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Subscribe to RSSIn 2011 the flu season was mild but U.S. health officials say it's unclear what this year will bring and are urging people to get vaccinated. The flu shot isn't for everyone, but is important for people who are six months and older, pregnant women and those with high-risk conditions. NBC's Dr. Nancy Snyderman reports.
Just about everyone is supposed to get a flu shot every year, and two groups are particular no-brainers -- pregnant women and health care workers. But new numbers released on Thursday show that fewer than half of pregnant women got vaccinated last year and just two-thirds of health care workers did.
Although they’ve been pushing flu vaccination hard for more than a decade, public health officials admit they are still finding it a hard sell. But it’s not necessarily resistance. It just may not yet be easy enough to get the vaccine. And recent mild flu seasons haven’t helped.
About 128 million people, or about 42 percent of the U.S. population, got immunized against influenza last year. Because flu viruses constantly mutate and evolve, people must get vaccinated with a fresh formula every year to be fully protected. This year’s vaccine protects against the three most common circulating strains.
The best vaccination rates are among babies aged up to 2, with nearly 75 percent vaccinated. That’s because babies make regular visits to pediatricians, and vaccinations are a routine part of those visits. And more than 63 percent of 2- to 4-year-olds were vaccinated last year. But just 29 percent of 18- to 49-year-olds had a flu shot.
Pregnant women are especially vulnerable to flu. Not only do they get sicker, because pregnancy suppresses the immune system, but the infection can lead to losing their babies. The vaccine also protects a woman’s newborn, who cannot get the vaccine until age six months.
“Influenza is five times more likely to cause severe illness in pregnant women than women who are not pregnant,” said Dr. Laura Riley of Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston and the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology.
But a CDC survey released Thursday showed that just 47 percent of pregnant women had a flu vaccine last year. If their doctors both recommended and provided the vaccine, nearly 74 percent of pregnant women got the shot. Just 11 percent of women whose doctor said nothing got immunized.
Even though doctors have been stressing for years that flu vaccines cannot give people the flu, a full quarter of the pregnant women who refused the vaccine said they believed it would infect them. Another 13 percent thought their babies were at risk.
“Pregnant women worry about everything,” Riley said. “We spend a lot of time in this country talking about you can’t eat this, you can’t eat that. It takes us a little while to get the message out about how efficacious (the vaccine) is. We are preventing a very severe disease potentially and we are protecting your baby.” Vaccination does not raise the risk of miscarriages or birth defects.
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A mild flu season last year and memories of the H1N1 pandemic that didn't turn out to be as serious as expected have made flu shots a hard sell to the general public.
Flu may be off many people’s radar because the last two years haven’t been especially bad, and because the 2009 H1N1 swine flu pandemic didn’t turn out to be as bad an initially feared.
Yet, 1,300 children died from H1N1 that year and about 100 U.S. children die every year from flu, half of them previously perfectly healthy, CDC says. The CDC estimates that anywhere between 3,000 to 49,000 people a year die from flu in the United States. A lot depends on the strains circulating.
“Flu is unpredictable. Just because we got off easy last season does not mean we will get off easy this season,” Riley said.
The other group that should have 100 percent vaccination is health care workers. The CDC data show that more than 86 percent of physicians are vaccinated, followed by more than three-quarters of nurses. But the numbers plummet to just half of workers in long-term care facilities, where patients are especially vulnerable to flu.
“I believe that the immunization of the health care provider community is both an ethical and professional responsibility,” said Dr. William Schaffner of Vanderbilt University in Nashville and the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases. “It’s a patient safety issue so that we do not transmit our influenza infection. When an outbreak strikes, we need to be vertical, not horizontal.”
As with the pregnant women, health workers were more likely to get vaccinated if it was easy for them. More than 78 percent of health care workers got immunized if free vaccine was made available for several days at work. And 21 percent of the health workers said getting flu vaccine was now a condition of employment. More employers should consider making it a requirement, said Litjen Tan of the American Medical Association.
This year, 135 million doses of flu vaccine will be available to the U.S. market. People can get vaccinated at pharmacies, at big-box stores, grocery stores, doctor’s offices and often at their places of employment. Most private insurance companies and Medicare pay for the whole cost of the vaccine.
And while the vaccines are not specifically formulated to protect against some new flu strains that a few people have caught from pigs, they may offer some help, health officials said.
So far, the three new variants identified this year -- H3n2v (the little v stands for “variant”), H1N1v and H1N2v -- don’t spread easily from person to person. Almost everyone infected has been close to pigs. One person has died from the new H3N2v virus, but everyone else has recovered. The CDC’s Dr. Daniel Jernigan says people alive in the 1990s have some immunity to the H3N2 version, and the new H1N1v is close to the strain that the current vaccine targets, although the protection is not perfect.
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I haven't even had a cold in several years. I'm not going to get a flu shot. Two years ago my doctor suggested I get the flu vaccine. I said no. Last year he didn't suggest it.
You can still catch a flu virus that isn't the targeted ones in the vaccine. The flu vaccine is at best a guess as to which strains they think are going to be a problem.
Nancy is such a lying piece of work. She makes the statement that the H1N1 virus took the world by surprise, two years ago. As if to say there was a problem. Yeh, it sure did, take the world by surprise, when it's expectations of mass pandemic proportions, never panned out. Nancy, do you really think that our memories are that short or do you think your continued lies are going to miraculously turn into truth? And, the statement that babies as young as 6 months should get the Flu shot is preposterous. Most parents are warned about giving their babies eggs before they are a year old. So, if people are warned about getting the Flu vaccine if they have egg allergies, how could you possibly say OK to inoculating someone who has never had eggs because their age predetermines a possible allergy? Once again stupidity triumphs over science. Nancy you are a mouthpiece for stupidity and hypocrisy. You are a disgrace. You may be all sweetness this year, but I do recall your intolerant and abusive statement from the past; "Just get your damn vaccine." That was a very sobering moment, for me, and your and other's potential for a future witch hunt, which you seem to be more than qualified for.
Health does not come from a "shot"!
Many people say they have or have had the flu, when, in reality, it is some other illness. Flu symptoms are quite specific, i.e. fever > 100.1, fatigue, body aches, possible headache and a dry cough. Some may have a sore throat. There is no vomiting, no diarrhea, no coughing up sputum, etc., although if you are lucky enough to develop pneumonia with the flu, you may indeed produce yellow sputum. These specific symptoms are adequate to diagnose flu during flu season, although physicians will frequently test for the virus with a nasal or throat swab, which should be performed as close to the beginning of symptoms as possible. If you didn't have a fever over 100, body aches and a cough, you didn't have the flu.
Although it has been mentioned here several times, once more won't hurt. The flu vaccine is a killed (inactivated) virus. Killed. Dead. It is not alive. It cannot infect you. If you indeed have THE FLU, you were exposed prior to receiving the vaccine or within a week to ten days after or you are one of the unlucky folks who get the flu despite being vaccinated, as no vaccine is 100% effective. Many years ago, flu vaccines were made with live viruses. The vaccine would expose you to a tiny amount of the actual flu virus and your body would make antibodies to that virus. The problem with that vaccine was that it actually could give you the flu, hence the sworn to be true stories of such. This is not the vaccine of today, so no one should be concerned that the vaccine that they receive will give them the flu. It is just not possible.
No Value in Any Influenza Vaccine: Cochrane Collaboration Study
http://www.gaia-health.com/articles301/000345-no-value-any-influenza-vaccine.shtml
It's amazing how many of you have NO idea what vaccines truly are or how they are theorized to work, let alone how toxic and totally ineffective they are at preventing their intended targeted disease. Nor are many of you aware of how many OTHER diseases and disorders they cause. Your ignorance is the pharmaceutical industry's cash-cow. Keeping the masses ignorant is there business plan. Don't be stupid, research UNBIASED sources like NVIC or VAXTRUTH, not "official" vaccine promoters like the CDC, WHO, state "health departments" and "medicl boards/associations" that ALL carry conflicts-of-interest.
YOu can get the flu many times a year, you do not build immunity to it. Why would anyone think that you can take a vaccine and build immunity to it?
Why would you think that these chemicals could build immunity?
Influenza (Afluria)
beta-propiolactone, thimerosol (multi-dose vials only), monobasic sodium phosphate, dibasic sodium phosphate, monobasic potassium phosphate, potassium chloride, calcium chloride, sodium taurodeoxycholate, neomycin sulfate, polymyxin B, egg protein
November 2011
Influenza (Fluarix)
sodium deoxycholate, formaldehyde, octoxynol-10 (Triton X-100),
α-tocopheryl hydrogen succinate, polysorbate 80 (Tween 80), hydrocortisone, gentamicin sulfate, ovalbumin
April, 2011
Influenza (Fluvirin)
nonylphenol ethoxylate, thimerosal (multidose vial–trace only in prefilled syringe), polymyxin, neomycin, beta-propiolactone, egg proteins
May, 2011
Influenza (Flulaval)
thimerosal,
α-tocopheryl hydrogen succinate, polysorbate 80, formaldehyde, sodium deoxycholate, ovalbumin
December, 2011
Influenza (Fluzone: Standard, High-Dose, & Intradermal)
formaldehyde, octylphenol ethoxylate (Triton X-100), sodium phosphate, gelatin (standard formulation only), thimerosal (multi-dose vial only) , egg protein
May, 2011
Influenza (FluMist)
ethylene diamine tetraacetic acid (EDTA), monosodium glutamate, hydrolyzed porcine gelatin, arginine, sucrose, dibasic potassium phosphate, monobasic potassium phosphate, gentamicin sulfate, egg protein
right on but they are good for alzheimers High concentrations in the brains of these patients and linked to their illness
Good! It SHOULD be hard to convince people to get their flu shots! Whatever happened to NATURAL immunity? That your body builds up on it's own through it's own sicknessess, and everyday contact with *gasp* germs and bacteria? But wait, how is ANYONE supposed to come into contact with germs and bacteria when everything is sanitized and sterilized three times in row?
It's the people who get flu shots and clean and wipe everything to death that are going to get sick, when their immune systems are too unexposed and weak to defend against everyday bugs and sicknesses.......the flu, colds, bugs, are going to be sooooooo much worse for those people. It's gonna come back to bite them in the ass.....that's not to say you should live in filth, but damn, put down the Clorox wipes, and step back.
I think I've only had the flu once in my life, or some bug, and that was it. Now I only get a cold every once in a GREAT while. I've never had a flu shot, neither do my parents. We don't get flu shots in this family.
I wonder how sick these people would get if they suddenly STOPPED getting their flu shots......would their body know how to defend itself against the ACTUAL virus instead of the "weakened virus" inside of a needle? Hmmm
They are destroying natural immunity then we will have to have their drugs Measles is not serious to a population that is used to it but lethal with around90% mortatlity to one that is not Look at this death rate in the Pacific Islands 2 centuries ago As we cannot pass on a vaccination immunity cos it it NOT a true one we will back to the 90% figure Oh what a lot of money to be made out of us!
We dont get flu shots either or any other so therefore we are safe from colds etc Get a tickle starting and gone the same day. Natural immunity can't beat it though BIg Pharma is doing its best to. Vaccinations lower your immunity to other illnesses as well as being full of heavy metals and mayu have unknown viruses ( not screened for these) hence AIDS
Yes, isis, their bodies WOULD know how to defend themselves against the actual virus. The "weakened" (actually, dead) virus teaches their bodies to recognize the actual virus they may come into contact with during the flu season. A body that recognizes the virus can defend against it, which is exactly how vaccines work. That's how smallpox was eliminated, and why measles and mumps are no longer considered a normal rite of passage in childhood. Measles and mumps still exist, but few of us are infected with them these days, because most of us have been vaccinated against them.
I have had my antibody titers measured for measles, mumps, and rubella. I had measles before I was vaccinated, but I also have plenty of antibodies to mumps and rubella, which I never had. My body recognizes and can defend against them, thanks to vaccines.
First of all, there's a reply button.
Second of all, I stand by what I said, I have never had a flu shot, and I have never had the flu. And yes, I know the flu symptoms, and that they're not the same for everyone. Like I said, the most I get is a cold every once in awhile, and that's it. Flu shots are pointless. EVERYONE at some point in their life will come in to contact with flu germs and bacteria, the NATURAL way (ie, passed on from others), and at THAT point their bodies will develop an immunity. And I doubt that the body is going to "forget" how to defend against it.
Instead of flu shots, why not start working on an ovarian cancer vaccine? You know vaccines for MAJOR diseases. Then you'll have my attention. They've been working on an HIV vaccine, right? Or a leukemia vaccine? That's what vaccines need to be aimed at, major life threatening diseases, not bugs that last a couple of weeks.
I recall you missing the reply button a time or two, as well.
Yes, we will encounter many bacteria and viruses. What's wrong with already having an immunity that allows us to encounter them, without experiencing their symptoms? That's what vaccines allow. Encountering the flu "naturally" can lead to deadly complications for some people.
First off that was an error on Newsvine's part...I recall hitting the reply button. Nevermind that.
Second, I can make an exception for the people who would get very sick without a flu shot, but other than that, it is pointless. And to be honest, I'd rather have the miserable bug once and build up my own immunity than pay for the shot.
And I'd rather pay a few bucks than spend a few days sick, and reduce the risk of transmitting the infection to my elderly and immunocompromised patients, who may have serious complications.
Those who would get very sick without the flu shot develop immunity to the flu the same way the rest of us do, you know. Their bodies recognize the viral antigens present in the vaccine, and fight off the virus when they encounter it. Same as for everyone else. No special advantage to your "natural" immunity - the mechanism is the same with either method, except one doesn't require infection.
You're a healthcare professional? NOW you tell me. How nice of you to spring it up on me out of the blue like that. Tell me, why did you wait until NOW, after all the back and forth crap to tell me that? Were you trying to invoke feelings of remorse in me for the patients that will have complications? Were you trying to make me feel guilty for your "sickening of the patients"? Oops I meant "transmitting the infection"?
Granted, there will be complications in those groups of people. I acknowledge that.
But I just find it REALLLY ODD that you decided to throw that into the conversation so suddenly.
Like you, SANDY, I am a woman, and know how to recognize the manipulation BS. Not buying it, not falling for it. And if I'm wrong, why wait so long to mention that you work with patients, hmmmm?
If you bothered to read my last post you would have SEEN where it says "I can make an exception for the people who would get very sick without a flu shot". And now that I FINALLY learn you're a healthcare professional, yes, they should get them, too.
But I think in general, it's pretty pointless.
I've mentioned on quite a few boards we have both commented on that I'm a dentist. I don't put it in every post, because I start to sound like a broken record.
And why in the world would I try to make YOU feel guilty for ME making patients sick? Really?
The general population visits grandparents, has friends and relatives with asthma, rides the bus with people on immunosuppressant drugs for a variety of illnesses. That is why it can be of benefit for them to have the vaccine as well. Not just for themselves, but for the susceptible people with whom they may come in contact.
Yes really. The fact that you waited so long to tell me that, it seemed like you were watching me get worked up in my own comments, then decide to spring the "health care proffesional" and "elderly" and "immunocompromised" at me....that's just how that came off.
Also, I must not have commented on those other boards, and if I have, I probably did NOT respond to any of your comments, at least to my knowedge. Just because we both commented on the same board, doesn't mean we had a discussion on them sweetie.
Also, this is gonna sound bad, but I stand by what I said that vaccines need to be aimed at MAJOR diseases, not bugs...and as for the people who will be really sickened by them, well, you have two options. Find a way to eradicate the virus without a yearly shot. Why not have a vaccine that targets ALL flu strains in one injection? Either something like that, or let nature run its course...idk what else there is.
You're reading way too much into the dentist thing.
And, as far as making a vaccine that targets all flu strains - can't be done. New strains are continually evolving via mutation. This year's vaccine that targets all strains will not protect agains strains that evolve over the next few years. Blame nature, not the vaccines.
The problem with making a vaccine against cancers is that they are the body's own cells. It is difficult to create a vaccine that will cause the body to attack ONLY mutated cancer cells, while NOT attacking normal ones.
Why is it ok to "let nature run its course" and cause the death of those susceptible to complications, but NOT ok to let nature run its course in the cases of cancer, AIDS (simply another viral disease, BTW), etc.? You know, "major diseases", as you call them?
poor littel man sandy you are pretty gullible Read the real research not the propaganda and from what you have posted what you read is at a puerile level
Sandy is a female and a doctor, so Im pretty sure she can not only read at a higher level than you, but has read more on the subject
Thanks, eric.
What most people do not understand is the logistics of getting the vaccine out to the masses. By the time the manufacturer produces, packages, transports, and issues the vacine, the Flu virus DNA has already mutated 2-3 times over.
Here is a study which followed people for a year who received a flu shot. the vaccinated missed more work and were sick more than the workers who did not receive the shot. it leave you more susceptible to being sick, just like the study regarding the H1N1 proved to make you more vulnerable to getting sick. when will people realize that putting this crap in your body is not making you healthy. but socking your imune system punch by punch. http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1516-31802001000400006&lng=en&nrm=iso&tlng=en and
Why didn't Dr. Snyderman recommend that people ask for a vaccine THAT DOESN'T HAVE MERCURY IN IT? Why doesn't she even mention the word mercury.
Ninety percent of the vaccine available contains mercury. Good luck to people who look for a mercury-free shot. Anyone three years and older gets 25 mcg. of mercury in their vaccines. According to the EPA, this much mercury is meant for someone weighing 550 pounds. Younger children get 12.5 mcg. of mercury that can be safely processed by someone weighing 275 pounds. Doctors give this vaccine to pregnant women at all stages of pregnancy and the massive mercury assault easily passes the placental barrier and enters the developing fetus.
The package insert that comes with the flu vaccine states that it’s never been tested on pregnant women and that it’s not known whether vaccine can cause fetal harm
Anne Dachel, Media editor: Age of Autism
If anyone is interested in INDEPENDENT RESEARCH on vaccines and their side effects they only have to look at the website for the new film, “The Greater Good,” (See trailer: ) which explores the question of vaccine safety from both sides. There are over 200 studies that raise serious concerns about vaccine side effects.
The medical community and health officials promote vaccines as the greatest achievement in modern medicine yet there is growing fear over vaccine side effects.
Also see the National Vaccine Information Center ,
Anne Dachel, Media editor: Age of Autism http://www.ageofautism.com/
VACCINATION IS NOT IMMUNIZATION Zking25 You are so wrong and misinformed as are all medical students who perpetuate this unproven myth that vaccines are harmless and protect us from disease. This is the biggest hoax that has ever been perpetuated on the human civilization and the results are devestating. Death, sickness and lifetime disabilities all so the pharmaceuticals and the government people in charge can make billions off the adverse effects of vaccines. Remember, their is a drug for everything. That is why you need continuous booster shots. Natural Immunization lasts a life time in naturally acquired disease. GOD knew what he was doing when he gave us an immune system. When you inject a virus through your skin the body does respond to produce antibodies. But it is not a strong response and thus the boosters that are needed. THE CDC'S OWN LIERATURE STATES "ANTIBODIES DOES NOT GUARANTEE YOU ARE PROTECTED " when acquired through vaccination. The CDCs own docuements along with other data and information from governments around the world proves that disease was on a 80% decline and some diseases already had bottomed out when the vaccine was introduced for that specific disease.
It was disovered in a large Pennsylvania amish population that their were NO CASES OF AUTISM and the amish do not vaccinate. Before the CDC increased the vaccination schedule in 1985 there were 1:157 children that were autistic and now there is 1:67-87 autistic children depending on whos research you read.
In June of 2000, members from the Centers for Disease Control, the Food and Drug Administration, and pharmaceutical companies, met in a secret meeting held in Simpsonwood, GA. The topic of discussion was the relationship between thimerosal and autism.
We know what was said at the meeting because parents obtained the transcripts through the Freedom of Information Act. The conversations are chilling. [5]
Here are three important quotes from the Simpsonwood Document:
“…the number of dose related relationships [between mercury and autism] are linear and statistically significant. You can play with this all you want. They are linear. They are statistically significant.” – Dr. William Weil, American Academy of Pediatrics. Simpsonwood, GA, June 7, 2000
“Forgive this personal comment, but I got called out at eight o’clock for an emergency call and my daughter-in-law delivered a son by c-section. Our first male in the line of the next generation and I do not want that grandson to get a Thimerosal containing vaccine until we know better what is going on. It will probably take a long time. In the meantime, and I know there are probably implications for this internationally, but in the meanwhile I think I want that grandson to only be given Thimerosal-free vaccines.” – Dr. Robert Johnson, Immunologist, University of Colorado, Simpsonwood, GA, June 7, 2000
“But there is now the point at which the research results have to be handled, and even if this committee decides that there is no association and that information gets out, the work has been done and through the freedom of information that will be taken by others and will be used in other ways beyond the control of this group. And I am very concerned about that as I suspect that it is already too late to do anything regardless of any professional body and what they say…My mandate as I sit here in this group is to make sure at the end of the day that 100,000,000 are immunized with DTP, Hepatitis B and if possible Hib, this year, next year and for many years to come, and that will have to be with thimerosal containing vaccines unless a miracle occurs and an alternative is found quickly and is tried and found to be safe.” – Dr. John Clements, World Health Organization, Simpsonwood, GA, June 7, 2000
The last quote by Dr. John Clements is important and revealing, because here is what happened next.
To read the above article go to;
FACT! 10% of the world was vaccinated against small pox. Yet the disease was wiped out in the other 90% of the world population. How can vaccines have been declared to eradicate small pox?
The 4 factors that lead to the decline of disease besides their natural decline is hand washing, sanitation, clean drinking water and better nutrition. We would be far better to invest billions in non gmo cropssanitation and potable water to eradicate disease in 3rd world countries rather than a never ending trail of throwing away billions on vaccines.
What has changed with disease since the beginning of time. NOTHING!! When I was young I received 17 vaccinations for 4 diseases now the schedule is 68 vaccinations with over 100 doses of vaccines. with embalming fluid, antifreeze, diploid cells (aborted fetus tissue from planned parenthood that the virus is grown) thimerosal (man made mercury that is logarithmically more attracted to brain tissue than natural mercury), aluminum, polysorbate 80 (detergent) and many other chemicals. THINK ABOUT THIS!! 25 micrograms of mercury are in a flu shot that is injected into your body but if there is a little residue left in that vial of flu vaccine it is required to be handled as toxic waste product by the EPA. Thimerosal was taken out of most of the vaccines, still in some flu vaccines. but aluminum and other chemicals are just as dangerous.
Here are studies that prove the Flu shot does not work and I challenge anyone to post a non funded pharmaceutical study between vaccinated children and unvaccinated children. ther is not one study that exists as the pharmaceuticals and government knows what they will find. Unvaccinated =healthy, mentally alert children. Vaccinnated= sickly autistic children. One example is a chiropractor I know that vaccinated his first three children and did not vaccinate his last three children. The first three in his words "do not socialize well, are agressive, difficult to focus and are sickly". The second three who were not vaccinated are the opposite.
In 2011 The supreme court ruled in Brueswitz vs.Wyeth that "vaccines are unavoidably unsafe by their very nature" and that americans do not have the right to sue vaccine manufacturers for injuries that are the result of defective design. No other product is shielded from lawsuits based on design defects
REMEMBER THE BLOOD BRAIN BARRIER IS NOT FULLY FORMED UNTIL THE CHILD BECOMES AN ADULT SO THE CHILDS BRAIN IS SUSEPTIBLE TO ALL THE HEAVY METALS AND TOXIC SUBTANCES IN THE VACCINES this is a partial list: Aluminum, mercury, aspartame, monosodium glutamate, formeldahyde are all neurotoxins and kill brain cells.
infants and toddlers 6-24 months Flu shots were given to 24.900 children. Analized 51 studies and flu shot was no more effective than a placebo. Cochran database 2008
2004 Protocal is to give children with asthma flu shots for the winter to prevent asthma exacerbations due to the flu. Studied 800 children for er visits, clinic visits hospitalizations for asthma. Results: there is no evidence that the flu vaccine prevent asthma exacerbations. Children who get the flu vaccine are 3x's more likely to get the flu American thoracic society 105th interrnational conference May 15-20 2009 Sandiego
Adults- 48 reports of 66,000 healthy adults vaccinated had a reduced risk of influenza by ONLY 6%. Reduced days of work by ONLY 0.16 days and DID NOT CHANGE the number of people needed to go to the hospital or take time off from work. Cochran database of systematic reviews 1(2006)
Seniors- 64 studies over 98 flu seasons of elderly living in nursing homes shown that flu shots were insignificant for preventing the flu. For seniors living in community flu vaccines were not significantly effective against influenza, ILI (influenza like illness) or pneumonia. Cochran Database of systematic reviews 3(2006)
The medical, pharmaceutical and government use the reasoning that health care workers should get vaccinated to protect their patients. AS SHOWN ABOVE FLU SHOTS DO NOT WORK AND THE RISKS FAR OUT WEGH ANY BENEFITS IF THER ARE ANY AT ALL!!
I URGE YOU TO EDUCATE BEFORE YOU VACCINATE BECAUSE If YOU OR YOUR CHILD DEVELOPE AN ADVERSE REACTION THE FIRST WORDS HEARD OUT OF YOUR PHYSICIANS MOUTH WILL BE THE VACCINE BROUGHT OUT SOME GENETIC DEFECT AND THE VACCINE DID NOT CAUSE IT AND YOU CANNOT SUE THEM OR THE PHARMACEUTICALS. PERSONALLY I WOULD RATHER HAVE MY HEALTH THAN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IF I COULD SUE THEM.
VACCINATION IS NOT IMMUNIZATION Zking25 You are so wrong and misinformed as are all medical students who perpetuate this unproven myth that vaccines are harmless and protect us from disease. This is the biggest hoax that has ever been perpetuated on the human civilization and the results are devestating. Death, sickness and lifetime disabilities all so the pharmaceuticals and the government people in charge can make billions off the adverse effects of vaccines. Remember, their is a drug for everything. That is why you need continuous booster shots. Natural Immunization lasts a life time in naturally acquired disease. GOD knew what he was doing when he gave us an immune system. When you inject a virus through your skin the body does respond to produce antibodies. But it is not a strong response and thus the boosters that are needed. THE CDC'S OWN LIERATURE STATES "ANTIBODIES DOES NOT GUARANTEE YOU ARE PROTECTED " when acquired through vaccination. The CDCs own docuements along with other data and information from governments around the world proves that disease was on a 80% decline and some diseases already had bottomed out when the vaccine was introduced for that specific disease.
It was disovered in a large Pennsylvania amish population that their were NO CASES OF AUTISM and the amish do not vaccinate. Before the CDC increased the vaccination schedule in 1985 there were 1:157 children that were autistic and now there is 1:67-87 autistic children depending on whos research you read.
In June of 2000, members from the Centers for Disease Control, the Food and Drug Administration, and pharmaceutical companies, met in a secret meeting held in Simpsonwood, GA. The topic of discussion was the relationship between thimerosal and autism.
We know what was said at the meeting because parents obtained the transcripts through the Freedom of Information Act. The conversations are chilling. [5]
Here are three important quotes from the Simpsonwood Document:
“…the number of dose related relationships [between mercury and autism] are linear and statistically significant. You can play with this all you want. They are linear. They are statistically significant.” – Dr. William Weil, American Academy of Pediatrics. Simpsonwood, GA, June 7, 2000
“Forgive this personal comment, but I got called out at eight o’clock for an emergency call and my daughter-in-law delivered a son by c-section. Our first male in the line of the next generation and I do not want that grandson to get a Thimerosal containing vaccine until we know better what is going on. It will probably take a long time. In the meantime, and I know there are probably implications for this internationally, but in the meanwhile I think I want that grandson to only be given Thimerosal-free vaccines.” – Dr. Robert Johnson, Immunologist, University of Colorado, Simpsonwood, GA, June 7, 2000
“But there is now the point at which the research results have to be handled, and even if this committee decides that there is no association and that information gets out, the work has been done and through the freedom of information that will be taken by others and will be used in other ways beyond the control of this group. And I am very concerned about that as I suspect that it is already too late to do anything regardless of any professional body and what they say…My mandate as I sit here in this group is to make sure at the end of the day that 100,000,000 are immunized with DTP, Hepatitis B and if possible Hib, this year, next year and for many years to come, and that will have to be with thimerosal containing vaccines unless a miracle occurs and an alternative is found quickly and is tried and found to be safe.” – Dr. John Clements, World Health Organization, Simpsonwood, GA, June 7, 2000
The last quote by Dr. John Clements is important and revealing, because here is what happened next.
To read the above article go to;
FACT! 10% of the world was vaccinated against small pox. Yet the disease was wiped out in the other 90% of the world population. How can vaccines have been declared to eradicate small pox?
The 4 factors that lead to the decline of disease besides their natural decline is hand washing, sanitation, clean drinking water and better nutrition. We would be far better to invest billions in non gmo cropssanitation and potable water to eradicate disease in 3rd world countries rather than a never ending trail of throwing away billions on vaccines.
What has changed with disease since the beginning of time. NOTHING!! When I was young I received 17 vaccinations for 4 diseases now the schedule is 68 vaccinations with over 100 doses of vaccines. with embalming fluid, antifreeze, diploid cells (aborted fetus tissue from planned parenthood that the virus is grown) thimerosal (man made mercury that is logarithmically more attracted to brain tissue than natural mercury), aluminum, polysorbate 80 (detergent) and many other chemicals. THINK ABOUT THIS!! 25 micrograms of mercury are in a flu shot that is injected into your body but if there is a little residue left in that vial of flu vaccine it is required to be handled as toxic waste product by the EPA. Thimerosal was taken out of most of the vaccines, still in some flu vaccines. but aluminum and other chemicals are just as dangerous.
Here are studies that prove the Flu shot does not work and I challenge anyone to post a non funded pharmaceutical study between vaccinated children and unvaccinated children. ther is not one study that exists as the pharmaceuticals and government knows what they will find. Unvaccinated =healthy, mentally alert children. Vaccinnated= sickly autistic children. One example is a chiropractor I know that vaccinated his first three children and did not vaccinate his last three children. The first three in his words "do not socialize well, are agressive, difficult to focus and are sickly". The second three who were not vaccinated are the opposite.
In 2011 The supreme court ruled in Brueswitz vs.Wyeth that "vaccines are unavoidably unsafe by their very nature" and that americans do not have the right to sue vaccine manufacturers for injuries that are the result of defective design. No other product is shielded from lawsuits based on design defects
REMEMBER THE BLOOD BRAIN BARRIER IS NOT FULLY FORMED UNTIL THE CHILD BECOMES AN ADULT SO THE CHILDS BRAIN IS SUSEPTIBLE TO ALL THE HEAVY METALS AND TOXIC SUBTANCES IN THE VACCINES this is a partial list: Aluminum, mercury, aspartame, monosodium glutamate, formeldahyde are all neurotoxins and kill brain cells.
infants and toddlers 6-24 months Flu shots were given to 24.900 children. Analized 51 studies and flu shot was no more effective than a placebo. Cochran database 2008
2004 Protocal is to give children with asthma flu shots for the winter to prevent asthma exacerbations due to the flu. Studied 800 children for er visits, clinic visits hospitalizations for asthma. Results: there is no evidence that the flu vaccine prevent asthma exacerbations. Children who get the flu vaccine are 3x's more likely to get the flu American thoracic society 105th interrnational conference May 15-20 2009 Sandiego
Adults- 48 reports of 66,000 healthy adults vaccinated had a reduced risk of influenza by ONLY 6%. Reduced days of work by ONLY 0.16 days and DID NOT CHANGE the number of people needed to go to the hospital or take time off from work. Cochran database of systematic reviews 1(2006)
Seniors- 64 studies over 98 flu seasons of elderly living in nursing homes shown that flu shots were insignificant for preventing the flu. For seniors living in community flu vaccines were not significantly effective against influenza, ILI (influenza like illness) or pneumonia. Cochran Database of systematic reviews 3(2006)
The medical, pharmaceutical and government use the reasoning that health care workers should get vaccinated to protect their patients. AS SHOWN ABOVE FLU SHOTS DO NOT WORK AND THE RISKS FAR OUT WEGH ANY BENEFITS IF THER ARE ANY AT ALL!!
I URGE YOU TO EDUCATE BEFORE YOU VACCINATE BECAUSE If YOU OR YOUR CHILD DEVELOPE AN ADVERSE REACTION THE FIRST WORDS HEARD OUT OF YOUR PHYSICIANS MOUTH WILL BE THE VACCINE BROUGHT OUT SOME GENETIC DEFECT AND THE VACCINE DID NOT CAUSE IT AND YOU CANNOT SUE THEM OR THE PHARMACEUTICALS. PERSONALLY I WOULD RATHER HAVE MY HEALTH THAN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IF I COULD SUE THEM.
Longterm research had proven the best way to protect yourself against the flu and increase your immune system is to increase your Vitamin D3 levels so that your blood level is a minimum of 50 nanograms/ milliliter and better at a level of 70 ng/ml. For cancer patients get as close to 100 ng/ml. Ask your physician to draw blood to see where you vitamin D3 level is. Most adults need 4000-50000 iu twice/day taken with meals morning and evening with a little fat in the meals as Vitamin D3 is fat soluble.
I'm in health care and I've never gotten a flu vaccine. The physicians I work for don't get them either. God only knows what's being put in those vaccines. I've been in health care for almost 30 years and have never gotten the flu. I wash my hands dozens of times per day, I don't shake hands with people, I don't use anti-bacterial soap or hand sanitizer. I use regular liquid soap and warm water. If I'm with a patient who is coughing or sneezing, I insist they wear a mask, and I wear one and put on gloves. The whole H1N1 pandemic was a joke, and I don't trust the government as far as I can throw a piano as far as getting vaccinated goes. No way.
you sound like a load of fun...
H1N1 hit our schoolkids pretty hard, while the vaccine was unavailable around here. My son had it, and it took him weeks to get over the coughing and congestion that lingered after the fever and aches were gone. I had other patients who had the same problem - high school athletes, really healthy kids who were just floored by H1N1. At one point, a third of the kids in our elementary school were out sick with either the flu or strep, which was also going around at the same time. Some, like my son, were lucky enough to have both.
A patient of mine who is an ER nurse treated a 40-ish man, otherwise healthy, who was admitted with H1N1, moved to ICU overnight, and was dead the next day.
Surely didn't seem like a joke to me.
There is a real scientific basis to people's claims that they get sick after getting the flu shot. The reason is that they contain "adjuvants" which intentionally suppress the immune system in order to help the flu shot "take" better. The problem is that your immune system is then not at its full capacity after getting the shot and even if you're protected from the specific strains of influenza in the shot, you're MORE susceptible to everything else that's going around. I've gotten a flu shot twice, in non-consecutive years, and those were the two years that every cold I got turned into bronchitis or pneumonia. I couldn't fight off a bug for anything. I will never, ever get another flu shot because I can't afford to be that sick all winter. Flu shots are plenty easy to get, every grocery store and pharmacy in my area has them and you can get them free if you can't afford it. It's not that people can't get them, it's that a lot of us look beyond the commercials and decide it's not actually in our best interest. Have I gotten the flu in the years I haven't gotten the shot? A couple of times. But it wasn't that bad and I got over it quickly. I'll take that over repeated hospitalizations with pneumonia from a suppressed immune system any year. No flu shots for me.
Vaccines are for people who are incapable of critical thinking.
Oh dear Eric so immune systems aren't compromised by vaccines Well you can say that till you are blue in the face but you won't change FACT.VACCINES COMPROMISE IMMUNE SYSTEMS FOR OTHER ILLNESSES AND MAY BUT MAY NOT HELP FOR THE DISEASE BEING VACCINATED FOR I don't touch the flu vaccine Studies of hundreds of researchers show it doesn't work - well if you call 1% improvement a plus and not even BIg Pharma have been able to cook things enough to show that it helps with any complications like pneumonia. So I have wiped all vaccinations for anything and have been flu ( and cold) free for 25 years. It is also a good feeling with the granchildren to know they are safe from cot death cos they are unvaccinated
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I take objection to the first sentence of this article: “Just about everyone is supposed to get a flu shot every year”. That is for me to decide.
Basically what I was told by my doctor when growing up was I did not have the right to receive an education here in the state of N.Y. unless I allowed them to vaccinate me with all sorts of stuff weather I wanted it or not. Consequently now as an adult I am extremely resentful at the CDC for colluding with state law makers and big pharma. for passing this oppressive policy.
It is not so easy to mandate mandatory flu vaccine because it is required every year and they no longer have denying older people an education as a whip to dangle over them. So law makers are now trying to make it a condition of employment as the article rightly states. Never mind that it violates a fundamental tenant of medical ethics known as patient autonomy, doctors aren’t very keen on ethics in my experience.
As a result of one of my vaccines I developed a phobia of needles. I feel that the cure in my case is worst then the disease. I have absolutely no intention of getting vaccinated. Doctors don’t care about my phobia because the CDC guidance to health care workers (which you can look up on their own web site, don’t have to take my word for it) is to “ignore any contraindications not specifically stated by the manufacture” humbug to all that old Greek do no harm stuff. I applaud the 82% of people aged 18- to 49-years old who declined the vaccine. Yes, there is hard resistance out there!
I simply do not believe that 42% of Americans received a flu shot last year. Hogwash!
In general, I am not against vaccines like so many nowadays. I fought to get vaccines when a student and visiting a foreign country when the school refused to give it (despite CDC recommending them 2 weeks after my return). One year I decided to start the flu vaccine. I know dead viruses can't give it to you. I got really bad symptoms after the shot-- fever, sore joints, etc. so much that both my husband and I had to stay in bed for 3 days. No other vaccine has ever done that to me. And that was the year I got the sickest I have ever been months later and as hospitalized. So... no other shot has made me feel so bad. SO whether it is the flu shot or my immune system fighting it, I have rarely felt so bad. Every year I go through this inner debate about the flu shot but it is hard force myself to get it when the one time I did I felt SOOOO bad.
As a sesonal flu vaccination nurse, I can speak wholeheatedly on this issue of why people do not get a flu shot. There are several reasons. The biggest reason, propaganda - Im not talking about leaflets falling from the sky - no, its an aunt, a coworker, a friend, someone out there in the public stating, "Oh no, I got the flu shot several years ago and I got the flu." Oh no you didn't (sneer) Then there are those who state, "I never had the flu, I take care of myself, I don't need the flu shot." Another reason, access to where flu vaccines are adminstered and finally the cost. More public education is the key. My state of Illinois faired well - we got the word out,
I hear you, Zapper, I feel the same way. I cannot imagine NOT getting the flu shot, this time I got the pneumonia shot too. I have asthma and sinus problems and the flu has taken me completely down on more than one occassion. As I write this, I do not feel very well, slight flu-like symptoms, coughing., but I am still aboe to function. If I dont get the flu shot, I get "flat-back" sick without it. It's been a while back since I've had such a horrible case of the flu and I never want to experience that again. I wouldn't consider going through a flu season without my shot. Because others are afraid to take the vaccine, they spread the flu more readily because they are not protected.