I think you missed the point...people like to f*ck. When contraception is available, this predilection doesn't result in unwanted childbirth. Religious conservatives are in a Victorian state of denial over the nature of human sexuality, and are thus the most likely candidate for unwanted, excessive, and needless childbirth.

Intelligent... - Everyone just take a break from having kids for awhile.

I would seriously suggest that, for the sake of the planet's dwindling resources, all nations of the world put a moratorium on human births for 30 years, most especially China, in order that future generations have a place to live when they get here. We are killing our only home. But this article is good news, at least for the U.S. I'm surprised to read this, and hope they know what they're talking about.

Now, what is there to be done about people like the Duggers who have...is it 20 kids now? Outrageous!

Or better yet, make it 50 years...that will solve the population problem good!

Birth rates are the true health of a nation. If the birth rate is low, then the nation is in poor shape. In fact our entire economy and taxation system, especially in terms on Social Security is predicated on birth rates either staying the same or increasing. This nation was at it's peak in the late 40's, 50's and 60's when birth rates were high. When birthrates drop, in 20-30 years time the taxes aren't there to support the previous generation in terms of retirement or to even maintain what they built. We have to continue to grow and expand otherwise we shrink. Every empire that has every existed, as soon as it stopped growing and expanding it fell into decline. We are at that point now. Make your choice.

This idea of not being able to feed, clothe and educated children because of the bad economy or whatever is completely erroneous. This nation has been in far worse conditions both at it's beginning, in the Civil War, in the Great Depression and in WWII than it is now. Children grew up fine. In fact some would say better than kids are now. Frankly I think children are spoiled. A little hardship would do them some good. It is through trial where you determine someone's or a nation's true character.

GBR COMPLETELY wrong. It's well established that developed nations have LOWER birth rates. There are many reasons for this, including that offspring do not die off so easily (so you don't need six kids).

Basic research will show you that lower birth rates point to a SUCCESSFUL society.

GBR - We have to continue to grow and expand otherwise we shrink.

I completely disagree with your comments. To where do you suggest we expand? Humanity has already peopled all the continents of the world, and is using up resources faster than the Earth can replenish them. The planet is gravely struggling to support seven billion people, heading rapidly toward the ten billion mark. We're killing the finite resources of this planet, without which we cannot survive. Can't you see this?

The bottom line is we have too many kids. We can't take care of the ones we have.

That is fear (lack of faith), not intelligence.

As a person who has experienced unemployment and under-employment, every time I think everything is about to cave in God provides.

DB - every time I think everything is about to cave in God provides.

That's nice for you, but what about personal responsibility?

Sorry, but its not that easy to adopt. And many children you think are "orphans", actually do have living family who eventually want them back.

Also, comparing children to puppies or kittens is just wrong. Children are human beings, and adopting a dog or cat won't satisfy someone's desire for a child.

I completely disagree with your comments. To where do you suggest we expand? Humanity has already peopled all the continents of the world, and is using up resources faster than the Earth can replenish them. The planet is gravely struggling to support seven billion people, heading rapidly toward the ten billion mark. We're killing the finite resources of this planet, without which we cannot survive. Can't you see this?

Well I wasn't particularly talking about humanity as a whole but more particularly about the U.S. However, humanity could expand off the planet if we actually put our minds to it.

JMartina - ...adopting a dog or cat won't satisfy someone's desire for a child.

So? Why do you think a desire to have a child should automatically be fulfilled? That 'child' very rapidly grows up to be an adult, no longer cute and cuddly, and needs food, water, housing, clothing, etc. etc., resources that are being used up. At this point in time, replacing more than yourself is selfish.

GBR COMPLETELY wrong. It's well established that developed nations have LOWER birth rates. There are many reasons for this, including that offspring do not die off so easily (so you don't need six kids).

Basic research will show you that lower birth rates point to a SUCCESSFUL society.

Yes and those weak kids that don't die off because they are saved by the health care system, breed and create more weakness. Then large amounts of genetic disease start popping up and the welfare system has to take care of them and we all have to prop it up. Then in a few decades after excessive spending and widespread corruption, we have massive austerity cuts, our economy falters and the nation goes into the tank. Then we start all over, have high birth rates again, rinse and repeat. And so every great empire dies.

Didn't you pay attention to Darwinian theory in science class? It applies to nations as well as ecosystems and organisms.

Maybe enough people have had it with the dying concept the American dream which is being taken away by the huge transference of wealth over the past 30 years. Why bring more people into a society where you can be a disposable pawn or cannon fodder for a system that doesn't represent your interests anymore ?

Thanks Reagan for destroying life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for the many, may you burn ever so brightly in the hottest part of hell.

When contraception is available, this predilection doesn't result in unwanted childbirth.

According to the　Centers for Disease Control 　(CDC), since 1973, roughly 50 million legal induced abortions have been performed in the United States

And JUST why do you expansionist dweebs think Mother Nature Put killer pandemics on this planet for, such as the black plague and, more recently, the spanish flu 1917-1918 when Earths atmosphers was LADEN with Killer flu virus destroying 70,000,000 PeopleTHEN. WHO and CDC Scientists are worried as a new and Certainly MORE DEADLY Pandemic is due what with H1N1, very Contagious swine Flu and H5N1, 70% Kill Rate Bird Flu and Worse Yet 95% Kill Rate Ebola which is here as the tame Reston Ebola in Virginia, But killed 5 People in Quick order at Yosemite, Ca. Why do you think All the Drug stores Are Pushing getting a combination flu shot Now? It ain't over 'till MomNature Sings Her Song...

Yes and those weak kids that don't die off because they are saved by the health care system, breed and create more weakness. Then large amounts of genetic disease start popping up and the welfare system has to take care of them and we all have to prop it up.

One good thing about Nazis is they tend to self-identify rather quickly.

Didn't you pay attention to Darwinian theory in science class? It applies to nations as well as ecosystems and organisms.

I think it's time for you to stop typing.

Was AIDS created as another attempt by governments to limit population control like the Syphilis situation that occurred in America?

What other control measures are used to control population growth???

One intangible way is the issuance of the CHILD SUPPORT LAW..

"LET'S INCRIMINATE BROWN PEOPLE FOR HAVING BABIES....""

CHild support Laws are a watered down way to prevent Brown people from having children that they rightfully deserve to have.
The "Social Model in America" is to keep Brown men out of work by not hiring them and allowing for this to be the main reason for incarceration to prevent them from having more children.

the government has already used methods like having secret syphilis programs and providing other disease to this community around the world in order to prevent their population from growing.

Now all of a sudden all of these new diseases are appearing from out of the blue during the height of the Age of Biotechnology.

I know for a fact that this was their intent starting many years ago and we want to know about all of the secret programs going on in this country and abroad that targets controlling the population of brown people in America and Africa.

"CHILD SUPPORT LAWS SHOULD BE ATTACKED WITH VENGEANCE"

Why????

No one should be imprisoned for having children.

Those who are being targeted never had a say in this situation and never signed into a contract to behave in the way that this law is written.

This is now a $500 Billion dollar industry that prays on BLACK & HISPANIC MEN in AMERICA and seeks to turn them into criminals although they do all in their power to be good dads.

We will peeellll away at layers of this law until it is based on individual situations that does not look to incriminate men for doing and being what is natural.
DADS....

As far as the population control programs that are still in play we will hunt you down and have our revenge on those who seek to cause harm to innocent civilians through use of placing bio engineered diseases within various populations.

This will occur in this life or my next, mark my word!!!!!

PEEL LAYER..

Why won't African countries allow for bio engineered foods to enter their countries????

Also because the Secret AIDS program that occurred in Africa...

Because of the reasons listed above and because they know about the secret programs that were done previously and the intent of these other governments....

Speechless @ Peel....... LMAO. Nobody gets put in jail for having babies, you get put in jail for not supporting them and making the rest of us do it for you....

"what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

Sorry UNC but this law is going to be attacked from soo... many angles that you won't just be"LYAO"

You are going to begin to open that little tiny brain of yours in order to think of the details of this argument.

I'm sure you are not a brown or mexican individual who has experienced the hatred that has been experienced by these groups.
Of course you will say this in order to protect the CHILD support industry. My passion is to take care of mine but, when you go into the court houses ran by this industry all you see are my people going to jail.

Take the rose colored glasses off and go and view some af the things that are actually occurring meaning that they are indeed FACTS....

You don't have to believe or even conceive any of this information.
But, my words are in an effort to prevent my people and other innocent individuals from being bullied by those in this industry.

You actually sound like you work for one of the courts or are receiving income to help lock up brown individuals for the corporate prison industry in this country.

The social model imposed on our people will get torn down and we will show that people like you and those alike aka "THE Republicans" don't have the intelligence to rule over our people.

QUESTION: what part of anything that I mentioned is not true????

Apparently all of it is true because your little lame comment only consisted of....

"YOU DON"T GO TO JAIL FOR HAVING BABIES"
You can't even provide any facts to debunk what i posted...
LOL...

I can make a documentary about how courts only go after minorities....
"take a camera to court and on all floors there are 98% blacks and Mexicans...""
The Proof Is In The Facts"

How about this....

SHAAAT UPP!!!!!!!

HHmmmm...

I just peeled his cap....

PLAYA....

This is not good news. Add to the low birthdate the millions of people in jail and disenfranchised by the justice system, the millions of people who've been deported along with the hundreds of thousands of their loved ones who followed and may decide not to come back, the millions of people whose minimum wage is so low they can hardly step outside their homes to do anything, the millions of unemployed and underunemployed, and it's easy to see how the US is depriving itself of a badly needed market that can participate and invest in the economy.
How I wish I could turned the clock back to the 90's.

GBR - We have to continue to grow and expand otherwise we shrink.

Sounds to me like a pyramid scheme.

Nothing can grow forever... even a super nova will eventually collapse ino a black hole...

NortheastVick wrote:

I just had a daughter in November. Her roots proudly go back to colonial days, and has famous descendants you have all heard of.

Wow! Your less-than-one-month daughter already has descendants?! Talk about a rapidly declining age of puberty.

You're exactly the kind of rocket scientist (sarcasm) who should not be breeding!

We've got to stop thinking about exponential growth forever. The planet is maxed out. Time for a different approach, like how do we sustain the people we have.

RUMMYTub hints at a serious problem.... Since those are alive live longer a decline in birth rates will cause a shrinkage in GDP.. Not enough YOUNG people in the work force.. Some of you guys don't understand that it is a real problem that can't be fixed quickly. If this trend continues this is what we have to look forward to:

In the last few decades, Japan’s social security budget has soared 15 percent, an increase of 1 trillion yen per year. 50 years ago, there were a dozen workers for every social security retiree. 50 years from now, there will just be one.

Complicating the issue, is Japan’s dismal birthrate. Young workers have increasingly become reluctant to start families, because of financial concerns. Women are putting off marriage altogether, worried it could tie down their careers. On average, Japanese women have 1.4 children. That number is 1.9 for U.S. women, according to the CDC.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/01/japans-population-to-shrink-nearly-a-third-by-2060/

The article we all are commenting on stated our birth rate has decreased from the 1.9 figure.. God help us. Our Nation is suffering a slow painful death and here on the vine.. you guys are cheering it on..

*****************Change Is What Life In The Universe Is ALL ABOUT*****************************

Nations Come and People Go..................................

Japan has some of the MOST restrictive immigration laws. If your great great grandfather was Korean and you yourself have never set foot in Korea or even speak the language you still are not allowed to be a Japanese citizen. Japan got and is getting what it deserved.

American will never suffer this fate because when we need fresh blood we can swing open the immigration door and many people continue to slip in the backdoor as it is right now as you yourself well know. Japan, being an island, is harder for Philippians and Malaysians to sneak into than for south americans to slip into the USA. Even in decline American still can draw forth some of the brightest and best minds from developing countries.

We need to correct Amendment 14 and than enforce our immigration laws of course that won't fix everything but it is a step forward. We need to do something to stop all these citizen babies and the families that follow them to the US and it makes no difference what country they come from. We need to start taking care of our country as it is in deep trouble. We can't keep supporting these people who back door the immigration laws. Just my opinion.

What we need is perestroika (restructuring)!!! In another article about a FBI raid on a Detroit library, people were commenting that Detroit was turning some areas back into farmland due to the decline and shrinkage of the city. Therefore, people could look forward to being able to feed themselves by growing their own food instead of depending on government assistance to buy and import food produced by someone else. Laws would have to be changed to be able to raise farm animals such as chickens in the city for extremely cheap eggs and food closer than a grocery store. Furthermore, if people could overcome their idiocy which might be the biggest obstacle to progress, we could have robots assisting and taking care of us instead of an over abundance of humans.

The same sad thuggish attitude nativists have been using since the turn of the 20th century. Irish, Italians, Poles, Jews, Chinese...it's all the same bigotry with the targeting recalibrated for the latest wave of immigration.

At least those immigrants learned English.

Doomsy- Immigrants from Mexico learn English at the same rate as previous immigrants. It will be OK.

My great grandma spoke German til she died. My grandma went on welfare briefly to save her family when my grandpa was in an eventually terminal workplace accident. My family are counter-examples to most of the Wingnuts stereotypes.

They have self control, in the form of contraception. It's amazing, don't you think, in states where this is available and education begins fairly early, that it works so well, and it's only in the knuckledragging core of the Bible Belt that this is such a problem?

Denial isn't self control, it's repression. Proper support and management of one's behaviour is far more effective.

What is "recreational" sex? When a trapeeze is used in the bedroom? Stop having "work" sex and everyone will be much happier........

So sex is only for making babies? Nothing to do with maintaining healthy marriages? If men don't get sex in their marriage or relationship, they will find it elsewhere - whether it be a prostitute, an affair, or in some unfortunate cases, an animal.

Or with inanimate objects.

Only immature, immoral, irresponsible, infantile men pursue sex outside the marriage. Far fewer women who don't get sex inside the marriage pursue it outside of marriage. Someone who cannot control their physical impulses cannot call himself an adult - or a real man or woman.

@GK - Naive alert!!!!

Tons of people go outside the marriage because, let's face it, getting laid is fun.

I wouldn't call them any of those names except maybe to say that they were opportunists. Marriage is a dead institution which is why about half the time it never lasts. Probably more though really. If it makes you sleep better at night to think people take it seriously, keep thinking that. Most people will cheat and some will get caught. I'd say more often than not they'll get away with it. In my experience women cheat more. Quite often actually. They tend to be more sly about it as well.

Unisex advice: At the end of the day, don't pour a lot of yourself into a marriage because likely there is another (or others) pouring themselves into the other half... lol

so you would rather have the world die from overpopulation where no one would exist?

She's called outlying data. She happened with fertilization drugs and semen.

outlying data? well there's a polite term for her.

There has also been a significant drop in the abortion rate.

Sex isn't a recreational activity, but the glue that maintains marriage and other committed relationships. Pregnancy is not 100% preventable in those contexts. So your choice is, a sexless marriage that WILL fail... or the unfortunate option that abortion could be necessary as a result of that 1-3% typical risk of contraceptive failure.

"Sex is not a recreational activity"? Beg pardon. I'm post-menopausal. Does that mean I can't ever have sex again? No sex for men with vasectomies? Women with tubal ligations? How about people who are sterile? No sex for them either? No sex for gays? The elderly?

Only young, fertile heterosexual couples can have sex and only for the purpose of procreation, is that it? "Honey, are you ovulating? We can't have sex unless you're ovulating!"

Think about that statement: "Sex is not a recreational activity." Bullfeathers!

P.S. ms. Fuke, Sex is not a recreational activity.

Maybe not how you do it. Everyone else has a blast. Should come over to the other side once, the water's nice.

True, the USA cannot solve the problems of the rest of the world. The USA should not be expected to take care of everyone else. Some of these countries need to start solving their own problems.

this post should be headlined.

Enter math... Foreign aid is a tiny little slice of the budget. Wouldn't make an impact anywhere. Seriously... tiny. Look it up. I don't have the energy or interest to teach you.

There is an interesting thing where in developing nations as you educate the women the birth rate drops.

I'm not convinced you read books, let alone know how. We've figure out that AIDS isn't only the "gay man's disease" already. Furthermore, I highly doubt that the number of gay people engaging in sex/marrying has contributed to such a drastic decrease in birth rates.

You could use an English class or two, my 10-year-old cousin can spell better than you.

Actually, China instituted a '1-child per family' policy over 2 decades ago. Their working-age population will be peaking in the next 10 years or so.

Well said, Domewars. Until we do a much better job as a society -- a global society -- in figuring out how to live sustainably rather than in constant "economic expansion" mode we cannot afford a growing world population. GDP will be moot if we continue to overpopulate and use up every resource.