MusicGirl23 - I agree that the racism could be left out of the original post, but the point is still valid. From the information gathered from the article, Sonia Limas, "moved to the border town of Alamo 13 years ago with her husband and three daughters."

While it's admirable that she's NOW teaching, the article leaves out a few points.

1. She, and her family, have been in the country illegally for thirteen years. Does it really take that long to go through the naturalization process? No.

2. The article mentions nothing of her making attempts to improve her education level to put herself in position to better provide for her family.

I can understand the plight of the children is at the feet of the parents. There's a huge ethical dilemma on this subject. But there needs to be some boundary set. Why should tax payers be forced to increased medical costs because hospitals have to pass the cost of recouping the bills from those who cannot pay their medical bills?

I empathize with this women but she cut ahead of the line which is unfair for those who are waiting to come to the U.S. legally.All illegals should be deported immediately so those who follow the laws can come tp the U.S.

@MusicGirl

All men (and women) are created equal. That does not give stinking illegals the right to come here and pillage our services, steal identities and drop anchor babies.

What is racist about an illegal person being told to go back to their own country? If you lib give-away artists had to use your own money rather than the money of poeple who actually work and pay taxes, you might think twice before you criticized.

Why not send the bills to the country of origin or deduct it from whatever foreign aid they get?

Send her and the rest of her illegal family back to where they came from. Let their own country pay for their health care, we can not afford it.

. She, and her family, have been in the country illegally for thirteen years. Does it really take that long to go through the naturalization process? No.

Yes, she has to get a work permit first, then be a legal resident for 10 years if she isn't married to an American citizen. Naturalization is easy, the legal residency is hard.

That just breaks my heart. (no sarcasm font). By no means do I think that anyone should be left to suffer. That being said, if it's serious and there is a possibility of permanent or severe or death, than treat them, stabilize them enough to travel, than send them back to their country of origin. No more free medical for a cold or non-life threatening issues. There is a path to becoming a citizen. It's called stay in your own country until you can get a work visa and come here legally. I'm sick and tired of people barging into our country, yes, our country and than expect everybody to feel bad for them because becoming a citizen is so hard or they can't get all the benefits they think they should have because they slunk into our country unnoticed. There is a path to citizenship but you have to be willing to make a genuine effort starting with the way you enter this country. Sneaking across the border in a van or on a raft in the middle of the night should be an indication that you're not doing it right. My advise to those people. Go back the way you came and then impress everyone and do it the right way. Do it the legal way and we'll be happy to have you here.

Instead of running away from problems, people need to have a "third-world spring" to force their Gov'ts to be more socially responsible for their citizens. People should demand that their Gov't provide programs to improve education, care for those that cannot themselves...oh never mind, I always forget how people don't like to stand up for themselves anymore. Anyone who thinks Libertarianism and small Gov't is good should take a look at Mexico and countries like it that don't have "entitlement" programs...a lot of people need help once in a while, for many reasons. Oh and keeping others healthy helps keep yourself healthy:)

Wait a minute....

The Progressives will say it is a "human right" for everyone to have health care.

Then send the bill for the Emergency Room care to the Progressives.

Just wait until the "rest" of the illegals are given Amnesty.....food stamps, housing, and maybe even a Chevy Volt. Wait a minute.....almost there.

Musicgirl23

Do you think Americans should pay to cover the healthcare for the Rest of the Entire World ?? Let's get real: That is not racist !! Everything that is a sane rational conclusion, is not always racist !! The American taxpayer is NOT responsible for the entire world's population.

If you feel ALL illegals should be covered .... donate ALL the money you have left after your expenditures each and every month to their health agenda. Show your true generosity.

It's all good. If voters in the states with the highest concentrations of "undocumented" (I prefer illegal) citizens want to keep re-electing representatives that cater to the "undocumented" population, then fine. Do so. But now, there will be a greater cost for doing so than in the past, because in the past, the federal government subsidized care given to "undocumented" patients. Now, thanks to Obama, that subsidy is decreasing and the cost of encouraging the "undocumented" to ignore our borders is going up. It's about the only good thing I have seen thus far in the Affordable Health Care Act (how's that for a name for a bill that increases health care cost?). The Affordable Health Care Act just caused my insurance to increase by over 20% for this year. So at least allow me to appreciate the fact that those voting for ignoring my country's borders will now have to pay more.

No sympathy here. Racist? If I go to Mexico, or Europe, or anywhere, I have no health insurance, unless I pay for an international rider. Does that mean that all those countries are racist? Why are we the only country on the planet that is not allowed to enforce our border laws? And the harsh, self-imposed reality is that their birth rates are not sustainable without higher infant mortality. With better care comes reproductive responsibility. No other options.

All human beings deserve healthcare, and our society as a whole is a great failure when we fail to care for all..

When $$$ becomes the argument then it's time to look into our souls and figure out where we went astray.

Sad to read such hatred coming from so many.. very sad

Health care reform threatens clinic care for illegals

AAAAAAAH BOO EFFING HOO HOO HOO HOO HOO HOO HOO.

There are MILLIONS of LAW ABIDING, TAX PAYING and HARD WORKING AMERICAN CITIZENS who can't get decent health care either. Cry me a fooking river.

The criminal illegal aliens can go back to where they came from then if they think it's so tough.

Illegals should not be receiving any of our tax money for anything. If dongwork wants to pay for their health care then that is OK. I'm fed up paying high taxes to support illegals.

And who helps cover or Medical Bills that we cannot afford..... NO ONE..... Medical Insurance really is about worthless in this country and has been for years.....

Schmeckt Lecker

Instead of running away from problems, people need to have a "third-world spring" to force their Gov'ts to be more socially responsible for their citizens. People should demand that their Gov't provide programs to improve education, care for those that cannot themselves...oh never mind, I always forget how people don't like to stand up for themselves anymore. Anyone who thinks Libertarianism and small Gov't is good should take a look at Mexico and countries like it that don't have "entitlement" programs...a lot of people need help once in a while, for many reasons. Oh and keeping others healthy helps keep yourself healthy:)

Mexico's government is most certanly not libertarian. For one thing, public healthcare entitlements are stipulated by Aricle 4 of the Mexican Constitution. You are clueless.

Those monkeys posting about racism here need to look up and learn the definition of the word before you use it.

Mexico's government is most certanly not libertarian. For one thing, public healthcare entitlements are actually guaranteed by the Mexican Constitution. You are clueless.

In that case, American hospitals should be allowed to bill the Mexican government for services rendered.

When we stop referring to it as a 3rd world country with no means of making it a better one then maybe they will stay or at least start thinking it has some hope. You have them agreeing with you and crying because of it but not willing to fix it! Even Romney will tell you if you tell a lie long enough people will start to believe it.

Why the F would an illegal immigrant get healthcare to begin with? @!$%# like this pisses me off.

Ask your self this question . . Why should tax payers pay for health coverage for people who are not even suppose to be in the country to begin with. I can not even get health coverage, and I AM A CITIZEN. I am not here illegally, I pay taxes . . lots of them . . and then to think anyone is worried about a illegal alien having health insurance is beyond me. Also, to think that people are illegally, and they think they are entitled to everything from health care to drivers permits and no cost education makes me sick... Again, I pay tax and can not get the benefits illegals get.. Great country.

The family's options improved somewhat a decade ago with the expansion of community health clinics, which offered free or low-cost care with help from the federal government

A DECADE ago!?! This one family out of how many millions of others have been in this country illegally for this long?! Why in the @!$%# haven't they been thrown out?!?

To be clear, Obama's law was never intended to help Limas and an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants like her. Instead, it envisions that 32 million uninsured Americans will get access to coverage by 2019

GOOD!!! Obamacare rocks in this regard. Should serve as one more reason for them NOT to be here in the first place!!! 11 MILLION ILLEGAL "Immigrants"? These people are not immigrants! They are INTRUDERS and our government should work fervently to throw them OUT!!

When the reform has been fully implemented, illegal immigrants will make up the nation's second-largest population of uninsured

Well talk about shooting ourselves in the foot: We fail to take care of our own because illegals are standing in line with their hand out. No more hand outs! We cannot afford this any longer!

Harris Health System in Houston, which spends 10 to 15 percent of its $1.2 billion annual budget to care for illegal immigrants

California, which is home to the nation's largest population of illegal immigrants, spent an estimated $1.2 billion last year through Medicaid to care for 822,500 illegal immigrants

The New Jersey Hospital Association in 2010 estimated that it cost between $600 million and $650 million annually to treat 550,000 illegal immigrants

And in Texas, a 2010 analysis by the Health and Human Services Commission found that the agency had provided $96 million in benefits to illegal immigrants, up from $81 million two years earlier. The state's public hospital districts spent an additional $717 million in uncompensated care to treat that population

Just look at these numbers! Unbelievable! If this doesn't make your blood boil then I don't know what else will. How on earth can we tolerate this? This is insane!

Limas, 44, moved to the border town of Alamo 13 years ago with her husband and three daughters

Again, this family has intruded into our country illegally over a decade ago. They have taken advantage of a damned-forgiving system and benefitted from it more than they deserve. WHY are they allowed to stay? WHY isn't our authorities taking action immediately to send them back across the border!? This is unconscionable! Write and call your congressman/woman endlessly to demand action be taken on this scourge and to enforce our laws and safety for citizens of this country!

Many have questioned why they have knowingly been in this country ILLEGALLY for the past decade plus and yet haven't bothered to become citizens. Why would they? There is obviously no penalty for their actions and they know it. Whereas if they became citizens then they would have to start paying taxes, etc. like the rest of the citizens. The only thing they risk is being deported and the reality of that is they will be back in the country before the INS gets back to their office.

As long as there are programs to abuse there will be people willing to abuse them. This has nothing to do with race - it has to do with people. America has more than its fair share of entitlers. There are always going to be people who feel they are owed something because of their position in life. It has been going on for millenia and will continue as long as there are governments willing to condone such actions.

These people use the E-room services for routine health care because they know they can - they aren't turned away. How often do you see them going to the local auto repair for a free oil change and tune up? That is why many hospitals are reviewing the definition of "emergency" care. A cold and the associated medications are not emergencies but the people will hold off until it surpasses the "bar" and then seek care. These people aren't stupid - they are very smart. They know how to work the system and have a communications network that rivals the internet for speed and information on how to get the advantage.

Go obama! Continue as you have and we will soon rival those countries from which these illegals come. I know that is your plan - that way there is no incentive for the illegals to come here.

"But in states with large illegal immigrant populations, the math may not work, especially if lawmakers don't expand Medicaid, the joint state-federal health program for the poor and disabled."

Here lies the problem. It is not, "especially if lawmakers don't expand Medicaid", it is because red state Republican lawmakers deliberately refuse to expand Medicaid. This is simply open defiance to Obamacare with no regard to much greater taxpayer expense and much greater suffering of impoverished ill people.

This is not an Obama problem. It is a two (P)Rick problem created and embraced by Governors Perry and Scott.

@FlatIron72-7314662:

"Mexico's government is most certanly not libertarian. For one thing, public healthcare entitlements are stipulated by Aricle 4 of the Mexican Constitution. You are clueless."

Really? Then explain to me why so many are impoverished, turn to working for drug lords, and end up in the US. Oh that's right, what Mexico is supposed to do, they aren't doing then. Take a look on any channel that shows the hellholes some of these people are living in and tell me again how Mexico takes care of its citizens. Clueless is a matter of perspective sir.

I jump through hoops, bend over backward and fight tooth and nail to work within the system to keep benefits for my ward (a citizen of the U.S.) who is severely disabled. I can strike up a conversation in the Health & Human Services office with an illegal immigrant and in ten minutes, through their broken English, learn more about what benefits are available and getting them than I can ever learn from the H&W employees.

If I want to enroll my U.S. born child in public school I need to provide birth certificate, immunization papers, proof of address, etc. Yet an illegal immigrant can walk into a public school and enroll their child with nothing more than a mailing address.

I live in a state with a fairly high proportion of illegal immigrants. I'm not racist. We have several Mexico-born neighbors who are here legally and are wonderful community members and friends. I frequent businesses owned by my neighbors of Hispanic descent. My favorite fast food joint is an authentic Mexican restaurant, sort of a taco stand in a building, that is owned and run by Hispanics. To my mind our neighbors are no different than we are, as in my forefathers came to this country looking for a better life just as they are doing. If they are here legally then I say more power to them, they have as much right to be here as anyone else.

However, we make up a country that can't even take care of its own who desperately need our help and as such we have no business spending money on people who are actively engaged in criminal behavior.

But in states with large illegal immigrant populations, the math may not work, especially if lawmakers don't expand Medicaid, the joint state-federal health program for the poor and disabled.

SAY WHAT??? I thought ILLEGAL immigrants actually are a net benefit to the economy? (think: sarcasm). So, the notion that it will be financially beneficial to grant rewards and special for ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS is actually A BOLD FACED LIE!!

When the reform has been fully implemented, illegal immigrants will make up the nation's second-largest population of uninsured, or about 25 percent. The only larger group will be people who qualify for insurance but fail to enroll, according to a 2012 study by the Washington-based Urban Institute.

SAY WHAT??? Just imagine if our elected officials actually enforced U.S. law (which they are legally mandated to do), we wouldn't have to fund the healthcare for these ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS!

Without a Medicaid expansion, the influx of new patients and the looming cuts in federal funding could inflict "a double whammy" in Texas, said David Lopez, CEO of the Harris Health System in Houston, which spends 10 to 15 percent of its $1.2 billion annual budget to care for illegal immigrants.

SAY WHAT??? Why haven't our elected leaders and the insufferable advocates for rewards and special treatment for immigration lawbreaking being honest about the catastrophic costs of ILLEGAL immigration!!!

Realistically, taxpayers are already paying for some of the treatment provided to illegal immigrants because hospitals are required by law to stabilize and treat any patients that arrive in an emergency room, regardless of their ability to pay. The money to cover the costs typically comes from federal, state and local taxes.

SAY WHAT??? Why are we funding them-- I thought ILLEGALS were a net benefit???!!!

California, which is home to the nation's largest population of illegal immigrants, spent an estimated $1.2 billion last year through Medicaid to care for 822,500 illegal immigrants.

The New Jersey Hospital Association in 2010 estimated that it cost between $600 million and $650 million annually to treat 550,000 illegal immigrants.

And in Texas, a 2010 analysis by the Health and Human Services Commission found that the agency had provided $96 million in benefits to illegal immigrants, up from $81 million two years earlier. The state's public hospital districts spent an additional $717 million in uncompensated care to treat that population.

If large states such as Florida and Texas make good on their intention to forgo federal money to expand Medicaid, the decision "basically eviscerates" the effects of the health care overhaul in those areas because of "who lives there and what they're eligible for," said Lisa Clemans-Cope, a senior researcher at the Urban Institute.

SAY WHAT???--- Why are U.S. Citizens and LEGAL immigrants being forced to SUBSIDIZE THE MASSIVE AND CATASTROPHIC COSTS OF ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS????!!!???

WHY ARE WE BORROWING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM CHINA TO FINANCE THIS UNACCEPTABLE FAILURE TO ENFORCE U.S. LAW??????

A GOVERNMENT WHICH REFUSES TO ENFORCE ITS OWN LAWS IS INTOLERABLE!!!

What is racist about go back to your own country? There has to be a legal procedure for entering a country and living and working there. We have that and people who choose to ignore the rules and illegally enter our country should not be getting a free ride on my taxes. Illegal immigrants get better care than I do half the time. Sorry, I have no sympathy. Legally come to my country. I have fought too hard and too long defending it to watch it get torn to shreads and destroyed by illegal entry and homesteading. Absolutely nothing racist except for the racist who sees it in every word spoken that is not of their own reasoning.

Someone explain to me why I should care as a LEGAL TAXPAYER that an illegal immigrant cannot get FREE health-care when I have to pay for mine?

America may be free, but we are collectively the dumbest mother @!$%#ers on this planet. 16 trillion in the hole and we continue to be taken advantage of by illegal immigrants willingly by both political parties. We arnt even considering educational costs, among other social programs that have been infiltrated by these invaders. America will be crushed by her own stupidity

It's way past time that all law abiding legal American citizens stand up and shout "HELL NO" to all the freebies given to the illegals sucking the life out of this country. We all need to start writing, calling, emailing, dropping in on our elected officials and demand that immigration laws be enforced, that there be NO AMNESTY for law breakers and that the Mexican government needs to start taking responsibility for their OWN people!!!!! No more pity party for the poor danged abused illegals!!!! Let them fight for change and reform in their own country. Let their country take care of the medical needs. It's SO WRONG that American citizens go with out helath care yet our government foots the bill for illegals care. THIS HAS TO STOP!!!!! Vote out politicians that won't stand up for America and Americans but pander to mexicans to get their votes!!!!!!!

Blowbamasucks--actually, Obamacare SPECIFICALLY says illegals cannot join in and buy their insurance (with subsidies)

That was Obama's plan all along--get Obama care passed, and then point to the illegals and say--"see, they cost so much for us to provide health care for, that if we gave them AMNESTY they could pay for their OWN insurance."

Amnesty for illegals has ALWAYS been part of his agenda.

The bottom line is we are drowning in debt and I do not feel we should go further into debt to be paying for the medical care of someone who is breaking the law and is here illegally. Besides if we cut off medical, then housing and food stamps, make it illegal to rent to illegals they all go home and our unemployment number should go way down. But to force this to happen we need to cut off all unemployment extensions, if jobs are out there you should be working.

Kornfed has been in hiding since the election - I heard he has been working overtime to pay off all the bets he made that Mittens would get elected.

Conservatives wonder why they can't get the vote of Latinos (Hispanics), man, are they dumb. Latinos are mostly conservative Catholics too.

I bet Native Americans wished they had had all of these fancy immigrant regulations.

Latinos will make up the majority of the US population very soon - just in time to stick it to conservatives when they need Medicaid most. You reap what you sow.

JP-- Surely you're not implying that American Latinos are seeking for American citizens to finance (through borrowering from China) the massive costs of ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS. I would think that any such characterization should be insulting to American Latinos!

Patches--sorry, but your so called "native Americans' ALSO came here from someone else and didn't ask permission. And most of them didn't even think they OWNED the land they lived on. Regardless, when the initial immigration the the 'western world' was occuring, this was NOT a country, but for nearly 250 years, we HAVE been a LEGALLY recognized NATION, with rules, and laws. And we have a RIGHT, under our government, to LIMIT who and how many people come here now.

And here's the kicker--you BET Latinos will soon be one of the largest groups in the US--BUT--(and here is the IRONY) around the WORLD the fastest growing population (that is immigrating to other countries) is MUSLIM. It is estimated that LONG before the US is a Latino majority country, EUROPE will be under Sharia Law.

How do you suppose the LATINOS will feel about opening our borders WIDE for unlimitted immigration to MUSLIMS? Because I GUARANTEE the Hispanics will not like having the country taken over by THAT group of foreigners.

Who's the racist NOW?

It is time for the government to do something about the illegal immigrants.... either round them up and ship them all back to whatever country they came from or give them amnesty. If they opt for amnesty they can register all the immigrants, who can then get jobs and healthcare through their employers (hopefully). This would help with the rising costs of healthcare for everyone.

The government needs to raise the fines on these large companies that refuse to participate in group insurance plans. I have heard of one major corporation is going to pay the fines (and drop all insurance)because it is cheaper than providing insurance, that is just wrong the fines should be double or triple what insurance would run them per employee! (The CEOs and top execs have cut everything to the bone as is, and sure don't want their huge slaries and bonuses impacted!)

I thought Texas wanted out of the union. Let them go.

A society is measured by how it treats those that are less fortunate. I do not for one minute believe those of you who, by only a chance of fate were born in this country, and if you had been born in Mexico, would not try to do the same for yourself and your children. It takes a serious personality disorder akin to that of a sociopath to lack the conscious to understand something as simple as caring for children. God help all of you who do not understand this, and God help your children.

Do you know what angers me? I live in Arizona. There is a able bodied male Caucasian who lives in my neighborhood. He moved here from Chicago four years ago. At that time he was able to sign up for food stamps and Medicaid. The law has since change, but he is "grandfathered" in. He is an egomaniac who refused to re-educate, and refused to take a job that pays $8.50/hour. He has the same attitude those of you posting on here have about illegals and health care. I have that attitude about him. Far too many Caucasian will not do the job, or take the wages so many illegals will take. They think they are above it. Shame on those of you who refuse to take care of a child's health care needs regardless of immigration status. You are no better than this man. You, and he, and so many like you are the problem in this country!

getreal-3945171, you are way too nosey

I live in Arizona, Phoenix, and all I see are illegals, and yes you can tell the difference, its called respect..and you can call if from a mile a way. The ones who are here legally are very proud and participate in American events, not just rallys downtown for more illegal "rights".

I'm sorry, but if they can't come here legally they don't belong here. Now before anyone calls me racist, I'm hispanic. My grandparents came here legally. They got their green cards, they worked hard and got social security cards, paid taxes and retired. One recently passed away an American citizen. If they can do it so can others. There is very little excuse to be here illegally.

GET REAL FOLKS...ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL.

"Anchor babies" should be documented as "FUTURE US CITIZENS", be sent back to their home country and be allowed to return as a citizen upon reaching age 18. They may then join the military, work in a hospital or do community service for 2 years minimum, if they can not find regular employment within 6 months of re-entering this country. Once established, they should be allowed to "sponsor" their parents and/or siblings for entry into this country.

It is a real shame that we refuse to enforce existing laws to send illegal immigrants back home with the children they brought with them. Don't cry that "the children didn't intend to come here", no the parents did and dragged their kids with them...sorry the crimes of the parents...etc, make the kids illegal too...SORRY.

What about the jobs they do that most of our citizens won't do? Well, if you're out of work, we've got a job for you. Doesn't pay much, but since the state no longer subsidizes "illegals", nor will they be giving you unemployment benefits, they will augment your income to at least minimum wage or better...health care provided too.

When did it become "legal" to be "illegal"?

Gil, as soon as they broke our laws in crossing illegally, or when overstaying the permission to visit our country they were granted.

When they visit the clinics, they should all be given a large injection of Draino, and kicked out.

Where is Monseeno ?, I always liked his input.

Hmm... ICE will arrest the doctors. Remember that OBAMA is pro illegal immigrant.

It's amazing, isn't it. that so many people commenting here (not all, thank goodness)... cannot define the word "illegal."

"Illegal" translates to"law breaker." If these people from other countries want to move to the U.S.A., they have procedures that are in our American LAW they must abide by before plopping themselves and their multi-offspring here.

There is a general ignorant idea that follows them here... "anchor babies" which is totally incorrect as they, the illegal parents, misuse constantly... yet, the social workers to which they apply for the spectrum of welfare benefits are not informed/educated about that specific issue themselves. And too many of them do not check citizenship of the applicants.

The child is the citizenship of the parents. Period.

In fact, that is the root of one of the several controversies regarding our nation's existing prexy. His birth father was not a U.S.A. citizen. However, since his Mom was, presumably, a citizen here the argument is made that it is her citizenship that is germane.

And yet, she was wed twice to non-citizens. She raised her child after a divorce from his birth father, but married a second husband who also retained his non-American citizenship. Additionally, the individual to which I refer was not only living in a foreign country, (a Theocracy btw) during the formative years of childhood, but his autobiography shows a sincere influence by his step-father.

We here in the United States have gone into astronomical debt trying to support its own citizens as well as those not legally living here. We cannot support the world.

The fact is that we cannot ignore the law-breaking influx of more than 30,000,000 people here illegally, living off the fat of the land to which they do not belong. This must surely reveal that "the kindness to others" who break our laws, is making it impossible for our own country to survive. at all.

Charity begins at home, does it not? Do we not care for our own families first?

Here's a novel approach....If a hospital chooses to treat an illegal for every cough, cold, splinter...whatever it may be, let the hospital that chooses to treat said illegals absorb the cost, or, better yet, sue the non-paying illegals instead of forcing all the legalized citizens of the United States to bail out them out...plain and simple. Cruel, maybe...but us taxpayers are just plain sick of it.

One--that would be GREAT if the Supreme court hadn't already said no hospital can turn a person way from its ER just because they can't pay. :(

You can stabalize them, arrange transportation to another hospital, and bill them later.

Side note-My wife works in a hospital, if you cannot pay...you're good. They literally have a full floor for this sort of case. Not my judgement but fact, mostly drug addicts and homeless.

On another note-immigration. What a touchy subject with so many different variables, gender, age, personal history. So many different heart strings or the opposite to be pulled.

One idea of so many- As a christian, we need to help all, but how do we weed any "bad" persons from the abundance of individuals who are desperately fighting for the smallest glimpse of positive light? Unfortunately we cannot. Mexico and it's South American cousins that make up "Hispanics" are also responsible for the most brutal terrorism upon it's people that the US has ignored. By the way, it's spilling into the US. THE QUESTION-Do we help 100 "safe" immigrants if that means we let 1 or 2 criminals step on American soil? This is a catch 22 given the shootings and such in the country. Raises many other questions about our safety from our own people.

This should be handled in a case by case business...We have to shut down illegal immigration until we can have any sort of management.

When did it become "legal" to be "illegal"?

Hmm... yeah great incentive to come here, get treated and then get a free ride back.

Once you stop treating and the word will spread, they'll stop coming.

If Arizona can't ask a person stopped during the commission of a crime of their immigration status, just how the heck can we get hospitals come forth with that information---they will cite HIPPA and all will be protected. Just blows my mind.

Of course they are going to cite HIPPA because the people at the hospitals and clinics do not want to end up in prison for up to 10 years or pay up to $250,000.00 in fines per incident. I am not saying I agree with HIPPA in the case of illegals, but it is enforced pay the Federal Government. By the way I also don't think we should pay for illegals to have multiple children here, but we do everyday. Yet we won't pay for them to have a tubaligation or vasectomy. We just keep adding more and more of their children on to Medicaid.

Dida--heres the reality--My home town of only 20K citizens, has a sizable illegal population (we are the victims of a TYSON Plant with its accompanying CAFO's, who HIRE the illegals). In 2005, my father was diagnosed with Alzheimers, and over the next 5 years was in and out of the ER, and EVERY time I'd get called to come fill out his paper work so that the hospital could get EVERY penny of HIS Medicare, Medigap insurance, and his personal deductable. So while he was sitting 'confused' in the ER, I'd be sitting there filling out the financial papers (and he VOLUTEERED at that hospital for 40 years!) and at the next window over in the finanical office, a Hispanic person who was sent there by the ER, would only have to say THREE words--"No Puedo pagar", and would not have to fill out ONE paper, show ANY ID for the patient, or anything.

Of course, I complained, and was told that from long experience, EVEN if they paid for a translator to come help a non English speaker fill out the paper work, they VERY seldom gave real names, or addresses, NEVER had any insurance, and NEVER paid one penny of any bills that were sent out.

So the hospital just quit TRYING, and gave up.

Meanwhile, my poor dad, on one occasion, having fallen and cut his head and arm, was sitting in a wheel chair in the ER, confused because of the Alzheimers, and shock from his injury, and there were 4-5 hispanic kids, dancing around his chair, shouting at him in Spanish, and taunting him. To that poor old man, they might as well have been slavering pit bulls, so frightened was he. And their PARENTS? Were sitting across the waiting room ignoring the exploits of their little 'darlins'. Imagine their surprise when I yelled at the kids, and then went over and yelled at the PARENTS in SPANISH (yup--I lived for a summer in Mexico, and another in Nicaragua, legally, I might add).

None of these people were noticably injured, but one was coughing. I'm sure they were there for free cough meds.

And on other visits to the ER, I over heard groups discussing what to do if a car wreck victim came in with a cop in tow, and which way they should run to avoid draw the cop's attention.

If Andy Cuomo, Governor of New York State, runs for president do not vote for him, he is demanding a scholarship program for illegal immigrants. He hopes this will gain the votes of the Latino-American voters.

Hell,rick perry here in Texas wants the same thing. God help us all if this fool runs for president again. The democrats feel sorry for them. The republicans want the cheap labor. And the American people are left holding the bill for everything.

And UpstateNY2.... there are increasing questions about the citizenship of the many people who voted, including non-English speakers.

One of the requirements of Naturalization (voting in any of our elections is permitted only to legal citizens of the United States), is the ability to read, write, and speak English. And that means able to speak coherently and understandably; ditto reading and writing our language.

Anyone who cannot speak English is not a citizen of the United States. Period.

This is the only "profile" which is legal and non-discriminatory... the Language Profile. Not color. Not race. Language.

I object strenuously against the idiocy of mailing in votes. It is much too easy for aliens here illegally to get someone who can speak English to phony the name on any ballot. But I support equally strenuously voter vehicle pick-up from their homes for handicapped citizens.

We may vote regardless of Race, Creed, Color... but from the establishment of this nation, we are required to be citizens, not visitors, not temporary workers on special permission to work in their area of expertise here and even that for only long enough to finish the job under contract.

The activist organizations like La Raza and Mecha unfortunately do not agree with that. Our members' Civil Rights they scream applies to them. Does it? It's our law, yes. Of us citizens. We had to earn our rights, via Naturalization or our Legacy... our legitimate Legacy.

Well I scream right back at them: Our citizens' rights prevail here. Go home to your native country and work there for democracy if you want the pluses democracy provides. We fought for our rights here and we pledge allegiance to our flag.

Go home, those who have no right to come to our country and live off what we worked and fought for... and fight for your ideals where you came from. If you have any ideals, that is, besides a hand out for a free ride.

You got all that absolutely right!!!!! Some ideals that have. Break into somebody elses country and scrounge up all that you can, show no loyalty to that country and send as much money as you can back to the country you came from. In the meantime trash as much of that host country as you can and drive out as many legal citizens as you can ought the area you picked to squat in!!!!

The sad truth is my wife immigrated here when she was three months old with her parents. They came because during the Vietnam war they fought for us, her parents went behind enemy lines and brought our pilots that were shot down back across enemy lines. At the time we promised them if they would help we would guarantee to pull them out with us if we lost the war. We pulled out and left them there. After the communist won they went on a killing spree and killed over half of her people and the others fled the country, most live in camps now and some still live in the jungles all these years later on the run.

But you know what, they waited and came over here with a legal visa. They never crossed under a fence or over a wall, they said farewell to their families knowing they would most likely never see them again. Now contrary to myth, they did not receive any tax free status, they never were given a car or any type of benefits, instead they lived with relatives that came over here before them crammed into a small house with many children. The mother worked three and four jobs and the father was sick and ended up dying from prior injuries from the war. But the mother taught those children to study, to learn English and to be thankful they were here and had a chance to make something out of themselves.

The mother still works two to three jobs although the children are grown up (she is still paying off debts from raising the children by herself), but she is thankful that her family is safe. They do not teach their children to live off the government, in fact they teach it is shameful. Instead they help with missions to help new people immigrating over here, and all her children are grown up now and working professionals.

This is what we need more of in this country, but sadly the rest of the people have been told that they can not get anymore visas because of the illegal immigration problems in this country. So instead of bringing over people that will contribute we allow people to sneak in that drain our county, state and federal money for free medical, lodging and food. It is very sad when people here illegally are given priority over people who would love this country, be thankful and contribute. Instead we have people that I watched drink and dance outside my business on 9/12 because they said we had the attacks coming, when we went out and told them then to get the he// out and go back to their mud huts the police were called and we were told to leave them be, they had their rights. I guess my in-laws are right, illegals are given more rights then citizens now-days. You break the law and are a citizen you get arrested, break it and are here illegally you get amnesty.

sadly--despite the requirement of naturalized citizens being able to read and write English, the fact is, it is VERY easy to get around that by memorizing the questions, very few of which are even asked.

And if you are an elderly person, that requirement can also be WAIVED.

Kate I have often wondered the same, why don't they spend the same amount of energy making their own country better, and I'm not just talking about the neighbors to the south.... all who come here seeking education, health, and employment. Things are certainly getting to the point where our system can no longer educate, heal, or employ the world. I'm all for a multi-cultural USA, as that's what we were started as. It's just time to call it a day and put our own welfare recipients (whether they WANT to or NOT) to work in the fields - and IF they don't want to, then no more welfare...... nough said.

I could not agree more Kate, well spoken.

History is filled with victorious stories of revolution where the people rose up and said enough, can they not do the same at home?

Now is the time for all US citizens to do just that....billions and billions of our tax dollars going to other countries and now Washington is only talking about medicare....bunch of cr--

Our tax dollars going to illegals and their anchor babies...anchor babies get food stamps, free medical, rent subsidies, and many other benefits which only benefits the illegals. The laws need to be changed whereas babies born to illegals in this country are not citizens.

I AGREE...WHEN ILLEGALS SHOW UP AT THE ER OR CLINICS, AFTER THEY ARE TREATED CALL ICE AND DEPORT THEM. They got this (oops can't say that) president re-elected...who should have been out years ago.

The USA needs a president who is for US citizens, not a popularity contest. What is inside trading? Is giving illegal kids (special treatment) in this country a chance to work and stay in the US for two years unjust enrichment for Obama? Knowing the outcome of an executive decision on the part of the president (see previous sentence) - could that be as bad as inside trading?

The other choice for President was the Republican, the party of the rich business owners who provided the jobs for the illegals at their factory farms, chicken factories, and construction companies so that they didn't have to pay fair, decent wages to American workers; Oh, and not only that, the Republican party tried for as long as they could to block health care reform so that the Emergency Rooms were the only place that the poor, and the illegals could get access to health care. They were in a win-win situation during the 'boom' years, hard workers, working for slave wages, and the 'rest' of us Americans picking up the health care costs for their 'employees'. We are living in the Capitalistic world that the Republicans helped create. Now what?

QueZen--I DO hope you do not believe that ONLY republican owned companies hire illegals? Or that there are no rich DEMS who abuse the poor?

Check out a list of the richest members of Congress. In the top 25, only ELEVEN are pubs.

And some of the most abusing companies out there were started by DEMS.

Plenty of blame to go around, but the fact is, it is NO excuse to point at one party and use blaming them as an excuse for CONTINUING to condone lawbreaking.

One of my mom's 'favorite' sayings was "if Joey jumped off the garage roof, would that make it ok for YOU to do it TOO?

Ironic you come to this story to bash Obama considering we've seen more deportation of illegal immigrants in the last 4 years than any 4 before that. If you stop trying to make this an "Obama" divide or a "liberal" divide, I think you'll find a lot more well-rounded support for the notion that we really shouldn't be paying for the healthcare of illegal immigrants.

we've seen more deportation of illegal immigrants in the last 4 years than any 4 before that.

George W. actively courted the Hispanic vote (including speaking in Spanish at rallies), and didn't do anything to reduce the chances of getting the votes of legal Hispanic families who were harboring illegals. If your were from Europe or Canada during his or his father's tenure, you needed to pack your bags. (I had a co-worker who had cousins from England who were deported for over-staying their visas.)

we've seen more deportation of illegal immigrants in the last 4 years than any 4 before that.

George W. actively courted the Hispanic vote (including speaking in Spanish at rallies), and didn't do anything to reduce the chances of getting the votes of legal Hispanic families who were harboring illegals. If your were from Europe or Canada during his or his father's tenure, you needed to pack your bags. (I had a co-worker who had cousins from England who were deported for over-staying their visas.)

Finally a voice of reason. This isn't a Democrat or Republican problem. It's America's problem. After world war two Eisenhower rounded up every illegal alien and shipped them back to their country of origin. That's what we should do.

It seems to me that the most educated states voted for Obama whereas the states with the least educated voted for Mittins. Also states that receive the most government money as compared to what they pay also voted for Mittins. Kind of tells you something doesn't it.

Illegal is illegal whether it be immigrants, robbers, murderers or Wall street thieves. The law should be upheld or changed.

Hanko37

Seems to me that the states with the highest number of Illegal Aliens and anchor babies voted for Obama.

Sorry about the accidental double post.

Didn't care much for Hanko's bs either but there is absolutely NO NEED for overt rudeness and swearing. You can make a valid point without it.

THERodney,We the people are paying for illegals emergency room visits.Somebody's employing illegals otherwise they would not be here in the U.S.The farmers,the food processing companies,construction companies etc. should be paying for their illegal employees health care costs since they are the ones benefiting from cheap labor to boast their bottom line.

cleaning lady, so it is the fault of someone paying them to work?? What delusionyou have.

so it is the fault of someone paying them to work?? What delusion you have.

"At fault" is an probably an improper term to apply, but if you don't think illegal immigration would be a lot less of a problem without people willing to employ them, then you're the delusion one I'm afraid.

At fault is the lack of cajones on our government to enforce immigration laws, then suing the states who are trying to take matters into their own hands.

Oh, we can't deport the illegals, the legal latino population might get angry!!!! Who cares, the legal latino population should be ticked at the illegals anyway.

I feel sorry for them, but it's called "lack of planning and forethought". You break in (yes, break in, as a criminal) to this country without any plan of becoming a citizen, and mooch off our taxes with free healthcare... I feel sorry for them, but I can't support them. Send their butts back to where they came from.

See how that cheap meat, vegetables, maid service, painter, etc., just got more expensive?

Really Robbie? Have your services and food gone down in the past decade, since illegals took over those jobs? Mine hasn't...

Deport, don't support

if you don't think illegal immigration would be a lot less of a problem without people willing to employ them, then you're the delusion one I'm afraid.

Maybe you could list that as the sole reason a couple of decades ago, but not now. In this decade, you have to blame the easy access to social services that include free housing, food debit cards, free health insurance, free day care, free public schools even if the children don't speak a word of English, free outreach programs that provide free rides to doctors and grocery stores...

There was a time you never saw an able bodied Hispanic during the week day unless he was occupied on a job. Now you can't bulldoze your way through them on the street corners, sidewalks, sitting on cars, laying on the grass... they don't have to work to be in the US any more, they just have to get here.

Angela - Folks like you think that having illegals do the work keeps prices cheap. Obviously you didn't understand my comment. Employing illegals comes with hidden costs - education for their children, health care, housing, etc. We pay for those services with our taxes. Thus, what seems cheap truly isn't.

Since illegals began taking jobs in our slaughterhouses, hotels, etc., I haven't seen prices go down. I rarely purchase meat, but the last time I did, it wasn't drastically less than what I paid for it in the 1980s when Americans held those jobs. The cost of staying in a hotel certainly hasn't decreased. The salary savings certainly isn't being passed on to the consumer (who is also footing the bill for the illegals). I suspect that's part of what's funding those huge corporate executive bonuses.

Ah sorry, your sarcasm didn't translate well over the computer.

You'd be shocked by all the people who don't get that, I don't happen to be one of them. Especially since I live in Los Angeles, CA.

I like that!!! Deport, don't support!!!!!!

A work permit should only be issued if they can show ability to pay for healthcare and other necessities.

If you believe that a person who comes to this country illegally and takes benefits meant for legal citizens should be deported back to where they came from then you are a racist. That has to be about the stupidest thing I've heard. Why should anybody pity lawbreakers, those that won't stand up and fight to change their own country into a better place, that feel free to disrespect the nation they come to mooch off of, that take services, benefits, housing etc. that tey are NOT entitiled from legal Americans that need those things etc..??? I guess you call those having a pity party for these theives liberals, or the new progressive party???

Jimboza--AMEN to that! My son tried to immigrate to Australia about 7 years ago, and in addition to having to pass a VERY stringent medical exam by a doctor THEY sanctioned (and the testing et al cost over $800!) and fingerprints for an FBI check, letters from local law enforcement that he was not in any trouble (not even non-prosecuted), etc. but he ALSO had to have a CITIZEN of Australia who was willing to put about $37K in an escrow account for two years IN CASE he got sick or unemployed, to repay Australia for the expenses he might incur. (Oh, and if that had happened, his visa would have expired.

and after jumping throuh all those hoops, including a nearly $2K application fee, he was turned down because they had REACHED their Quota of potential immigrants from the US for that year.

He WAS, however, invited to re-apply the next year--BUT that would have meant ALL that would have had to be re-done, and all costs paid again.

That's the way it SHOULD be here.

zupercram,I agree with the single payer system as long as it is run like the one France has.

just a cleaning lady - And that would be why the World Health Organization has ranked France's healthcare #1 in the world in its 2000 World Health Report. The US is ranked #37. (Pg 152 of the report, 161 of the .pdf)

zuper, wonder why so many from other countries come here for their healthcare. Maybe you could go to France if you get sick.

Maybe you should ask Palin why she went to Canada for her healthcare, hjack?

@hjack: There many people who do go to France for their health care. The health care in France is first class. Unfortunately, too many illegals slip into France and demand health care and other social services. This is a big expensive problem for France.

GTR5--you DO realize that France's much vaunted health care system ONLY provides very basic health care, with limits on how much, and long lines? they just permit those who can afford to to buy INSURANCE, too--to cover the more expensive stuff.

England just made the same thing legal there, since they were having trouble finding doctors who were willing to spend 8-12 years in school, plus the bucks, to work hard after the finally get out to barely make ends meet. All the really smart doctors in England switch to specialized medicine like plastic surgery so they can still get a good return on their long investment/hard work in Med school.

MOmaid: Thanks for that comment. Ha. You do realize that I, as a retired American GI have lived in France for the past 25 years and have French Social Security (medical insurance). You are totally wrong. It takes me 2 minutes to get to my doctor's office. The medical care here is really first class, no long lines, no restricted services or care. This is nothing like the English system which is terrible. The English come here for care. The French Medical system provides the very best medical care for patients and it is not a question of insurance costs or expensive procedures. The French doctors here are excellent and take care of their patients. That is why France is rated as number one in health care. You are wrong!

I mean we would get the exact same treatment in Mexico right.

When I was on vacation there a few years ago, my son got sick and yes the Physician spoke english.

TamL, there is a big difference between being on vacation in Mexico with the proper travel documents, and illegal aliens sneaking over our border and then expecting free health care and other benefits that our own countrys' citizens can't get. What difference does it make that the doctor spoke English? THAT is your arguement?? Really weak.

TamL,

Unless your son got FREE medical care while being in the country with an expired visa, you are comparing apples to tomatillos.

You would NOT get the same treatment in Mexico. You'd be in a jail cell, and you wouldn't get anything free there either.

If you look at the comment I was referencing, you would realize your reponse makes 0 sense. And yes he did receive free medical care, he has dual citizenship until he is 18, so he qualifies for their national healthcare.

for one am quite willing to pay for public services in the language of your choice, and am all for waiting for 2+ hours at the emergency room when my son has an asthma attack because there are 8 people in front of me who speak only Spanish and are there for a cold. It's least we can do, I mean we would get the exact same treatment in Mexico right.

Uh someone has to escort "the children." Thus creating another loophole for illegal aliens to jump through...

Illegal immigrants should only get urgent care not routine care

I agree with that statement (I know a lot of you will not believe that but its true) , unless they can pay for routine care out of pocket as I would have to if I didn't have insurance. The problem is, they will (and are in some places) over burdening our Emergency Services for treatment that should be routine.

Why should they get any care? Who pays for this?

jimboza::::Why should they get any care? Who pays for this?

Three guesses and the first two don't count.

I'm not a fan of illegal immigration myself, but personally I kind of like the idea behind the Dream Act. Sure, technically no illegal should be allowed to stay, but rationally we're not going to get rid of everyone who is here illegally, so why not add a little extra incentive for the ones who are here to at least be good, productive, educated members of society?

Why should we allow illegals to take the place of an American or LEGAL kid in college, when they won't be allowed to work in the United States? The Dream Act is a way around LEGAL immigration, it's at the expense of YOUR kid and YOUR future.

Why? Because Obama is pro illegal immigrants and has stated so publicaly numerous times.

my husband (boyfriend at the time) was out of work and didn't have insurance. he had an accident and had to be hospitalized and have surgery. 3 days later he was out. we asked about medicaid to help pay since we didn't have the money. they denied him. so how are all these illegals' getting away without paying? we had a 30,000 medical bill that we could not pay. we had to make payments the best we could. something needs to change. when our own citizens cannot even get medicaid to help pay, yet illegals do, that is not right.

Welcome to modern day USSA,Biscuits.

Matt--I have LIVED in Mexico and Nicaragua, (legally) and speak Spanish, and the first time I heard about the 'so called' "Dream Act" I TOO thought it was an ok IDEA. The problem is, every proposal I've seen of a DREAM ACT makes it to where an illegal (brought here involuntarily by their POS parents as a child) who is 29 YEARS old can get that status. that means that for 12 YEARS they have been here AS AN ADULT, and done nothing to 'get legal'. And since supposedly, these kids are 'fluent' in English, and graduated from HS, they COULD have gone back to their home country (of their parents) and applied to come here for COLLEGE, and gotten back in legally on a student visa, and gotten a COLLEGE degree. BUT--and this is a HUGE but--they would have to PAY for their education. INCLUDING out of state fees, those same out of state fees that MY American CITIZEN kids had to pay to go to school in states their parents didn't pay property taxes for years in. And that is the KICKER--they don't WANT to have to pay for their ecucation. They want it for FREE or very cheap.

And the kicker is, ALL supposed dream kids, IF they met the requirements, ALREADY have a 'job skill' that will be very valuable in their home country--which is speaking ENGLISH.

And PS, why on EARTH would a so called "dream kid" get to enable the POS PARENTS who brought them here, to stay?

The Dream Act, IF we were to have one, should ONLY be available if the 'dream kid's parents turn themselves in for deportation. And if there are 'anchor kids' also invovled, they should go back to the parents' home country until the anchor kid is old enough to come back legally as an adult--WITHOUT his parents.

And SHOULD (if the parents are so concerned) be BI-lingual at that point.

What part of ILLEGAL do you NOT understand?

I understand that it modifies actions, not people. If you have ever jay walked, driven above the speed limit, or used an illicit drug, would you like me to call YOU illegal? Calling people "illegal" dehumanizes them, and is a biased way to refer to the people CNN is trying to discuss.

They are living in this country illegally. Therefore everything they do here is illegal. I don't care how you take it the term holds true and I don't give a @!$%# how it makes you feel.

Nicole - If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....

How would you describe immigrants that have come to this country, illegally, from a multitude of other countries in a short headline? By the way, in the headline illegals isn't capitalized, it's not being used as a label for a group of people, rather a description of their immigration status.

Your logic doesn't hold, David. And ORGirl, I don't know what you mean; it does seem that the racism hiding shallowly underneath the term is behind your comment. "It?" QED.

Well it's certainly better than your NO logic Nicole...

Timoh, the point it that it is a shorthand with hateful, racist undertones. We all know what it means. If a headline was referring to proposed legislation that denied healthcare to who had been people convicted of drunk driving, say -- it wouldn't say "illegals." Although clunky, "unauthorized immigrants" is a more neutral term. Brevity shouldn't be at the cost of settling for biased language.

You are part of the problem, referring to human beings as "illegal."

If they were here LEGALLY, they wouldn't be called ILLEGALS. It isn't racist, it's about the RULE OF LAW.

"unauthorized immigrants" is a more neutral term.

So what? Why are you trying to hide the nature of their actions?

They have no one but themselves to blame, and you are doing them no favors.

nicole, if someone from canada is ilegally in the u.s. would you consider them an illegal alien? I would. If someone from china, or germany, or south africa is in the u.s. illegally would you consider them an illegal alien? I would. So quit that racist undertone cr@pola and get your common sense in order.

Oh noes, we're hurting their self esteem!

Small price to pay for free health care, wouldn't you say?

Nicole, you need to learn English language, dear. The meaning of the word illegal and the meaning of the word racist, and the meaning of the word hateful, besides others. Go learn them, then come back and try again.

Posting garbage for the rest of the world to see doesn't make you look smart or credible.

Scott mentioned it, there's no racism in the word or term "illegals." In the US, there are illegal immigrants from many countries, many cultures, many skin tones. The fact that you immediately label it racist points to your own mind being subconciously racist. If the first thing you think of is a certain skin color or ethnicity when you hear the word "illegal," in reference someones immigration, that is racism.

I'm not saying you hate or discriminate against people of any skin color or ethnicity, but it's still racism. It's not at all racist to call someone "illegal," if, they are living somewhere illegally.

Call them any ludicrous euphemism you fancy like ''unauthorized immigrants''; they are stil illegal aliens.

I am so sick of paying for illegal alliens.This is sickening, what part of illegal does the government NOT get? If we break the law, we go to jail. They come here, breaking the law, and we feed them, give them free medicall care, we even supply them with special teachers in every school, and taxpayers pay for every bit of it. The worst thing is, a legal citizen who looses their job, or can't earn enough to pay for these things, gets turned down for government (taxpayer} help. George Lopez ( and others ) insinuates that they plan to take over our country,they are well on their way, but they will break our banks first. Look at the shape of California ! Don't tell me that legal americans won't do the jobs they do. Bull. Send them all back where they came from. Insist that they follow the rules to become a citizen or make them leave.

newbeginings I agree totally. They should send the illegals (yes they are illegals) back to their own country. The jobs that they say americans wont do, make the lifer welfare recipient get off their lazy behinds and take those jobs or lose any handouts they are receiving. That would take care of two problems and the American would be paying their taxes and not sending their wages to Mexico or some other country. Another savings and the money would be spent in America and not some other country. Think of the savings to the American taxpayer to be rid of the illegals expense and the unnecessary welfare expense. I do not understand why illegals receive any handouts, free healthcare, housing, food stamps, if they are here to work then why arent they paying their own way? It is about time America stands up and closes their borders like other countries do. Deport "all" illegals. If they know how many then must know where they are so should be an easy task. Just try getting into Mexico, Canada and many other countries without a passport and if there illegally would be jailed. We have a legal way to become a citizen so send them back to do it the legal way.

Democrats are not the ones who signed some of the largest amnesty laws the U.S. has ever seen prompting the flood of illegals.

@janice22 We voted for the guy who has deported more illegals in the last 4 years than anyone else before him. What's more, he recognizes we're not going to get rid of all illegals anytime soon, so he is making sure we shift our focus toward getting rid of the worst ones first.

Thanks for the laugh Matttt. You are certainly delusional and clueless, you're also are funny.

@Angela how many accounts do you intend to get banned for violating COH?

you know Janice tu es una puta. I really doubt if you have ever read a book in your life. NOW CLOSE YOUR TRAILER DOOR AND SHUT UP

Wow, what an intelligent reply. Maybe you should go back to whatever barrio you came from?

And Matt, the Reagan response to the illegals in this country should certainly teach us that amnesty is NOT the answer to the future problems.

My point is that there every article about amnesty gets an overwhelming, bipartisan negative response in the forums. And yet people still vote for the democrats that are the very ones proposing and supporting amnesty for millions of illegals How do they justify that?

TamL, you call out Angela for her extremely mild response but say nothing about Dan calling me a whore? It's okay because it's in Spanish? Really?

I've never had one account banished, how many have you? Geez... and, I can cite, page after page, why everything Dan posted is BS, can you post ONE CITE backing him?.

Thank God Obama won again. I love my Pres He's the best this country has ever had. I'd vote for him again and again and again. Now all we need to do is get rid of all the old white clueless people in congress. America is a great country now.

Mexico is the 5th or 6th (depends on whose data) wealthiest country in the world. They just prefer for the US to provide welfare for their country. Heck, their government gives them maps and tips on how to make it across the border!

Paramed,

Stop your bull shi$ information. The Mexican government does not pass out maps. You are so full of it and all you want to accomplish here is to rile up some people with your BS information. The Gov in Mexico enough on their plates to be worring about handing out BS maps. Please, you sound like a moron...

911 loosechange, YOU are the one that sounds like a moron. That information IS correct, all you have to do is a wee bit of research. You can find it, and no, I am NOT going to do your work for you.

LOL, 911 loosebrain's posts consist mostly of insults and name calling. Rather pathetic.

Matt,

Just a little info for you, when people first come to this country they do not automatically become legal citiziens. You have to be a legal immigrant first. After you've been here a few years and learn the language then you can apply for citizenship. Like most people that comment here you are ignorant to the immigration laws and blur what ever comes up in your pea size brain. Educate yourself first before you start talking nonsense.....

EVERYONE likes their own people best.Not racism to say the truth

Your comments are exactly why President Obama made health care reform his priority. People are beginning to get it. It is too bad we did not get the Universal Healthcare that was initially proposed. Hospitals have been in trouble for at least 20 years. The costs are passed on to those of us with health insurance. I also do not understand why new hospitals being built have to look like a Trump building. Let's get back to the basics and take care of everyone. I do not believe that there are that many people out there who are moochers. Preventive medicine is the smart way to go. I thank God that my family has had health care coverage and that we continue to be blessed in so many ways. I wish for everyone to have the same blessings. Now, if we could only get the governors to come on board and quit acting like spoiled brats it could be accomplished.

Mom-1160381:::: I do not believe that there are that many people out there who are moochers.

You really are innocent of facts, aren't you? Go to any welfare office, hospital ER or better yet, you go ask your voter registration office what documentation one has to show in order to vote. As for MOOCHERS, well I have a bunch of them in my family, so I know the smell of one a mile away!

No care, just removed.

New York City isn't all of America it's just one city and it doesn't represent this country no city does.

They do not deserve anything! What country can we go to and get all these free services? NONE!!!