China stiff-arms FDA on jerky pet treat testing, reports show

Courtesy the Mawaka family.

Elizabeth Mawaka of Hartford, Conn., has sued makers and sellers of chicken jerky dog treats, which she blames for the death of two dogs, including Toby, shown above. She called on Nestle Purina PetCare Co. officials to allow U.S. inspectors to test samples from China plants.

Chinese government officials overseeing plants that make chicken jerky pet treats blamed for thousands of illnesses and deaths among American dogs have refused to allow U.S. inspectors to collect samples for independent analysis, newly released records show.

Investigators with the federal Food and Drug Administration came away empty-handed after conducting April inspections at four jerky treat manufacturing sites in Liaocheng and Jinan, China, according to the records.

The plants make pet treats sold by the St. Louis-based Nestle Purina PetCare Co., including the popular Waggin’ Train jerky brands.

Chinese officials stipulated that FDA officials could collect samples only if they agreed to specific conditions, including a requirement that the samples be tested in Chinese-run laboratories.

As a result, “no samples were collected during this inspection,” wrote Dennis L. Doupnik, an FDA investigator who visited the sites.

In addition, the reports showed that the Chinese plants conducted either no laboratory tests or only sporadic tests of the raw materials, including meat used in treats fed to many of the 78.2 million pet dogs in the U.S.

The FDA found no significant violations and issued no citations, but warned plant owners about problems that included broken supports on metal screens, a torn gasket door on a mixer and failure to file proper paperwork to list actual treat manufacturers instead of shippers or brokers in FDA records.

That means the agency appears to be no closer to solving the mystery of about 2,000 reports of illnesses or deaths in U.S. dogs that ate jerky treats made in China, lawmakers and pet owners said on Tuesday. Despite tests of hundreds of treats in the U.S. over five years, the FDA has found no significant levels of contaminants in the products.

“It’s hard to believe the FDA would send a team of inspectors over to China without first getting a guarantee that they could bring samples back,” said Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, who has been tracking the jerky problem. “They’re doing nothing of consequence. The FDA’s tone-deaf on this one.”

Elizabeth Mawaka, 57, a Hartford, Conn., woman who says her two Boston terriers, Max and Toby, died after eating tainted treats, called on Nestle Purina to demand that samples be released to the FDA.

“It really comes down to the company,” said Mawaka, who is suing jerky treat makers and retailers. “We can talk all we want about China, but it’s really the company.”

However, a Nestle Purina spokesman said the inspections demonstrated no problems with the firm's products and no evidence that they’ve led to illnesses in animals in the U.S.

Keith Schopp, the firm’s vice president of public relations, said that it’s common for countries to refuse to have samples tested outside of the country of origin and that the terms of the inspection were set by the U.S. and Chinese governments, not by Nestle Purina or the manufacturing site officials.

“There was no attempt by Nestle Purina or the Chinese facilities to restrict sample collection,” said Schopp said in an email to NBCNews.com.

"Nestle Purina will continue to cooperate fully with FDA to assist its investigation," added Schopp, who has consistently said the treats are safe to feed as directed.

Tamara N. Ward, an FDA spokeswoman, said in an email that the inspections helped to identify additional areas that the agency may investigate, but there is "no evidence indicating that these firms' jerky pet treats are the cause of pet illnesses in the United States."

Ward did not respond to NBC News questions about the impact of the Chinese officials' refusal to allow FDA to collect samples. 

Last November, the FDA issued its third warning since 2007 about potentially dangerous chicken jerky treats after new reports of health problems in dogs surfaced, ranging from diarrhea and vomiting to kidney failure and death. In the months since then, the agency has been swamped with reports of animal illness. Last month, it expanded the caution to include duck and sweet potato jerky treats.

The FDA sent a letter to Chinese officials in March identifying five Chinese firms for inspection. Investigators were sent for several days to each of four plants: Gambol Pet Products Co. Ltd.; Shandong Honva Food Co. Ltd.; and Shandong Petswell Food Co. Ltd., all in Liaocheng, China, and Jinan Uniwell Pet Food Co. Ltd. in Jinan, China, according to reports posted this week on the agency’s animal and veterinary website. The fifth report is pending because of the need for additional information and will be posted later, said Ward, the FDA spokeswoman. 

The inspections were pre-arranged and supervised by officials with China’s General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine, known as AQSIQ.

AQSIQ officials refused to allow FDA inspectors to collect samples unless they agreed to “certain sampling conditions,” including having the jerky analyzed only in a Chinese government-run laboratory, or a third-party lab in China, wrote FDA investigator Doupnik. FDA investigators would have been allowed to witness the analysis, but not to remove samples.

“I was informed that FDA would not be allowed to ship any samples outside of China for testing in an FDA laboratory due to the issue of national sovereignty among other reasons,” Doupnik added.

Before each inspection, the reports indicated that Doupnik asked AQSIQ officials if their position on the sampling had changed. When he was informed it had not, Doupnik wrote that he did not ask to collect samples during the inspections.

The heavily redacted documents, known as Establishment Inspection Reports, traced the production of jerky treats from raw meat through final packaging. In each case, plant officials said they were aware of few complaints of any kind and none about the treats causing death or illness in dogs. That's despite documented FDA reports of complaints related to each site, Doupnik noted.

At the Shandong Petswell plant, an unidentified plant representative told inspectors that “it is her perception that the firm is making a good product.”

No FDA import alerts or import refusals have been issued for the firms, Ward said. However, she added that the FDA is conducting increased surveillance of shipments of jerky treats from China to provide guidance on possible products to target for sampling and analysis.

But Kucinich said that Chinese officials' refusal to release samples to U.S. inspectors should be grounds for banning the products from import -- or for a mandatory recall.

“That would do it for that product. I would pull them all off the market,” said Kucinich. “Fine. You’re done.”

Consumers have petitioned the FDA to urge Nestle Purina and other jerky treat manufacturers to recall the products. However, FDA officials have said they can’t force a recall based solely on customer complaints.

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How many people, animals have to die before we stop importing from these murders.

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#1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:12 AM EDT

I don't know. I've stopped "treating" my dog all together. I've found a good place to get dog food in my area. I feed him and train him little bit, throughout the day. He's actually better behaved now that he has to constantly work for his food.

  • 17 votes
#1.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:57 AM EDT

A better question would be "Why is anyone still buying anything made for consumption from China?" The FDA tests aren't really necessary.

  • 176 votes
#1.2 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:08 AM EDT

Oh yeah China. ALthough I stopped buying dog treats made in China a long time ago, I am now going to take the time to make sure where everything I buy is made. ANYTHING I would have bought from China, - no more! Absurd. Looking at the poor Boston Terrier TOby breaks my heart, as I have one named Biscuit.

  • 44 votes
#1.3 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:20 AM EDT

Can't make jerky here. Might have to pay workers the minimum wage. Can't make anything here. US workers would want wages high enough to pay for living here.

  • 87 votes
#1.4 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:27 AM EDT

Can't make jerky here. Might have to pay workers the minimum wage. Can't make anything here. US workers would want wages high enough to pay for living here.

  • 14 votes
#1.5 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:27 AM EDT

I just don't understand why our government will go after US based manufacturing and shut them down in a heartbeat, but they put up with this crap from Chinese manufacturers.

This is just another reason we keep losing manufacturing jobs. If you're a company and you need to open a new plant, do you open it in the US and risk being shutdown if you break the rules, or do you open it in China where you can do whatever you want with no consequences?

Even if a company tries to "do the right thing" and open the plant here, they will likely have to close it because they can't compete with the Chinese prices due to this type of action by the government.

  • 71 votes
#1.6 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:39 AM EDT

Seems to me you'd be better able to determine if there's a problem by testing packages here that were produced at the same time as the ones supposedly were tainted. It says the FDA tested large numbers of packages and found nothing wrong.

  • 12 votes
#1.7 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:39 AM EDT

Why do people need the FDA? If you know there's a problem with the food and it says "Made in China", put it back on the shelf.

  • 42 votes
#1.8 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:49 AM EDT

My heart goes out to Elizabeth Mawaka and the loss of her dogs. My heart goes out to those who depend upon the FDA for honest and accurate information. They are the very same federal agency, ( paid by our tax dollars), who recently reported to us that the amount of radiation levels of Pacific fish has increased 10 fold since the tsunami in Japan. They went on to tell us not to worry or be concerned over that and that we should be more concerned over the levels of mercury. That made me feel a lot better about eating Pacific fish; not eating it at all. Now we expect China to allow them to come marching into their country and do their testing? Is this some joke that in which I am missing the punch line? Read the labels, don't buy from Purina. There are companies who have no dealings with them or any other foreign countries. One can always make their own dog food. China has been sending us crap for decades and people buy it because?

  • 27 votes
#1.9 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:56 AM EDT

mac, we CAN make jerky here. i do it in my own kitchen using a dehydrator. for the price of one bag of waggin train you can buy almost twice the amount of chicken and do it yourself. not only is it cheaper but you know it won't kill your dog cause you know everything that's going into them.

  • 36 votes
#1.10 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:05 AM EDT

People have been known to eat these treats also. Wonder how many of them died. If FDA can't boycott the Chinese Pet snacks then US Citizens should boycott the products.

  • 47 votes
#1.11 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:16 AM EDT

This is a simple answer America..... "STOP" buying your dog treats or anything else from China. If the Chinese government and our corporations will NOT take the steps to protect our pets, let's him them where it really hurts, the pocket book.

BUY AMERICAN.

  • 62 votes
#1.12 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:17 AM EDT

We could always stop buying Chinese crap.

  • 44 votes
#1.13 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:24 AM EDT

Isn't the free trade grand? How well it helps everybody! (sarcasm)

US politicians who gave China the most privileged nation trade status should be hanged. They ruined our domestic industries and helped to kill our pets...

  • 39 votes
#1.14 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:27 AM EDT

It's not like there's no alternative to their junk. You're foolish to gamble your health away for a ninety-nine cent deal.

  • 19 votes
#1.15 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

ADD these Chinese to the list of people ( illegal Mexicans on bus tour) and countries that give the bIG *UCK*OU to my country.

Stop buying from walmart and thus CHINA

  • 27 votes
#1.16 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:40 AM EDT

Mac Forrester: And there is something wrong with paying workers a living wage?

  • 11 votes
#1.17 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:54 AM EDT

Time for a dog owner who lost their pet to the "tainted treats" sue CHINA.

  • 6 votes
#1.18 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:11 AM EDT

...have refused to allow U.S. inspectors to collect samples for independent analysis, newly released records show.

How about telling the Chinese that the US will refuse all Chinese shipments of jerky/dog treats? I bet they let the FDA conduct independent analysis.

  • 25 votes
#1.19 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:13 AM EDT

When are our government leaders going to stand up to China and stop doing business with them? When are our leaders going to act in the best interest of our nation and not China's?

  • 22 votes
#1.20 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:14 AM EDT

imrightnotyou, i thought republicans were FOR less regulation.

  • 7 votes
#1.21 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

Neither my sister nor I have fed our pets commercial dog food or treats in many years. We started cooking for our four legged children long before it was mainstream.

Please do not assume that a pet food is safe based on the fact that it is manufactured in the US. Call the number on the label....yeah, that's right, use your cell phone for something besides Twitter.....and ask them where the INGREDIENTS came from, and call them on the lie when they tell you that there are ingredients that cannot be obtained in the US.

I have an acquaintance who says that the pet food companies spent millions of dollars determining what pets nutritional needs are and formulating proper food for them. No, not at all. They spent millions figuring out just how much cheap crap they can stuff into a can or a bag rather than a dumpster and tell you that it is good for your pet. Cooking for your pets doesn't cost any more or take much more time than going to the store and dragging home a bag of something that may well kill your companion who loves and trusts you to give them food that is actually good for them.

  • 15 votes
#1.22 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:23 AM EDT

RETIRED RN - Neither I nor anybody else can dispute the facts in your second paragraph! I have done that in the past myself... very sad the bureaucracy and/or ignorance you get when you call Customer Service at these pet food manufacturers.

  • 6 votes
#1.23 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

A note to Nestle: FU! ... Not only will I not purchase any of your "dog treats" but none of your other goods, either. Own up to your responsiblities.

Oh, and F*** China, too

  • 24 votes
#1.24 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:54 AM EDT

I only buy products that clearly state Made in USA or Canada. Anything that is "Distributed By" stays on the shelf. I do the same with people food also - but do allow other countries of origin. I still bypass China and India, though. And be careful of Danish Butter Cookies - some of them contain fish oil. Yuck. Read everything!

  • 11 votes
#1.25 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:57 AM EDT

Sue China...that's funny, and such an american response.

  • 6 votes
#1.26 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:26 PM EDT

F the Chinese, we can make them here and need the jobs. Why don't we put one or more of their companies out of business?

  • 12 votes
#1.27 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:31 PM EDT

problem is, many people are not aware that there may be a problem with the product they are buying.

I think most people would buy something different if they knew ????

  • 5 votes
#1.28 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

Something is terribly wrong when China can treat our Government like school children..I hate an unfair world market..

  • 11 votes
#1.29 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

“There was no attempt by Nestle Purina or the Chinese facilities to restrict sample collection,” said Schopp said in an email to NBCNews.com.

Then how about Purina stops doing business with factories that refuse sample collection and testing in US labs? Do you think that might *possibly* get their attention?

  • 17 votes
#1.30 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

How about give the FDA the power to stop the import of these things? We know there is a problem, fix it, stop bringing it here.

  • 8 votes
#1.31 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

China can say anything they want, and treat our government like school children, and we give then favored trade status because....

THEY OWN US!

  • 5 votes
#1.32 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

I totally agree - let's stop spending our money with companies that will not give us what we want. Nestle Purina needs to hear their customers loud and clear. We put our trust in them to provide safe products for our loved ones ( pets are loved ones) and they are failing us. Time to purchase our needs else where - dog food, cat food, and treats. Once they start listening to the customer again - then they deserve our business. They are as guilty as the Chinese companies for purchasing this stuff after they were made aware of the issue. This has been going on for over a year - long enough to find a new supplier.

  • 8 votes
#1.33 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

My grand parents had hound dogs and lived way out in the sticks. They ate nothing but table scraps. leftover biscuits, cornbread, eggs, meat etc. Most of their dogs (large hounds) lived to be 13 or 14 yrs old. One lived to be 17.

It's not only where the food is made, but also what ingredients are used.

Meat and poultry processing plants all use machines called protein recyclers. they grind up skin, guts, cancerous growths and anything else that can't be marketed. Soilent Green for animals.

No wonder so many pets die from cancer!

  • 7 votes
#1.34 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:10 PM EDT

F China...

Buy American!! :)

  • 13 votes
#1.35 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:13 PM EDT

When are people going to stop depending on the government for everything? Hasn't the government proven over and over on just about every issue that they are NOT the standard for anything? When people stop depending on the government and start taking back their lives and being responsible for themselves, then people would not get so upset at the government. In this case, it is obvious that neither the American nor the Chinese government care about our pets. Therefore, take matters in your own hands and make your own pet food and pet treats. I have been doing it for years. It is a pain and takes a lot of work, but the bottom line is that my pets are still alive and healthy with few vet bills. Just make sure you include all the essential vitamins and minerals. It can be done. Just takes commitment to make sure all of the ingredients you use are healthy.

    #1.36 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:16 PM EDT

    nestle's is a repub/tparty contributor, don'cha no.

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    #1.37 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:23 PM EDT
    PsychoticaDeleted

    As soon as I heard that Milo's Kitchen treats were partially processed in China, i threw away every bag. It was only a few days later that I heard about the Chicken Jerky issue. I refuse to feed anything to my Dog thats even set foot in China. The countries a dump, its run by communist a-holes whose only concern is a quick buck for as cheap as they can get it.

    This decision from China is of course, not suprising to me. If the FDA were to actually find somthing (Which they of course would) they would have shut em down. This is of course China's way of admitting guilt. And as a result our Government should tell China to F off and refuse to import anymore garbage products made by their trashy POS country.

    • 5 votes
    #1.39 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

    They put anti freeze in toothpaste they sold us and plaster of paris in medicine the sold do you really think they care what happens to anmimals? Make your own dog treas . Good treat is rice and chicken. Take som backs and thighs and boil them save the liquid do not add any salt or other seasonings. cut the meat off the bones and make rice with the juice if you have left over juice save it and add it to the rice when it is done along with the meat after you make sure there are no bones in it. (chiken bones splinter and can caus abdominal distress if injested!) freeze it in small containers about a half can size and feed it to the dog as a snack or reward. F China.Cant we even make pet food here? My lord are we stupid or what just so some AH can become a millionaire....

    • 2 votes
    #1.40 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

    Person coul clean up making pet treats with the made in usa name on them...There are dog treats made here do a search for dog treats made in the USA

    • 1 vote
    #1.41 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

    Heh. "Sue China." Our government "go after" and "shut down" Chinese manufacturers? Good luck with that. A lot of people REALLY don't know who we're dealing with over there, do they? Anyway, it could be strychnine-in-a-lead-foil-bottle soda, just so long as it's the cheapest option, and it would still sell like hotcakes in the US.

    • 1 vote
    #1.42 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

    I boycott China and Nestle Purina.

    I have been making my own healthy dog and cat treats for over a year for the pets of my family members, friends, and myself. The animals love it and are healthier, too!

    Never expect anything consumer-oriented from the business-interests-stuffed FDA which protects industry rather than We the People...and they do it with our tax dollars!

    • 1 vote
    #1.43 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

    Samantha,

    you make it sound pretty easy however, unless companies are truthful about what they are putting into the product, you can't make an intelligent decision.

    and there have been a lot of recent reports of companies making claims about the contents of their products that are not true !! ie; fruit juice, fish products, etc, etc;

    • 1 vote
    #1.44 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

    hatr-hurter,

    So how is all the extra Democratic regulation working for you?

    More regulation on credit cards = higher interest rates for all - mine almost doubled in spite of the fact that my credit score hasn't changed and I haven't missed a payment in fifteen years.

    More regulation on banks = fewer loans to small business and Jon Corzine still threw away a paltry $1.6 Billion of customer's money on a bad bet when he shouldn't have had access to that money to begin with.

    When are the kool-aid drinking liberals going to wise up and realize it isn't simply about less regulation it is about smarter regulation.

    P.S. How many New Yorkers are going to get slender simply because they can't buy a large soft drink or have salt with their food anymore? Answer - None. They'll bring salt from home and buy two or three drinks instead of one. In the end it's more hassel, costs more, and nothing about the obesity problem actually changes.

    • 1 vote
    #1.45 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:48 PM EDT

    I can do a better job making treats and cheaper then I can buy them, I wont buy anything from China if I can find it made somewhere else, that goes for American companies that manufacture in China they are on my list if Chinese are involved its a no sale I cant afford to buy junk that falls apart or breaks when you are depending on it, they peddle crap why do we buy it. spending good money on cheep junk is not saving any money its wasting it. these treats have been killing pets for years now and people still buy them? WTF, if I buy something for my dog I go as far as to findout where all the ingrediences come from and if its from a foreign source that is a no sale, I can make my own dog food.

    • 1 vote
    #1.46 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

    Want a sample just go to the store and by a bag..... Then you have your sample of the finished product and it would be a hell of a lot cheaper then sending a crew over to china.....

    • 2 votes
    #1.47 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

    The remedy is simple. Boycott Chinese. Well, except eggrolls.

      #1.48 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

      What concerns me even more than this whole poisoning of our pets and children is how a cross-eyed China man who barely stands 4"9' (the chinese poisonous loophole cutters) can stiff arm a 6"3' Marlboro American man (the FDA) onto the sideline???

        #1.49 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:00 PM EDT

        Psychotica

        what a bunch of Honda propaganda...They make very good bikes

        but so does Harley

        • 3 votes
        #1.50 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

        my goldwing was made in ohio not japan , have an hd1450 also both great bikes

        • 2 votes
        #1.51 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

        China has the right to refuse our inspections of their products, we have the right to refuse to buy their products, our government and it's agency (FDA)has the right to make importing those products illegal also. If you can bake cookies from a dough log you can make dog treats folks. Buy a package of hot dogs and cut one inch pieces. Groceries sell diced chicken. Most dogs love Ritz crackers. Mine like them with spray can cheese.

        • 1 vote
        #1.52 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

        How do you make home made food - I saw the post for the chicken and rice, but what do you use for something harder (for their teeth) in there. My vet said they shouldn't get just softer food. Love to hear some suggestions. Thanks!

        BUY AMERICAN!!

        • 2 votes
        #1.53 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

        Start looking at fruit cups you buy for kids lunches. I looked at a store brand of Mandarin oranges, Made in China. Then I looked at Del Monte, Made in China. Then I looked at fruit cocktail, store and name brands, Made in China. Now I look at Everything that goes into the lunches I make for my daughter, as well as everything else. I won't let her eat the schools lunches, they are farmed out to companies who's bottom line is the only important thing to them, screw your kids.

        • 2 votes
        #1.54 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:59 PM EDT

        @Chris, they're called BONES and canines have been chewing on them since there were canines.

        Go to your grocery store meat dept. and ask for large beef soup bones, preferably the leg joints. Boil them and give them to Fido.

        Add some chopped up beef and veggies to the broth and you have a nice beef vegetable soup for you as well.

        • 1 vote
        #1.55 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:16 PM EDT

        The latest trick is you can't find where it's manufactured on either the label or the website. All you can find is "distributed by". To me that means made in China and that gets left on the shelf. Nothing is going to be done by the FDA, both they and congress have been well paid to turn a blind eye.

        • 2 votes
        #1.56 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

        People should be suing American companies that import and sell this Chinese garbage. Good luck trying to sue Chinese companies! American companies buy this stuff because it gives them bigger profits and bigger salaries for their top managers.

        • 4 votes
        #1.57 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

        How stupid do you have to be to even buy these and any dog treats made in china? When you stop buying them they will stop coming!

        • 3 votes
        #1.58 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:32 PM EDT

        I started monitoring where the stuff I buy was made several years ago. I buy Chinese goods now only if there's no other option (clothing, electronics, etc), and sadly, that list is growing. I used to buy a large percentage of my clothing and camping equipment from L.L. Bean, but they too have taken the Made in China route. I politely complained about paying a premium price for a Chinese made sleeping bag in a review which I submitted to their website. Predictably, it was never published. I think that it's time for all Americans to start boycotting shoddily made Chinese goods. It doesn't take a lot of effort, just some willingness to look for alternatives.

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        #1.59 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

        @Sparky - There is no "extra regulation." Interest rates on CC's are not regulated by the gov't. As for not giving small businesses loans, banks have become more stringent on whom they lend money to. My friend who recently bought a house could only afford a 460k loan on an income of 75k before taxes (single, hoh, no dependents). And this is with a 110k down in cash. He's been saving every penny since he started working in order to save up for the down payment so that his mortgage payments will be lower for the lifetime of the loan. Banks used to let you be 68% of your income in debt/yr for a home loan. Now, you can't even be 40% of your income in debt/yr. Are you saying this is a bad thing?

        Banks are also giving out CC offers again to people with poor credit, despite the housing bubble that drove us into this past recession. I don't think you understand how big banks work. Credit score is just a "guideline" for them to make sure you're not too irresponsible, but just enough that you pay the high interest rates because you don't pay off your full balance every month.

          #1.60 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

          I agree. These free trade agreements have done nothing for our country except harm. Good luck buying a American made product though. The USA doesn't manufacture much of anything anymore. We've turned into a bunch of paper/money pushers and have no solid base on which to rely.

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          #1.61 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

          Thanks Fuzzy44

            #1.62 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

            WOW!!
            That pretty much sums things up, doesn't it!
            Our guys...FDA bigwigs...come strolling in to China, making demands and thinking they're going to strong arm their way in and lay down the law like they're John Wayne, or Clint Eastwood!
            But then OOOOPS!! What's this?!! The Chinese respond with a big, brash "F*** Y**"!!
            HMMMmmmmmm....NOW what do we do?? Maybe we could try saying "PLEASE"??
            Let's face it... China KNOWS that they are the new, big bully on the playground, and there's just no way they're going to give us back our ball, so we might as well face up to it and chalk this up to just another tell of where our relationship with them is headed. There's never enough room for very long for TWO big bullies to be on the same playground. And it always begins with the posturing, like two colorful roosters fluffing out their feathers and doing their "I'm bad" dance before one another. But at some point, the dancing ends when one of them decides it's time to strike!! Yeah, yeah...I hear you..."but this is just dog food! It's no big deal". Really?? No big deal when agents of our government take a trip to China, thinking that they're going to get some respect and that the Chinese are going to bow before them and comply?...but then, in front of the whole world, the Chinese tell them to take a hike. THINK AGAIN! We are the USA!!! WE make the rules, and everyone else follows them! You doubt it? Then you tell me, why did these agents PERSONALLY make this trip, without first contacting China to establish why they were coming, and what the protocol should be so that there would not be any embarrassing screw ups, and everyone would know their place? I'll tell you why...and it wasn't because they wanted to be slapped in the face in front of all the other kids on the playground! No, it's because they fully expected that their showing up PERSONALLY would be VERY intimidating, resulting in an immediate "GAME OVER". ...OOPS!...apparently they had no "plan B" in place, because they had never expected the results that they encountered! You can't tell me that they went there EXPECTING to be shown the door.
            ...THINK ABOUT IT...'cause it's got me thinking.

            • 1 vote
            #1.63 - Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:40 PM EDT

            I am going to kill a couple deer with my bow and then slice them up and put them in my dehydrator. I am done with Purina and their damn out sourcing to these America killers in China.

            • 1 vote
            #1.64 - Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:03 AM EDT

            Back in the 1980's Americans were loudly complaining about the trade deficit with the Japanese. We all knew the influx of goods from Japan were detrimental to our own economy, but the truth was, Japanese products were not only cheaper than American products, they were also much higher quality products than the US was producing. So most Americans continued to buy them - especially electronics and automobiles.

            When China was named a "most-favored nation", the floodgates were opened and we began to see an influx of products that were cheaper than Japanese goods. And in the mid- to late-1990's the Japanese economy crumbled from the loss of our business.

            But China has NEVER had a reputation for high-quality products. In fact, you can't name any product that China exports that is considered "high end" or "high quality". So how long will it be before we come to the conclusion that cheaper doesn't mean better, and the factories and sweatshops in China are abandoned or turned into multi-family housing units?? You tell me.

            • 2 votes
            #1.65 - Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:12 PM EDT

            the FDA should make the chinese eat their own jerky treats and see what happens. I can't believe how gullible the FDA is .

            • 1 vote
            #1.66 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:09 AM EDT

            You want to stop the problem, stop buying the product and file lawsuits against the US Distributors and the FDA demanding an injunction until they can prove their products are NOT causing the deaths.

            If you hit the US distributors in the pocketbook, only that will stop the problem.

            • 1 vote
            #1.67 - Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

            Just one more failure in the long list of the administration. THey find time to try to moniter the food we eat, the salt we use, the soda we drink but they can't do thier jobs and keep poison products from the shelves.

            • 1 vote
            #1.68 - Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:00 PM EDT

            Simple... do NOT buy any Nestle product!!! Their products are all over Asia from dog treats to ice cream. When I lived in Hong Kong in 2000-2005, most folks, including the Hong Kong Chinese, knew not to buy dog treats made in China. In fact, they also knew NOT to buy chicken that came from China and many other products. We are so dumb in this country.... how many poisoned products do we have to endure before folks start reading the labels??? If you could see the "shrimp farms" in China, you would not be buying the frozen shrimp from China either. In fact, if you could see China, you wouldn't buy anything for consumption made there!!! Wake up America... you helped create this monster with your constant desire for cheap, cheap, cheap. You shop in Walmart and buy everything made in China. As long as you do that, WHY should American companies quit making things there??? YOU have to make the difference.

              #1.69 - Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:45 PM EDT

              This sort of goes along with the way Americans enable lots of bad things that are going on in this country. So, the American landscaping company is going to charge you $75 to mow your lawn but the illegal Mexican is going to charge you $50 to do it. You hire the illegal Mexican. Now whose fault is it that the illegals keep sneaking over here and taking our jobs and putting Americans out of work???? It certainly is NOT the Mexican's fault... it is YOURS!

                #1.70 - Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:49 PM EDT
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                Realistically, I wish the American people would start "stiff-arming" Chinese-made crapola. Turn this country around despite the politicians and Wall St interests... INSIST on Made In The USA !

                • 56 votes
                #2 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:15 AM EDT

                That's right! Seriously, we're the United States of America! We can't make jerky?

                • 26 votes
                #2.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:57 AM EDT

                You can't make anything, except room for a third dessert....

                • 3 votes
                #2.2 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:10 AM EDT

                Then it should be they can't sell their crap in America. They need our consumers. If the "A" holes in Washington had any "Balls" thery would start telling Chin...."NO" to all their crap coming to America and they would get in line!!!!!!

                The real solution is to make it all here, and we Americans will just need to pay more of products made in America. Plus, this will create more jobs in America that creates more spending, more taxes and less American debt for a better economy for all Americans.

                • 20 votes
                #2.3 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:15 AM EDT

                The real solution is to make it all here, and we Americans will just need to pay more of products made in America.

                Alas, it's really not so much about paying more for American products, it's the greed of those who run the companies that has caused jobs to be outsourced. A six-figure salary plus outrageous benefits and bonuses is to a corporate officer as heroin is to a junkie. If these CEO's knew you'd be willing to pay more, they'd gladly raise the prices to fill their bank accounts and still keep sending the work overseas.

                • 19 votes
                #2.4 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

                if you make it at home you can actually save money. for a bag of the waggin trains price you can make twice as much jerky at home. look into dehydrators and you'll find you can get one for anywhere from 40 bucks and up. with what you save from the actual chicken the dehydrator will pay for itself at 40 bucks after making 3 batches.

                • 4 votes
                #2.5 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:10 AM EDT

                A really good treat for dogs is FROZEN GREEN BEANS!! I kid you not! My vet put me on to that one--and my dog loves it! But you have to give it to dogs STILL FROZEN--it's the cold crunchy they love. They won't eat it defrosted.

                Another treat--raw carrots sliced into rounds.

                See how simple, healthful, and cheap that is---yes, we can vote with our money!

                • 10 votes
                #2.6 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:25 AM EDT

                Hey, if Chinese manufacturers don't want US inspectors in, they just tell them to go pound sand, and that's pretty much the end of that story. You know, as well as I do, that the US would never ban a product from China, as long as a US company is making a profit off of it (and maybe greasing a few palms while they are at it).

                If they had to adhear to the same standards as the US, then they wouldn't be able to make them profitable, as their profit comes in cutting corners, using cheaper quality products in their manufacture and putting in cheap additives. If people didn't want the cheapest product available, then they wouldn't buy them, so every dog who gets sick is the responsibility of the owner.

                If you want the cheapest product available, buy it from China, but then you need to understand that it probably isn't healthy for you or your animal, but it is CHEAP!

                I hope a botcott of Nestle and Purina products work, but I think there are too many people addicted to the lowest price possible for it to ever work. Now if WalMart were to boycott them, they would probably stop the manufacture the next day.

                • 7 votes
                #2.7 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:48 AM EDT

                Chinese drywall, leaded toys... but consumers will continue to buy based on one aspect- price.

                • 5 votes
                #2.8 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:30 AM EDT

                Salvia, Not always. I always looks for Made in the USA but some items are not manufacture here anymore...like the techno item I'm inputting these characters on (PC), TVs, stereos, etc. It more of what's available than price. Blame that on the businesses purchasing items for their consumers.

                • 4 votes
                #2.9 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:46 AM EDT

                FlaNative55...the reason they won't tell China to pound sand is because they need China to buy our debt.

                • 2 votes
                #2.10 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

                Why couldn't the FDA just buy a box off the shelf and test that?

                • 3 votes
                #2.11 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:18 PM EDT

                Another outrage, made in China of course.

                I spent several futile weeks a few years ago looking for a baby gift that was made in the USA. This was after the Chinese manufactured leaded paint toy recall but even then I was boycotting China and the Chinamarts. I started at the high end shops to find one thing, ONE made in the USA, a cowboy outfit, but it was for an older child.

                Nearly everything in those shops were made in China. I was shocked. We've even sent them our publishing industry as every child's book in those stores were made in China.

                I found a few German toys again for older children and what I finally purchased, a set of hand knit mukluk style booties made in Canada. CPSIA has probably ensured that this little Canadian craft-works is no longer importing due to it's onerous testing requirements that favor the large manufacturer with deep pockets or that don't mind falsifying import documents, of course the Chinese.

                A very sad state of affairs all around. At this point I buy used, what I can find that is made in the USA, Canada, Europe or Japan, make it myself, or do without. When I first got wind of the jerky treat issue a few years ago I quit buying treats altogether. If my older dog didn't have such a fussy digestive system, we'd make our dog food ourselves. We tried using the best advice available and failed. She failed to digest our home feed properly so we go with one of the best American pet foods available which is Halo. It's not cheap but my dogs are healthy and happy on this food and in 26 years it has never been recalled. It's co-owned by Ellen Degeneres and gets high marks all around for quality. (I have no connection with this company other than being a happy customer.) In addition, my dogs love fruit and vegetable bits. A much better treat anyway.

                I'm tired of sad stories like this. We need to collectively boycott China. Quit buying their crapola and let them twist in the wind.

                • 8 votes
                #2.12 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

                yep, corporate management is sooooo greedy they produce everything in China just to make a few cents more for themselves!!

                Look at what outraged Papa John's pizza CEO said last week. to comply with the ACA, to provide health insurance for their employees, the price of their pizza would have to increase between10-15 cents !!!

                oh the horror............

                • 6 votes
                #2.13 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

                It's really hard to buy "Made in America" because so many American companies sell products with only "distributed by x" on the label. They don't want you to know they're making it in China and pocketing the difference.

                Also, everyone needs to call their Congressman and tell him/her to support the Bring Jobs Home Act (S. 2884). The Senate will pass it, but there's virtually no chance the GOP-led House will approve it - unless we demand it!

                The bill would end a tax deduction for companies that offshore jobs and give companies a 20 percent tax credit for costs associated with bringing jobs that are now overseas back to the United States. Specifically, no tax deduction would be allowed for any specified offshoring expense paid in connection with the elimination of any business unit located within the United States. Nor would it be available for any eligible expense paid in connection with the establishment of any business unit located outside the United States if such establishment constitutes the relocation of a business unit that is eliminated. In order to claim the 20 percent tax credit, employers would have to increase the number of full-time employees in the United States.

                • 7 votes
                #2.14 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

                These guys will show up soon.

                From Wikipedia:

                The 50 Cent Party are Internet commentators (网络评论员, 網絡評論員, wÇŽnglù pínglùn yuán) hired by the government of the People's Republic of China (both local and central) or the Communist Party to post comments favorable towards party policies in an attempt to shape and sway public opinion on various Internet message boards.[1][2] The commentators are said to be paid for every post that either steers a discussion away from anti-party or sensitive content on domestic websites, bulletin board systems, and chatrooms,[3] or that advances the Communist party line.[4][5]


                  #2.15 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:46 PM EDT

                  My dogs now get 2 kinds of treats : little cookie types made locally and sold at the farmers' market and homemade.

                  or homemade, I buy liver from the farmers's market. I give it a thorough wash, dribble some EVOO on the slices and bake them. When they are fully cooked, I cut the slices into small pieces. Those go back into the oven at the lowest temp possible and stay there until they are completely dried out.

                  This is simple, easy and fast. My dogs are getting safe, healthy, yummy treats and I am supporting local producers.

                  • 1 vote
                  #2.16 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:48 PM EDT

                  My cat has decided he doesn't like cat treats anymore. What he likes now are Cheerios.

                  All I have to do is say "Smokey ya want some Os" and he runs in the house like a maniac. That's how I get him in for the night!

                  • 1 vote
                  #2.17 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:29 PM EDT
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                  I work for a company that's subject to FDA audit. If we were cited for violation or refused any requested information or evidence we'd be effectively padlocked until we were found to be in compliance.

                  The thing with the Chinese is it's always difficult to know if they're just being recklessly entrepreneurial or if they're genuinely incapable of higher quality.

                  • 17 votes
                  Reply#3 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:16 AM EDT

                  You don't accidentally add lethal substances to dog treats and you definitely don't accidentally do so two or three or four more times again after that.

                  Allowing these products to continuously enter the USA untested is unacceptable. Importers who continue the practice of buying from countries that poison our pets should face criminal charges that include jail time.

                  If corporations are people, the people who make up those corporations should face the same justice regular people who are criminally negligent face.

                  • 14 votes
                  #3.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:07 AM EDT

                  Well guess the Chinese, told them. You see China, doesn't answer to no one, especially the USA. How about the FDA, have some balls and ban all dog treats made in China. But, we all know when it comes to China, our politicians will bow down to them. This wasn't no accident. How many products do we consume from China? This might happen to us, not just the dogs.

                  • 16 votes
                  #3.2 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:11 AM EDT

                  The US FDA has no real authority in China. It can, however, curtail imports of dangerous products.

                  I try not to buy Chinese junk. And that's what it is--junk. I DO look at labels, and I DO make the effort. It's not too hard.

                  As far as the pet treats, check out the internet for good recipes. Most are very simple and much less expensive. It does require a little time, but it's worth it when you know what you are getting.

                  Every year, I pressure can produce for my family from our garden. I know exactly what is in every jar. I don't worry about insecticides, additives, or dirt. I also know that it is pressure canned and "sterilized." We eat quite well, thank you. I also buy our meat locally. I realize that not all are able to preserve their own foods, but those who can, can!

                  The Chinese don't care anything about the US except for our debt and money. We would be far ahead to get out of debt to them, and produce our own goods. It would help our country all the way around. We would see a dent in our pocketbooks from the (re)fresh start up, but in the long run, we would profit.

                  • 4 votes
                  #3.3 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:12 AM EDT
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                  For about the same price as these imported treats, you can buy some chicken from the store, slice it thin, cook in a 200 degree oven for 2 hours, and have a great home-cooked treat your dogs will love.

                  • 19 votes
                  Reply#4 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:21 AM EDT

                  Eddy W, you can also go on-line and get very simple recipes for dog "cookies" as my girlfriend calls them. They usually have chicken bouillon and garlic powder in them. You know exactly what your dog is eating. "F" the chinese on this one.

                  • 9 votes
                  #4.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:06 AM EDT

                  I cook all my dogs meals and she loves them.The meals include pork,chicken,beef and occationally lamb.Its easy to find pork stew meat on sale,chichen on sale and certain cuts of beef on sale.My cost,excluding my time to cook the meat is about 10% higher than buying premium dog food.Sammie is 7 years old with a body of a 4 year old!

                  • 2 votes
                  #4.2 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:27 AM EDT

                  Fantastic Sammie! BTW what's the dogs name?

                    #4.3 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:09 AM EDT
                    PsychoticaDeleted

                    Don't they have prisons? Don't they have workhouses?

                      #4.5 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:35 PM EDT

                      Actually Psycotica I give to the Missouri Food Bank rather often Did you know the police can arrest you for making the homeless a bunch of sandwiches? You may be poisoning them with rat poison to "cleanse" the streets of vermin. You have to go thru channels to feed people. Inspections, probably a license or five involved.

                      • 1 vote
                      #4.6 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:43 PM EDT
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                      Seriously, doesn't anybody smell a (chicken-flavored) cover-up? What does China need to keep so secret that it cannot cooperate with our Federal FDA? Isn't that a "red flag" that our US Gov't should stop importing everything from China? Over time, the more I read about this story - the more I wonder how many of our government officials would be so inclinded to sit on their hands if it were their pets who died? Even our own president would not dare feed Bo any treats MADE IN CHINA since he has a full-time staff member who prepares homemade meals for his pampered pooch...

                      • 20 votes
                      Reply#5 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:28 AM EDT

                      Why does ANY country has to co-operate with FDA? Who the f do you think you are? You have the "right" to enter any country, anytime, to do any test you wish? How about learning something called "respecting other nations' sovereignty"!

                      • 4 votes
                      #5.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:33 AM EDT

                      Come on new, "respecting other nation's sovereignty" is not the same things as letting Chinese companies sell us products that will kill our dogs (dog food), hurt our children (lead in toys) or any other way harm us.

                      If a company from another country wants to do business in America, they have to meet our standards.

                      Otherwise, they can let the door hit them in the ass.

                      • 11 votes
                      #5.2 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:50 AM EDT

                      "Why does ANY country has to co-operate with FDA?"

                      If they wish to sell products here, they need to comply with our laws and regulations. If not, we can just choose to not allow these products to be sold to Americans.

                      • 10 votes
                      #5.3 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:50 AM EDT

                      That's easy to say, Jay, but as I look around the room I see a lot of "Made in China" labels. The Chinese own the USA and most citizens would not like the increase in prices for products made with high standards for both the product AND the workers.

                        #5.4 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

                        Why does ANY country has to co-operate with FDA?

                        Poison your pets and kids if you want! But, down south here in the US, we don't like it when we get poisoned.

                        Have a good day! AYE!

                          #5.5 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

                          I don't think the common Chinese workers are trying to kill your dog. It is what they are supplied with in the factories. Same as the use of substandard building materials. They don't want the school to fall and kill their kids. It's the wealthy owners who are going for the cheap fillers and the like. Remember they actually went after the makers of that tainted milk stuff that killed those kids.

                          • 2 votes
                          #5.6 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:08 PM EDT
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                          Simple fix. Permanently BAN the treats and anything else made at these plants. It will set the bar higher for other Chinese product manufacturers and will send a clear message that if you don't comply with our safety demands, you will be banned forever from dealing with the largest consumer market in the world.

                          • 14 votes
                          Reply#6 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:29 AM EDT

                          I have stopped buying treats from China. I don't trust them to put out a wholesome product that I would give to my beloved pets. I might start making some treats as someone suggested. Not everyone has the time or inclination to do this, of course. Why can't they be made here in the U.S.? I would pay more if necessary. I agree with others that if the Chinese companies won't allow the FDA to test products to be shipped to the U.S., they should be banned.

                          • 3 votes
                          #6.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:53 AM EDT

                          Try frozen green beans--dogs love the cold crunchiness!

                            #6.2 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

                            You can buy treats made in America. There are a few companies. I use Kona's chips for chicken jerky. It's not really much more costly than the chinese stuff, except that I order it online, so I usually buy more at a time than I normally would buy in a store. But my baby's worth it. Just google Kona's chips.

                              #6.3 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

                              Maybe it is time to boycott Nestle Purina products until they come up with a solution. I feel that they are at fault for continuing to sell the chinese junk. I promise making the treats is not really that time consumming. A few minutes to cut the meat, put it in the dehydrator, wait until it is ready, and put it in a zip lock bag or jar.

                              • 2 votes
                              #6.4 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

                              sbcrow B, ...... YUR TOTALLY RIGHT on trakk! <>BOYCOTT ALL, NESTLE & PURINA >>> DOG, HOG, CAT-food & cattle feed and then sit backkk to watch the MADDDD-assed scrammmmble to gett'ur FIXED ASAP 2, ....!!!!!

                              Peeople (sheeplezz) are dummmmmmmber than dogsquat in general & do-NOT know HOW to comprehend much!!!! SO Saaaad, but true.

                                #6.5 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:26 PM EDT
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                                This doesn't need a whole lot of thought:

                                1. USG ban all products from this manufacturer period.

                                2. Release all the brands using this manufacturer's product to the American Public

                                3. American public boycott the purchase of all US manufacturers using this product.

                                Results no more sick / dead pets right off the bat

                                American manufacturers will look for different sources - slightly longer but an opportunity for American Jobs.

                                We the people of the USA tell China to piss up a rope and our so called leadership can do nothing about it.

                                Case Closed.

                                • 20 votes
                                Reply#7 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:34 AM EDT

                                Boomer, forget anything dealing with our government doing anything about anything, except getting themselves re-elected. This has to start at your wallet, or it won't get done.

                                I've seen it happen before, but it's a slow process; stop buying their sh1t. Just stop buying dog treats made in China. Can it be that hard? You can't stop buying things from those specific factories, because how does anyone know where this junk comes from? But you can damn sure stop buying Chinese dog treats.

                                Come on, dog food from China? Really? Want to know why they own us? Because we would buy horse manure from them if we thought it was cheaper.

                                • 6 votes
                                #7.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:34 AM EDT

                                What really cracks me up is that as a kid we were told "do not feed your dog table scraps, it is unhealthy for them". So we get sucked in to expand our food budget to purchase nicely packaged table scraps with contaminated gluten because that was more healthful for Fido. I don't know whether to laugh or cry but I am feeding my Fido table scraps - that way we both get sick and die and I won't have a broken heart because some greedy businessman wanted to make a few more pennies of profit by importing poison for our dogs to eat.

                                • 3 votes
                                #7.2 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:08 AM EDT
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                                I try to avoid as much as possible anything made in China.....but I NEVER buy candy, pet treats or any food items from China. Personally, I think the US should ban all food items and untested toys from China! Not worth the risk. My 12 yr old son now checks candy etc from places like the dollar store before he buys. If it says "MADE IN CHINA" he puts it back!

                                • 18 votes
                                Reply#8 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:38 AM EDT

                                Liz, absolutely correct. There are plenty of websites that promote "made in America" products. If only people would take a couple seconds and research what and where they can buy American-made products, we would hit China where it really hurts.

                                • 9 votes
                                #8.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:49 AM EDT

                                I agree, simple issue, just ban them. I'm sick of people like Steve Forbes and Jim Rodgers telling us the Chinese are friendly to Business's. That's BS, they can seize you're business anytime they feel like it with no recourse. They are friendly to Wall Street and High end investors with dirt cheap labor and no pollution rules.

                                I don't shop at Wall Mart and I buy American Made Products as often as possible.

                                • 7 votes
                                #8.2 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:57 AM EDT

                                Smart kid Liz. I do the same thing. If you look on the back of some food labels in Wal-Mart, you'll see a lot of our food says made in China. Class action lawsuit for Purina. Where the hell is Peta on this issue? This is Chinas, way of letting us know how easy it is to kill us.

                                • 3 votes
                                #8.3 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:22 AM EDT

                                And, as I pointed out, "Made in the USA" does NOT mean "Made from USA produced ingredints". Call the company and ask them if they outsource ingredients from Asia. If their answer is yes, stop buying their crap and tell them that not only will YOU not buy it, but you will also persuade everyone possible to not buy it.

                                Grassroot opposition can be quite powerful.

                                • 1 vote
                                #8.4 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

                                American brick-and-mortar retailers are really missing the boat. The time is right for stores that sell only items Made-in-USA from raw materials Sourced-from-USA. The selection would be skimpy at first, but if they can show some success it would lead to an explosion of new products that meet the criteria. Bandwagons like this can roll pretty fast.

                                  #8.5 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:51 PM EDT
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                                  Comment author avatarRebecca Shepardvia Facebook

                                  We should vote with out money, do NOT buy anything made from China. I already will not buy anything for my dogs that I am not sure is made here. Also Purina needs to be sued. Hurt them so much financially, they can't afford to take the risk with Chinese products.

                                  • 10 votes
                                  Reply#9 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:38 AM EDT

                                  fed-up Boomer gets it: Don't expect the govt to solve these problems - they'ree too beholden to the monied interests that have convinced them that free, unfettered trade is a good thing.

                                  VOTE WITH YOUR DOLLARS. Insist on Made in USA. ASK a stores manager "Where's the Made in USA stuff ??" Then walk out if the answer is "there isn't any". Even if you buy the M.I.C. crapola from the store next door, the management of the 1st store will get the message that you would have bought from THEIR establishment if they had Made in US products. Lather Rinse, Repeat.

                                  Bring most of the manufacturing back to the USA and you will see our economy turn around.

                                  • 8 votes
                                  Reply#10 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:40 AM EDT

                                  How can companies compete if they have to use $50 an hour union labor with lifetime pensions?

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #10.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:51 AM EDT

                                  warrior - 1) I don't know of anybody who made $50.00 / hour in a Union job. 2) Strange, before all this "outsourcing" BS started, we seemed to make and buy 99% of everything right here in the USA...... People were also satisfied with single-digit rates of return on their investments, and didn't need 8 TV's in their home, an IPad for every kid, etc....................... Stuff lasted longer and didn't need to be replaced on a regular basis as well......

                                  • 12 votes
                                  #10.2 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:04 AM EDT

                                  When you factor in all benefits and pensions, an average auto worker makes way over $50 an hour. A firefighter in San Jose makes $180,000. Unions have priced themselves out of a job in recent decades.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #10.3 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:14 AM EDT

                                  Exactly, Road Warrior! The unions KILLED manufacturing in this country!

                                  I try to buy ALL things made in the US. Electronics are almost impossible but I do try. When I adopted 2 rescues, I went to the local dog store for collars, toys, etc. I was shocked that there are very few collars and toys to be found that were made in the U.S.! They had 1 brand of collars made in the U.S. and though they cost more, I bought them!

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #10.4 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:33 AM EDT

                                  Linda,

                                  Clothing are all made in Mexico or China, too. You can't get more American than Carhartt work clothing, but even they are now made in South America. There is still one brand of sneakers made in the US and it's an excellent shoe. New Balance.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #10.5 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:48 AM EDT

                                  @Road Warrior-252445

                                  Those people are your neighbors, richard. They are the middle class. They buy stuff and send their kids to college, richard.

                                    #10.6 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:01 AM EDT

                                    The "government" works for us and they'd better solve these problems. What makes you think millions of people are going to just give up buying from China on their own?

                                    Nothing should be sold in this country unless it's made to our workplace and environmental standards. If we followed this simple rule there wouldn't be a trade imbalance and we wouldn't have to worry where our treats came from.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #10.7 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:11 AM EDT

                                    Exactly, Road Warrior! The unions KILLED manufacturing in this country!

                                    ...They had 1 brand of collars made in the U.S. and though they cost more, I bought them!

                                    Really? So despite the fact that unions KILLED manufacturing in this country, you still managed to find and buy products manufactured in this country?

                                    Hint: manufacturing in this country was "killed" by a lot of factors, greed being the major one. Greedy corporate management, greedy stockholders, and yes, greedy union management.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #10.8 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:56 AM EDT

                                    The biggest cost to companies is labor. So no matter how many factors you try to blame on the decline of US industries. Labor is always the biggest cost and unions broke the competitive we once had.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #10.9 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

                                    Unions have been in decline in the US since the late 60's. -- Now they account for less than 12% of the workforce. If you believe the BS about unions forcing the decline of US mfg then you've been drinking the Cool Aid put out by the big buisiness interests that have been outsoucing the jobs overseas & lining their pockets by doing it.

                                      #10.10 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

                                      The original purpose of unions was to ensure the American worker wasn't paid crap wages and had to work sixty hour work weeks. The bosses had to give in because there was no out sourceing yet. They didn't have the technology. Well, now they do. Information travels at the speed of light and we have ocean cargo carriers moving billions of dollars of cheap product from Indonesia. Japan and Korea are now the high/mid line products. I'll buy American when I can, but you have to look at some of the smaller manufactures who aren't paying several thousand people. I play guitar and their are several small builders who charge a thousand dollars for a hand built instrument. You can't get a American made Fender of Gibson for near that much(little).

                                        #10.11 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

                                        I should say a few American companies are trying. Martin Guitars est.1833 makes some simple, good instruments for around $900.00 but their cost to build/profit margin is tiny. Also the big factories got hit with an Endangered Wood Act, making it illegal to use certain woods traditional for building. So, they have tried to introduce some similar species abundent in other continents. So, THAT country is making money, not the US. We have in some ways too expensive to support outselves. As a kid in the late sixties, early seventies almost all the cars on the road were Ford, Chevy.....USA made cars. Now it's Japan, Korea.....American cars are just another one on the road. Not a majority anymore. We can't afford it.

                                          #10.12 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:15 PM EDT

                                          I have to chuckle when I hear how union greed supposedly drove manufacturing out of the US. After all, the union members were making so much money that companies could no longer afford to pay exorbitant salaries and bonuses to the multiple layers of management. RIGHT!!! If that had been the case, companies would have done the RESPONSIBLE and PATRIOTIC thing and down-sized salaries and bonuses being paid to a bunch of people who do nothing but smile when they fart and try to convince you it is a rosy breeze you are smelling.

                                          There is a big difference between GREED and NECESSITY!! Union workers had nothing to do with double-digit inflation, multi-million dollar bonuses, stock price manipulation, usury interest rates, or the ever-growing appetite of the super-wealthy for absolute power. They simply demanded that they be paid a wage on which they could live instead of simply subsisting. Union members naively thought management would give back a little of what they were raking in to the people who actually did all the work that paid their salaries and bonuses. They never expected management to be so selfish and greedy and NOT acknowledge their efforts. They never dreamed management would not be content to be "well off" or "comfortable".

                                          After all, how much IS too much?? Management and board members haven't seen the cap on the pay they receive, yet American workers have been capped. Do you hear what they are saying to you?? They are saying, loudly and clearly, that you are worth nothing more than the citizen of a third-world country to them. In fact, they think you ought to be and live more like the desperately poor and down-trodden of the world and accept the scraps that fall from the feasts upon their tables and not demand anymore, and for gods sake - don't whine or cry about being hungry or cold, homeless or naked!!! It's not their problem!!

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                                          #10.13 - Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:54 PM EDT
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                                          Who in their right mind would even feed these things to your pets? Even if there's only a minute chance they could be harmful, let alone lethal.... its a no-brainer if you ask me. Simple solution - don't buy the darn things! Supply and demand economics should eventually urge Nestle to stop importing them. There are plenty of Made in America treats out there if you don't have time to make your own. Duh!

                                          • 6 votes
                                          Reply#11 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:41 AM EDT

                                          You would think it were that easy, but these days, people are willing to sacrifice anything to save a few bucks. To me, it's well worth the extra money spent buying quality food and treats for our pets.

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #11.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:58 AM EDT
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                                          Find out who is using China and don't buy dog products or foods from them. Wallet speaks louder than words.

                                          • 5 votes
                                          Reply#12 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:46 AM EDT

                                          Ban the import of the product - simple and easy.

                                          • 5 votes
                                          Reply#13 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:48 AM EDT

                                          Time to shut it down and pay Americans to produce this!

                                          • 5 votes
                                          Reply#14 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:48 AM EDT

                                          Just be very skeptical of anything made in China and buy any food products from there. We stopped buying the duck and chicken jerkies at Petsmart a year ago.

                                          • 6 votes
                                          Reply#15 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:49 AM EDT

                                          Never put anything in your mouth (or your pets' mouths) that came from China.

                                          It is not easy to know sometimes. Lots of stuff is "Distributed by..." - which means nothing. Try to buy a box of plastic spoons for a picnic. How in the world does it pay to ship an item like that from China? The shipping must be 3/4 of the wholesale cost ! We would probably be better off if the price of oil went to $500 a barrel - companies would be forced to manufacture near the consumer.

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                                          #15.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:01 PM EDT
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                                          Since I first heard about these tainted pet treats I stopped purchasing any dog treats/bones/food labeled as being from China. It is difficult to find products not made in China but it is not impossible. Maybe if we stop buying "Made in China" dog food products from big retailers like Petsmart or Petco they will change the products they stock.

                                          • 5 votes
                                          Reply#16 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:51 AM EDT

                                          We need to send a message to these companies. We will not buy food "Made In China." How many Americans, have health related issues due to eating products from China?

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                                          #16.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:45 AM EDT
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                                          All responsible pet owners should always check the bag of food, treats, etc to ensure that it is made in the USA! Do not buy any pet food, treats, bones, or anything your pet will chew or eat from China. Clearly, they do not care about the safety of our pets. They're only interested in the money. By not cooperating here, they're openly admitting that they're aware their products are contaminated. DON'T BUY FROM CHINA!

                                          All of our dog food is made either in the USA or Canada (Acana). There are plenty of good brands that produce their food right here in this country. If you care about your pets, spend the very little extra money it will cost you on quality food from America. Is your pet's health seriously worth saving a few bucks each month?

                                          Also, big retailers like PetSmart and Petco carry a lot of these crappy brands. We have a couple stores near us (Rumford Pets and Pet Supplies Plus) that carry quality brands that don't have any Chinese suppliers.

                                          • 5 votes
                                          Reply#17 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:51 AM EDT

                                          Merrick makes pet food and treats only in the USA. It's holistic and better for your pet than the "supermarket" foods. My dog has been on Merrick food since she was 7 weeks old (and she'll be 2 next month) and my 2 cats are on the Before Grain variety of Merrick products.

                                          http://www.merrickpetcare.com/merrick-local-growers.php

                                          There's also Blue Buffalo. It's another holistic food that is manufactured in the US.

                                          http://www.bluebuffalo.com/health/faq#question3

                                          Holistic foods for pets are manufactured using human-grade ingredients. There's no "chicken byproducts", plenty of fruits and veggies, quality meat and the fats and nutrients that our pets need. STOP BUYING NON-HOLISTIC FOODS AND TREATS.

                                          Merrick is available through PetCo and retailers online. Blue Buffalo is available at both PetCo and PetSmart.

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #17.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:25 AM EDT

                                          Merrick is a great food. We give our two shih tzus a couple teaspoons each meal canned Merrick food which is excellent. They have excellent variety and the ingredients are great. No byproducts, no fillers, and more recently, Merrick's wet food has transitioned to grain-free. We used to feed them Taste of the Wild, but after the recent salmonella scare this year, we switched them to Acana (same company that makes Orijen). That, topped off with some Merrick wet food, and we have two very happy dogs.

                                            #17.2 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:53 AM EDT
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                                            There's a solution to this problem. Just don't buy it. What would you rather to stop buying or have a dead pet? Nestle is partially to be blamed also.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            Reply#18 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:53 AM EDT

                                            This is pretty simple. If anyone denies access to American inspectors doing what they would do to a company in the US, they should not be allowed to sell their goods in the US. They can use whatever standards they want and poison their own pets if they want, but market access to the US must be on the same terms as domestic American companies.

                                            Check your food package labels. If it says "Made in China," don't buy it. And don't buy other Nestle products either... if they're this callous, who knows what their human products are doing top us. Multinationals + China = dead, where it comes to food, it seems.

                                            • 6 votes
                                            Reply#19 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:53 AM EDT

                                            I always insist on Made In Usa products. There are chicken jerky treats now available that are made in the USA. Pet Supplies & Petco carry them. The staff, unfortunately doesn't know this( I asked where the Made In USA jerky was), they stated there was none. I insisted there was & went directly to it. Brought it to the register & informed the manager that he needed to train the staff a bit more. The point is... chicken jerky made here is now available. Look for it.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            Reply#20 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:56 AM EDT

                                            Maybe it's time to stop importing their poison laced products and start making things here at home again.

                                            • 5 votes
                                            Reply#21 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:57 AM EDT

                                            I intend to send a message to Nestle, and if we all did that, maybe they would get the message.........................

                                            • 2 votes
                                            Reply#22 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:58 AM EDT

                                            Stop importing ANY AND ALL food products from China. Period!

                                            • 4 votes
                                            Reply#23 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:58 AM EDT

                                            ANYTHING you buy from China is usually sub standard! Nestle has a long history of messing with the truth as well. They had massive programs to get African women to use Nestle formula as opposed to breast milk. The result was these African babies did not get the extra health benefits from breast milk.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            Reply#24 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:58 AM EDT

                                            Why are you not blaming Nestle? instead of China? Seems to me Nestle is the guilty party.

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #24.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:35 AM EDT

                                            I agree, the rich biz person has to stop...... When you watch shark tank about people enventions they say are you willing to have it made in china? if not you can"t make money...... BULL FART!!! Free traid, the only one making out is the big biz man.....

                                              #24.2 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:33 PM EDT
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                                              Tainted animal food from China and the "gee, I don't know" attitudes of the American dog food suppliers have been a problem for several years now, so it shouldn't be a surprise. Look, don't buy the crap and you won't have to worry. What's so hard about that?

                                              • 4 votes
                                              Reply#25 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:59 AM EDT

                                              Ur correct - Just don't buy the Crap

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                                              #25.1 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:39 AM EDT

                                              After reading all of these comments above, I have a couple of questions.

                                              1) Should I continue to buy dog food products from China?

                                              2) Should we ban all pet food products made in China from the US?

                                              3) Can you make your own dog food treats?

                                              I don't see anyone asking these tough questions?

                                              • 2 votes
                                              #25.2 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:01 AM EDT

                                              To answer number one, no, don't buy ANY dog products from China. Evidence has shown that pet food products sourced from China are not safe for your pets. Who in their right mind, after reading this article and the health risks associated with pet food from China, would continue to buy from crappy brands like Purina? These companies don't care about your pets. Their number one priority is their bottom line. The more money they make, the happier they are. They don't care if your dog dies. It's a shame but it's true.

                                              • 3 votes
                                              #25.3 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

                                              FlaNative55,

                                              1. No

                                              2. Yes

                                              3. Certainly, there are even cookbooks

                                              On a side note, boycott Nestle Purina until they bring the manufacturing home.

                                              • 2 votes
                                              #25.4 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:58 PM EDT

                                              Home to Switzerland?

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #25.5 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

                                              FlaNative,

                                              your sarcasm is noted - witty.

                                                #25.6 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:06 PM EDT
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