bring to light or trying to find solutions for a bad reality!
p:s Grammer check me.. I didnt correct nothin, Sooo have a blast!
oh ya Scar: wtf do you eat for the holidays? didnt think I had to mention we were eatting left overs from traditional American christmas dinner not typical... or that I was showing how one could build meals off meals.. your so smart.. musta missed that huh?
FYI Not 1 of my familiy members is over weight or under. I myself am a size 7 not perfect but certainly not a carb diet!
An adverb can be placed either before or after the word it is modifying.
I can't even make sense of half of what you're saying, let alone have the room for suspending belief. That's what happens when a comment is poorly presented & riddled with so many errors that the reader can't follow it.
LMFAO
I reckon those must be even more special than free Obama phones, seeing as they're in all-caps.
Meh. I only get paid to correct students' work, not that of random strangers online.
ihold8stars, I agree that if you have the time to shop for bargains, clip coupons and cook from scratch (AND have the knowledge about how to do all of this), it is possible to eat cheaply. One of MY big gripes is that schools have stopped teaching "home economics" which would help folks do this. That having been said, if you are a single parent working 2 jobs of 8 hours each just to keep a roof over head with luxuries such as heat, water and power, it doesn't leave a lot of time to do all that even IF you know how.
yeah - it's called starvation. First you can only afford cheap garbage food; so the kids are obese. Next, the money runs out and you can't buy ANY food!
People eat more because the body is craving nutrition that is not in the food. Chemicals in the ground and those used for pesticides, not to mention acid rain strip nutrition from the food. People that are poor or on food stamps certainly can not afford organic food, even when doctor ordered due to food intolerances and allergies.
I think some people are realizing that you are healthier eating very little rather than to eat food with no nutritional value.
Yes, b/c poor=stupid, & they were just too stupid to *realize* that b4?
You are not not NOT *healthier eating very little*.
Eating very little deprives the body of essential vitamins & nutrients, making ppl more susceptible to both illness in general & conditions specifically related to malnutrition.
Ppl are also more susceptible to accidents & poor schl/work performance from being too fatigued to concentrate. The body requires fuel to function efficiently.
Equally ridiculous *reasons*; just admit they don't know the answer & quit guessing.
Virtually entire generations were bottle-fed b/c that was considered healthier than breastfeeding in the latter 2/3 of the 20th century, yet we always hear adults insisting if there were 2 fat kids in their classrms back in the day, that was a lot.
As an educator, I've seen that anecdotal evidence really hasn't changed much. The elementary schls at which I taught were not crammed full of obese kids waddling down the halls. The occasional *chubby* (a bit overweight, not obese) kid was about it. They'd get slimmed down via a growth spurt sooner or later.
After 30 yrs of teaching, a grand total of one obese 5th grader & one obese 2nd grader (both of whom who were that way due to chronic disease, not overeating) springs to mind. It's when kids hit puberty that some begin gaining a lot of weight very quickly.
*Rising awareness of the importance of physical activity* is absurd. There isn't a parent of a fat kid on the planet who isn't *aware* their kid should move to burn calories.
that was my first reaction as well. "hey, they're finally just starving the tots!" sadly, the data was from clinical kids and that means most likely medicaid, which means they also probably get reasonable portions of food stamps. My bet is that portions are declining in the families since food stamps don't follow the price spikes.
if you wanna see grim, check out the neighborhoods that rely more heavily on food pantries and check out the dust on the shelves. the situation for so many is dire. but hey, anything to keep suburban white folks feeling superior is worth the sacrifice!
I agree with this. My Family of 3 - Myself husband and one kid were on food stamps for 3 months while we were out of work a couple of years ago. We received 258.00 per month to feed us 3. 86 bucks each.
That is a hard budget for food to buy healthy. Luckily I garden so we had fruits and veggies. My husband and I ate lots of beans and peanut butter sandwiches so we could get as much healthy food as we can.
I guess I agree that they just do not have enough food healthy or not.
I owned both my cars which counted as disposable income.. I could have sold one.. According to the state of Michigan. They also stated that their funds were running out.. We made due I found work again. We were only on the "system for 3 months. Well I had to pay back 3 weeks of benefits when I started working again So 2 months.. I would much rather work than deal with the system ever again
I do agree that there are people gaming the system, but the unfortunate thing is that people like Kjosee are lumped into the stereotype of the fraudsters. So rather than try to curtail the fraud, waste and abuse by investigating and prosecuting, it's easier just to cut all benefits and throw the baby out with the bath water. It gets easier to do that so long as the face of the truly needy (laid off, jobless, underemployed, previously white middle class Americans) is hidden from view.
Leftisfascist
ok so a little social experiment: I did some research... It wasnt hard to figure out how to scam the system- of course I did not file any copies- I only went through the motions to see what was available and how one could work at getting it.
Heres what I can get and how:
If I stop reporting My non w2 earnings from tax preperations, selling baked goods and jewelry sales all which I can make pretty untraceable (I do do taxes for a living) If My husband uses our cabin in WI address and we claim to have seperated and we simply download and file our own child support provision which will give me about $1300 a month for 8 kids (man id get screwed better keep him around lol)
I would qualify for $1025 in food benefits each month.
If I tell my appointed caseworker my husbands abusive I would be excluded from filing for child support and could claim I received no support. I would then receive $1,352
I qualify for food pantry I can go 1x a month to each unique provider- there are 3 in my area. For kicks i called ne and asked what I could exected to receive..
apparently because I have a large family I would receive 10 lbs of a meat (whatevers on hand I guess) 2 dozen eggs and 2 gallons of milk and about 2 boxes of pantry foods. I was told if I come on a thursday I could help myself to bakery items that are set out. I could also do this weekly just not the boxed foods/meats thats only 1x a month.
I tried calling the other 2 places they said come in they would take care of me im curious but id feel aweful I cant do that. s im going to guess they might be similar- though one said I could "shop" as if I would get options what I get where the other places is pre boxed.
So lets see over $1000 plus 6 boxes of pantry food plus least 10 lbs of meat (maybe 30 if all 3 pantries offer the same amount) free baked goods weekly.. WOW I dont even break $900 a month with a holiday in it on groceries now!
with couponing I could probly feed a family of 6 along side my own on those benefit!
I also qualify for Lheap (they pay all or a large portion of utility bills)
I also qualify for a free cell phone
Apparently here in IL ur section 8 list is huge and only opens a few times a year- it was closed but i do qualify for the list from what ive read.
If I say he pays support I can still receive medical/dental which would cover what his INS does not
If I claim hes a bad guy and I dont get support.. I get full medical and dental plus free medication
In IL I dont have to work cause I have a child under the age of 6 at home so I could receive cash benefits without a clock counting and because one of my kids has a learning problem I could file an exemption which excludes me from ever having to work!!!
Meaning I have no time limit as to being on public aid receiving cash benefits!
It says amounts would be determined at my appointment so im of course not going to get the exact cash amount but if its anything like the food portion MAN!
I can however enroll in college on the states bill and I also qualify for childcare.. and the site states if I work I would be rewarded they will only take away $1 from my benefits for every $4 I earn.
My kids would also qualify for financial aid for college- free lunch n breakfast- free school fees ( paid over $1000 this year!)
once I would receive the medical card
I can sign up for W.I.C( I have a child under 5)
I can visit the clothing closet 1x a week pick out 25 items
I can eat at soup kitchen 3x a day with kids ( WOW now that would stretch the EBT) I also volunteer at our soup kitchen so I know whats prepared and its pretty decent food I always assumed the visitors were homeless I never realised they could be getting benefits aswell.. semi shocked
I also can get medical rides My hospital confirmed all I need is medical card.
I stopped there.. Now im sure many will say well thats in IL....
SO I repeated this using a upper WI addy- pretty much the same results less food pantries there though. however I was told if I approved for emergency housing i could receive a check in as little as 10 days of finding an approved rental.
If I didnt think I was to cute for prison I might go through the process and video it all!
Heartland25 thats very true... I catch crap for having a large family up until they learn I dont get benefits!
I and My husband have worked most of our adult life. If something happen and we did need help- I can only imagine the backlash we would get.. its sad because those services should be for people like me who have worked hard lived right and need a hand up but instead they give so many hand outs when they come across a middle class family in the begining of crisis they make it impossible to get help- they asked assets online form here I guessed they would add that as income so didnt add that on form I filled cuz I know I could hide it.
( I only did a form nothing was filed pure test.... no panty wadders please)
Dress down- play dumb and greatful- look hungry and lie. I guess thats the asnwer to getting benefits.
Kjosee
in IL a family of 3 receive $526 plus all the above i mentioned
and you wouldnt loose benefits until you surpass $2,069 a month look up the "Link Calculator" in msn search
They ask about assest an vehicles here to but they dont have man power to look for it..
of course most hard working Americans falling on hard times are by nature greatful and willing up the truth.. but see thats not what they are use to hearing...
You get way more benefits if you have nothing- if your not working they require no monthly reporting...
I bet its the same by you probly even less man power to catch scammers because the poverty is so great in your state.
ihold8stars
So, you just basically admitted to tax evasion on a public forum, hiding income from the gov't so that your 8 kids can have a trampoline.
The total amt of fraud in all assistance programs is 4%.
3% of that is caused by *worker error*, ie, they lost paperwork, missed a verification, or miscalculated an assistance amt.
Just 1% is caused by someone *gaming the system*.
For example, like you're doing by working off the books.
I sincerely hope you are not homeschooling as well as figuring out ways to game the system.
Ihold8stars-
I received benefits in Michigan. I went there for help not to lie and get the most.. My ultimate plan was to find work again..
I am a hardworking taxpayer and did not want to take more than I needed or for longer than needed..
There is a 2 year max benefit here and who knows if I will need it again in my life..
Wow Scar.. you are an idiot!
I do not receive any assistance and I file a schdule C
I- USED - A- ONLINE- FREE- APPLICATION- TOOL- TO- SEE- HOW - EASY- ONE - COULD- SCAM- THE - SYSTEM.
Not that I did...
We reported all earnings. If somebody was scamming I dont think they would report it on a public forum.
Racist pig is what you are - Just because I have a big family doesnt mean I live any different then a person with 1 or 2 children! My children attend our public schools that My property taxes pay for. In addition I pay all school fee's. I pay for the school lunch when My children choose to eat at school.
Let me guess you think I make our clothes to?
You watch to much TV...
You have nothing important to say that doesnt first involve criticizing another. Maybe My grammer sucks.. But your personality sucks. Your a bitter hopeful blogger that doesnt realize a comment board isnt Journalism.
You dont win a cookie for being a jerk..
Kjosse
I know. Its sad how these programs are structured. They punish the people who are trying to care for themself while rewarding those who have often never provided for themself.
I believe We the people need to push for reconstruction of the welfare system because it is broken.
I was reading the PA website for IL and they also have a limit on how long you can receive benefits- except they make exceptions that stop the clock. Obviously with the amount of people constantly on public aid, many managed to avoid the time restrictions.
Did you file a complaint? You can ask for a complaint form from your local office and describe what you felt is wrong with the system. Its takes alot of complaints to make changes- yours might help.
Well, duh! When you can't afford food, you can't possibly get fat! That's logical. It's the people who have plenty of money to buy food that eat too much and don't get enough exercise. Don't dis food stamps if you still have a job and can afford groceries. There are lots of qualified people out there who can't get a job because of the Republicans' platform and they have to eat somehow.
What a moron!!!!!!! Odumbo and the Democraps are the reason there are no jobs! Wake up and pull your head put. Odumbo had done nothing but destroy jobs and the economy since he got into office. The only reason he got re elected was because of useful idiots like you and the buying of votes. Lets see he did the dream act to get the illegals and mexican vote, gave phones and free money for the minority and welfare votes and opened the military and promised gay marriage for the gay vote!!!!!!!! Not one thing has been done under him or any dem for job creation though, just more spending and welfare!!!!!!!!!
now you're just being stupid. offshoring has been a bipartisan gig, and it comes at the command of corporate America and Wall Street. seriously, those stupid letters mean nothing when it comes to this stuff. you guys need to grow up faster, because you're the ones holding everyone else back.
@garrie, there is a documentary called ETHOS, Narriated by Woody Harrelson, you need to see this, in fact a lot of you need to see this. It is a wake up call, if you have a Netfliks Acct, I saw it there. It's going to answer a lot of questions and complaints people have been spouting off about. There is even a breif sceen wher GWB stated he didn't believe Al Qaeda was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. That set me back 10 feet. Befroe you Troll on Obama you better wake up and start seeing what is going on. I have begun to rethink GWB some but have not even considered changing my mind on Cheney. You can keep your head up your butt til the cows come home and I don't buy that as an excuse for not knowing or being aware of anything. You need to know who your real enamy is. Your real enamy is not the President, but right here on your shores. What are you going to do about them?
I suspect that Monsanto and the rest of the GMO makers are mad because people are starting to realize they are making us fat and unhealthy and the companies have taken to the tv telling everyone how WONDERFUL they are. GMO Cookies yum yum!! If you get the media to write that obesity is going down then no one will think GMO foods are bad for us. Same as they paid them to print there was no difference between organic and regular fruits and vegetables. DUH... Its a scam.......the media is not our friend when corporations are paying big bucks.
A tinfoil hat won't help you... maybe a titanium-uranium alloy with a tinfoil lining?
i understand that conspiracism is attractive when everyone's lying, but maybe try sticking to the simplest explanation first instead of going out of your way for exotic reasons.
Peace of Mind, Actually Organics do have a better taste, if you can ward off the expense.
As for companies like GMO, they know what the result of a product is before they put it on the market. CEOs look at things this way anymore, How much can they make before anybody catches on, minus what the fine can be when caught, equals how much money they stand to keep clear. To them it is straight simple Quick Profit as to long term investment. It's all about money to them and they don't give a crap about the results to you, Obeasity, Brain Damage, Health or your life.
We need to know who the evil doers are and boycott them into Submission or Oblivian.
6dogs--I agree with you. Just follow the money---very interesting!
BTW, I have begun to boycot certain things--and I grow as much of my own fruits n vegies as I can, and vote with my wallet whenever possible (made in USA first, Fair Trade or countries where people are paid a decent wage second, and China etc only when absolutely a necessity--ex--if my car needs a part only made in China)
What with Mom and If theyhavaDad in the unemployment lines and gasoline so high..nobody to cook, shop or drive thru..it's not a wonder..
Let those in office ... live on the small amount of money we have for groceries.And I promise !!! They to will lose wieght !!!!!!!!!!!!!
hell, they'd end poverty overnight if they had to live months on what's left of the safety net. funny how everyone who yaps about it are the last ones to want it themselves.
I really like it when one of these big wigs says he is going to live in poverty for a week to see what these people are going through to determin if they are getting enough. A week, with a pocket full of credit cards and cash and a car probably supplied for him. How does he factor that in. I'm willing to bet that the neoghborhood he lives in doesn't have a Bus Stop.
African kids are too thin because of not enough food, while American kids are too fat because of too much food. I'm sure both sides are feeling each other's pain equally.
Actually, Obesity is becoming a rising problem in Africa. But, better to be fat than starving in most cases.
Thank those GMO's Doomsbaby!
Please give us the link you base this claim on. I research thoroughly and I couldn't find it. But then so many facts are manufactured to suit.
Are we supposed to thank Michellle for her newly developed lunch time cuisine on our nickle? Which most kids are throwing into the trash cans? I grew up poor, with no help at all from the government! We all ate 3 meals a day with no assistance from feeding stations or food stamps. My mom made my lunch, such as it was. Can these parents no longer throw together a peanut butter sandwich?
Yes they probably can put together a P&J sandwich... but most schools have outlawed them :(
Why did they outlaw P&J sandwich is schools? I used to bring mine all the time,, couldnt afford the lunch at school myself.. 35c a day. wow, I wonder what It cost now! I weighed 95 lbs in the 12th grade. I ate good at home, but I worked mine off. garden.. mowing.. and no we didnt get food stamps,, we worked...
Yeah, I agree with you there.. I grew up the same way as you did.. I made my lunches for myself and my brother and sister.... and it was in a brown paper sack.. OH sometimes, I would get a can of beenie weenies. that was luxury.. those was the good ole days.. : )
Genetic modified wheat and peanut butter! A balanced diet fit for learning!
Yummy!
the new thing is the PB and J is racist!!!!!!!!! Just ask any good democrat and lib and they will tell you about that. That is the reason the PB and J is not allowed to be given out in school for lunches any more.
Garrie, spouting lies and ignorance. Peanut butter is not allowed in schools because of peanut allergies. Typical Republican and Fox watcher. Spread lies constantly.
WOW! Garrie is one of those people that is almost on the tipping point of losing his mind. I sincerely hope he does not have any assault weapons at his disposal. His posts could be used to test sanity for issuing gun permits.
40 years ago you might find one or two kids in class overweight. Somehow they got the nickname "Tubby" Now if you go to a school function, a good percentage could stand to lose a few pounds.
Teenagers in sports are starving with the new federal lunch food guidelines. They need the calories and are not getting them. So now they bring the granola bars or junk food from home to supplement the lunches with too few calories. Obesity is just not junk food, its exercise which kids don't get anymore in many places in fear of getting shot at for being just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Show me a community which is safe and kids are outside playing. Give me a community where there is violence and kids go straight to school and back not to get out again until the next day to do it all over again. And for you people knocking those on food stamps, may you never see the person staring back at you in your mirror be unemployed or just can't find work because they were told to go to college and get a degree. No college degree guarantees you a job. Job skills that are useful and are needed for open positions, however will pay your rent and buy groceries. Don't always believe college is the key out of poverty or the key to success. Nothing could be further from the truth other than those liar student loans they sell you.
gee, maybe its due to the parents not having enough money to pay for food??? either that or parents know their gonna win the big lottery drawing and they need the extra money for that. after all they will win the big millions in the lottery ,they been playing every drawing for the past 15 yearst it has to happen next drawing .
Hopefully this data is due to improved health. I hope it is and wish continued good health.
One would think the reports would have included other health related datum (e.g., HTN, NIDDM, etc.) in these same patients as well (to confirm HEALTHY loss).
Meanwhile the title of this article just opens itself up to so many jokes (wrong, bad or not).... increased meth/cocaine/crack use? lost/stolen food stamps? starvation? .... sorry authors - you pretty much asked for it.
Its because the schools changed there menu to exclude potatos and include 2 veggies/fruits and the removal of chocolate milk. some of the inner city schools reported seeing up to 90% of these healthy options were ending up in the trash!
In poverty striken areas, school breakfast and lunch = 100% of many of the childrens daily intake.
I would like to see true results.. lets draw blood and see if they are infact getting healthier or are now malnutritioned due to forced options.
well done Mrs Obama (We all know how evil mashed potatos and chocolate milk can be =)
That is not the reason, moochelle has had nothing to do with the meals for kids getting healthy, and the only thing the odumbos have to do with it is that no one can afford to buy enough food to get fat any more because under odumbo the cost of living is up about 35% for food from just two years ago. and that is all odumbo and cannot be blamed on bush!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a selling point for the liberals; being poor is healthy.
It is that people cannot afford the food with all the growth hormones in them. My son started drinking a lot of milk and his weight just ballooned. Doctor said it was from all of the bovine growth hormone in the milk. Growth hormone is in all of our food now. Milk,chicken,beef,pork,most of our vegetables are genetically modified. Now we know where the problem is,what can we do about it? None of our elected officials want to tackle the agri-business corporations.What is left but to grow our own if you dont want all the chemicals.
There is nothing left but that.
My husband and I hunt, fish, grow a lot of veggies n fruits ourselves. Oh, and then there are our 6 hens in our back yard--funny, happy egg-laying hens :)
"Cries with happyness" OMG its GOOD news for a change.
Bull.......That story is just trying to make Michelle O. look good.
If it's so much better to be poor, then why is Obama trying to distribute more of others wealth to them?
umm cuz Obama is distributing hard working folks money unto non earning people,... hmmm
Is it really that Obesity is declining or that Malnutrition is growing????
:)
Jello Biafra.
NO More Twinkees!
I miss twinkies..
We are all gonna be starving in another yr or two.
Not all of "us".
As long as I can grow my own vegetables in my yard and go catch some fish once a week, I'll never be starving. I may be incredibly bored eating grilled fish with salad, but I'll be healthy and full!
..."Those kids are known to be at higher risk of obesity than their well-off peers..." because they follow the example set by their lazy azz parents.