back at you Al

I love all these comments about big pharma. Guess what, they are still alive because of big pharma.

Its AboutTime I notice you keep it short and sweet. Way too short for sure. Obama can do nothing because the states are broke. There wont be anymore unfunded mandates from either Libs or Rhinos because the government is broke. We can just keep on printing money and that wont work either. this has nothing to do with either Dems or Repubs but everything to do with the economy. The monetary pump is broken and our money will become worth less and less until even the well off AIDS patient will be hard pressed to pay up front for meds and care. You can't even rob the pharmaceuticals because they all ready give aids meds below cost to the world since the 90's. You need to rethink your lib talking points.

How do you get AIDS? Damn, I can't remember. Comes from Musquitos?

And big pharma is still alive because of Uncle Sam.

Al, I suppose you mean the babies that get infected, or organ donor recipients, or hetro. infecter's, or blood transfusion recipients, dirty needles, hospital personnel. What a guy, a real boil on humanity's arse.

GOP plan? Tell those kids to use condums?

The GOP has NO Plan. If they're gonna cut Medicaid and Social Security and all the remaining Social Service programs, why in the world would they want to help people with HIV?

Goes against all their extremist evangelical ideals. You know, the ones that start with: Love thy neighbor UNLESS they are a minority, women, poor, sick, young and elderly, or of some other religion.

Regarding condoms, in Wisconsin the GOP has legislated requiring abstinence to be taught over contraception. And of course, once a baby is born it is on its own in the GOP world.

And big pharma is still alive because of Uncle Sam.

And econ and history aren't your stong points.

The GOP has NO Plan

Here it is. Take back all the money going to Africa and use it for these patients. That was easy.

Actually it is not the responsibility of the GOP, Democrat, Independent Voter, it is the responsibility of the individual. This disease is not one you can just "get", it is a behavior driven infection. You cannot say that enough money has not been spent on education, there has been billions of dollars already spent. If there is a chance you can get sick by any other disease you take the personal responsibility to ensure your safety, Why is this disease any different?

There is no cure but an ounce of prevention is STILL worth a pound of cure. Of course this doesn’t work for the unfortunate few who get infected due to accidental contact with infected fluids from carriers of this pestilence. These accidental victims should be the first in line to receive treatment.

The prevention that works every time it is tried is abstinence until married both for the male and female and monogamy after marriage. WOW!!! Almost sounds like our creator knew what He was talking about. Another reason Obamacare is going to bankrupt the nation. Maybe we should start teaching abstinence in school as a means of cutting the dept. The cost of our sin embracing society is really beginning to add up.

Romans 1:22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

@TJefferson...You made an extremely ignorant comment. It is not in whole a behavior driven infection. Some people get it with no fault of their own. Have some compassion.

will,

"The prevention that works every time it is tried is abstinence until married both for the male and female and monogamy after marriage."

While I have no doubt about the wisdom of what you are saying, I think we are talking about the real world here; not some imaginary ideal world.

HIV/AIDS is God's punishment for immoral behavior and BIG GOVERNMENT is not the answer. On a completely different topic, we need BIG GOVERNMENT to keep giving handouts to farmers in the mid-west to compensate for the drought that the free market cannot handle and that they didn't save enough for. We also need a huge military with socialst health-care to pre-emptively invade random Middle Eastern countries.

Religious nuts and gay-bashers who are most likely deeply closeted gays aside, there are practical issues that people seem to ignore:

1) HIV/AIDS is not a homosexual disease but is mostly a heterosexual disease. Most of the people coming down with AIDS got it from heterosexual partners (often prostitutes and IV drug users) or from "collateral" exposures such as plasma or white cell infusions, clotting factors, etc that combine blood products from hundreds or thousands of people into one dose.

2) HIV/AIDS is rising among young people and one of the major reasons is very little discussed: the circumcision rate among male babies has dropped dramatically. Circumcision can reduce the heterosexual transmission of AIDS by as much as 60% and some other STDs by as much as 90%.

3) The HIV/AIDS infected have the potential to effect everyone because they form a reservoir of disease that finds its way into people's lives through whatever means is possible. To cut down the threat, you have to cut down on the reservoir --- locally, nationally, and globally or it is difficult to find how it can be prevented in the general absence of a cure.

4) There may be a cure somewhere on the distant horizon. There is the famous "Berlin patient" and a couple of new people who have had bone marrow transplants from people with a genetic mutation that causes the body's immune system to destroy the virus. So, while it is distant and expected to be very, very expensive there may be a cure in a couple of decades.

5) But until there is a cure, the sanest public policy is to educate people about how AIDS/HIV is transmitted, and to make sure that they have access to the appropriate drugs and stay on them. While crazy people and haters and pseudo-christians can't see it, disease threatens everyone, not just mythical "others."

hypocrisy,

"HIV/AIDS is God's punishment for immoral behavior"

If that's the case, I guess we can say with just as much validity that plane crashes are God's punishment for man's flying when God did not give him wings.

Alternative health care should also be available and affordable.

AND (not talking about babies and unwitting contractors of the virus) high schools should add "risky behaviors = HIV" to sex-ed....am familiar with a very large suburban school system where AIDS / HIV are mentioned but NOT in connection with personal accountability & STDs. Absurd.

The only reason this is the real world is because we have made, or allowed it to be made, that way. And you are right, Pandora's box has been open and it will be almost impossible to shut it. It did not happen overnight and it will not be fixed over night. We are reaping the harvest of the sexual and cultural "revolution" of the last half century. We have said to God "we don't need you" and have cast Him out of almost every public venue in our nation. Therefore God has taken His hand of protection off of our society. We have set ourselves and our "knowledge" and "higher education" up as gods and the demons of hell are having a hay day.

Do not be deceived, God is not mocked.

A person reaps what they sow.

will,

"We are reaping the harvest of the sexual and cultural "revolution" of the last half century."

That's not quite true, Will. You are overlooking the fact that the U.S. and Europe both went through a major epidemic of syphilis in the late 19th. and early 20th. centuries until the discovery of the sulfa drugs. Where was the sexual revolution at that time?

1) HIV/AIDS is not a homosexual disease but is mostly a heterosexual disease. Most of the people coming down with AIDS got it from heterosexual partners (often prostitutes and IV drug users) or from "collateral" exposures such as plasma or white cell infusions, clotting factors, etc that combine blood products from hundreds or thousands of people into one dose.

Yes, it s not a matter of "gay bashing"....ALL forms of immoral behavior should be discouraged.

2) HIV/AIDS is rising among young people and one of the major reasons is very little discussed: the circumcision rate among male babies has dropped dramatically. Circumcision can reduce the heterosexual transmission of AIDS by as much as 60% and some other STDs by as much as 90%.

Yes. The wisdom behind another one of those "superstitious religious practices" becomes apparent to modern man. Do you think maybe there is a link between human welfare and all forms of morality ?

3) The HIV/AIDS infected have the potential to effect everyone because they form a reservoir of disease that finds its way into people's lives through whatever means is possible. To cut down the threat, you have to cut down on the reservoir --- locally, nationally, and globally or it is difficult to find how it can be prevented in the general absence of a cure.

Simple moral behavior is an almost 100% certain preventative. Imagine how small the "reservoir" would be if AIDS hadn't been spread by homosexuials to begin with.

4) There may be a cure somewhere on the distant horizon. There is the famous "Berlin patient" and a couple of new people who have had bone marrow transplants from people with a genetic mutation that causes the body's immune system to destroy the virus. So, while it is distant and expected to be very, very expensive there may be a cure in a couple of decades.

We can always hope for a cue.

5) But until there is a cure, the sanest public policy is to educate people about how AIDS/HIV is transmitted, and to make sure that they have access to the appropriate drugs and stay on them. While crazy people and haters and pseudo-christians can't see it, disease threatens everyone, not just mythical "others."

The "sanest" and most effective policy would be simple adherence to moral behavior. Notice how that thought DOESN'T EVEN OCCUR to the modern, secular, liberal mind ?!?!? Why bash "pseudo-Christians" when all scientific evidence, and your own admissions, show that simple moral behavior would be a nearly "miraculous" solution to the AIDS epidemic ? Why is such a simple thing not even considered in the modern world ? Morality is to HELP humanity, not to "restrict your freedom".

THE GOVT IS NOT BROKE! It simply doesn't have enough money as it would like to fund Military/Defense and Bush's Tax Cuts for the Wealthy (misrepresented as Job Creators). In order to keep bailing out banks & corporations including building and rebuilding mideast countries, Republicans have decided that people who work should give up their benefits.

The reason health care and Medicare is so expensive is because PROVIDERS & INSURANCE COMPANIES overcharge. Don't think so--try getting an estimate for an MRI or CT Scan. Try shopping competitively for these services. Medical profits are huge because providers can charge whatever they want. And people are too inadequately informed to know any better. "Oh, my doctor said I needed an MRI because my stomach is swollen. I wouldn't debate what my doctor told me."

People are going to pay for this in any case. Contagious, infectious diseases that go untreated create epidemics. When cases get severe enough, the uninsured go to emergency rooms and get treatment which we pay for eventually.

Are you going to tell insurers and providers not to raise prices because of services to the uninsured? No. In fact, the more people who are uninsured, the more costly medical care to you.

You believe you are securing your existence when you deny resources to others. It has never worked that way.

So liberals, the solution to everything is a handout... Suggest you go look at California to see how well that works. If you don't like that, look at Greece, Spain, France...

I feel for those infected, but I'm sorry the answer to everything is NOT a handout.

I hate to tell you all but there was plenty, and I mean plenty, of out-of-wedlock sex going on all through the ages. If AIDs had been around 100 years ago when everyone was "moral", it still would have spread like wildfire, probably worse than today. "modern, secular, liberal, mind"....come on. I've worked my family's genealogy and I have proof in court documents from the 1860s that my great-great-great grandmother and grandfather had a shotgun wedding because she got pregnant. Then they divorced because he didn't want to have anything to do with her. This is in a rural, very religious area of the country mind you. People will have sex, the only thing that's different is how much we talk about it.

ItsAboutTime-3704531

Okay GOP, what is your plan to help on this one... or is it, "Sorry, we are not responsible"

When it comes to people who live their lives like they will be rescued by the government all the time, let them suffer, they deserve it. When it is people who use drugs and live sexually like they are not going to get infected, let them suffer, they asked for it.

Best solution, personal responsibility for your own actions, if you live irresponsibly we aren't going to come rescue you.

Bring back consequences and a lot of people will change in a hurry.

@Motor and other such idiots,

you can get HIV from coming into contact with infected blood. Sexual contact is not the only way to get it and HIV occurs naturally. It is not a "punishment" except in the minds of sick individuals looking to find ways to justify their own bigotry by hiding behind God's skirt.

Anyone, gay or straight or triangle, can become infected; it has nothing to do with deviant behavior, which by the way is subjective anyway.

Hah! 75% of the U.S. lacks access to any care!

Itsabouttime -- it is not the responsibility of Government to pay for he risky behavior of others. It's neither a Democrat or Republican problem, it is the problem of the individual. AIDS is caused by Risky Behavior (IV Drugs, Risky Sex,etc.). You do the behavior, AIDS is a possibility you accept. You can go to any hospital for treatment.

Geowil - AIDS does not happen naturally!!!

KeenInsight -- It is Democrats and the Socialist O'Bamathat have decided that people who work should give up their benefits.

'not in whole a behavior driven infection' It is COMPLETELY 'behavior driven '..... whether on the part of the recipient having sex with those who they should not, or the infected donor, having sex regardless of the effect on their partner[s]. With improved testing, I assume that infection via blood transfusions has been eliminated...

Few HIV cases are contracted from dirty needles or blood transfusions. The lion share is due to the sodomite lifestyle. People do need to take responsibility for their actions, and think about the potential consequences. Especially when they already know what they are. pray for these people, they need Jesus.

justin.case,

"the gay community, they started it and now we pay..thanks so much."

The gay community did not start the AIDS epidemic. It originated in Africa and was spread to the U.S. from there. The gay community is as much a victim of AIDS as is the heterosexual community.

Joe,

HIV is not AIDS. HIV allows AIDS to develop in immune-compromised individuals. HIV on the other hand was first discovered in primates. How it evolved and began infecting humans is up for discussion. It is a blood born disease, it cannot survive outside of the body for very long if at all. It is true that homosexuals are more likely to become infect however I think that has more to do with condom usage than it does the actual sex part.

I think this because heterosexuals can also become infected through sex. With heterosexual couples though condom usage may be much higher, thus less chance of becoming infected. Not basing that on any factual information, just an observation/hypothesis.

Hey Al,

thanks for proving that humans can be conceived and delivered anally !!

hope you cant breed ! or vote !

Most HIV infections are sexually transmitted followed by needle sharing behavior. Accordingly transmission can largely be prevented. Those that fail to prevent transmission are responsible to themselves and others they infect and should be executed for doing so. The rest of the population should be quarantined.

Saying you can get HIV thru Innocent means like a transfusion takes the rare exception and calls it the rule for the sake of lying about the virus population. The person who did not get the virus thru sexual contact or drug did not engage in risky behavior and until he does he should not be quarantined. For those who do not agree with this idea maybe you will when a family member becomes infected. For the rest of you I hope you never experience a preventable disease and for those who contacted the disease for what ever reason, I hope there is a cure, until then we need to quarantine like every other life threatening communicable disease.

Todd Green,

"Saying you can get HIV thru Innocent means like a transfusion takes the rare exception and calls it the rule for the sake of lying about the virus population."

Tell that to little Ryan White who died of an HIV infected blood transfusion because he was a hemophiliac. Oh, wait, you can't! He's been dead for the past 22 years now. People have and do get HIV from blood transfusions, and testing has not eliminated it.

yep , the religious freaks all love to hate anyone that doesn't act like they think god told them too.

no different from the taliban, and just as backwards

Why is it that the people who say that we reap what we sow are always global warming deniers?

chris, its because they think they are special and their magical sky fairy will fly down and save them from their stupidity while punishing those that don't follow their irrational belief system

And our government collects taxes from these same HIV patients and spends the money (billions) fighting AIDS in other countries. F YEAH MERICA!

Anarius,

"yet there are commercials on TV every day asking us to donate for AIDS relief in Africa..."

If I'm not mistaken, the AIDS relief in Africa project was President Bush's program. It's a good one. Africa has a tremendous problem with AIDS which is made worse by the fact that they are so poor, but you are right to the extent that maybe we should be paying more attention to the problem here at home than we are. Obviously, the problem is quite serious here, too, and is not receiving the attention it deserves.

If I'm not mistaken, the AIDS relief in Africa project was President Bush's program. It's a good one.

Who gives a sh!t who started it. I don't care about the peope in Africa, I care about Americans. Every dime sent there could be a dime these patients could use to get care.

Not only are you hater but a racist to boot! hehehe

Not only are you hater but a racist

The new democrats's response for non-agreement.

bigger, yeah every dime, how about if you don't have insurance out the door, emergency room, treat you once unless the person is dying out the door. In some folk's estimation, AIDs patients are no never mind people, not worth the long term treatment, they're going to die anyway. Duh, and oh, hypothetical, who will administer this large pool of money that accumulates from the over-seas funds. Yup, hospital, insurance company's, pharmas, middle-men, etc. If there is a buck to be made the vultures will descend. Universal Health care for Americans is a right not a privilege.

bigger, yeah every dime,

I read your post twice and I still don't understand. If you don't like the fact I'm taking every dime from africans, fine - take every dime going to the middle east.

biggerGovtIsTheAnswer,

"I don't care about the peope in Africa, I care about Americans. Every dime sent there could be a dime these patients could use to get care."

Since when has it become your responsibilty to determine how others donate their money?

Since when has it become your responsibilty to determine how others donate their money?

It's not, just like these aids patients are not my responsibility either.

biggerGovtIsTheAnswer,

"It's not, just like these aids patients are not my responsibility either."

Your answer reminds me of the story of Cain and Abel in the book of Genesis (that's in the Bible) when God asked Cain, who had just finished killing his brother Abel, where his brother was, and Cain insolently answered, "Am I my brother's keeper?" I guess your answer to that question is, "No, I'm not". That's your decision to make.

Thanks Mickey, I'm not much on fairy tales.

biggerGovtIsTheAnswer,

"I'm not much on fairy tales."

That's too bad! Fairy tales often have a moral you can learn something from.

Mickey-1983943

biggerGovtIsTheAnswer,

"I'm not much on fairy tales."

That's too bad! Fairy tales often have a moral you can learn something from.

Bah hahahahaha!

And we have a winner ladies and gentlemen...... Mickey-1983943 insinuates that BigGov's moral tank is empty, and he's does it to defend his ideas about immoral people.

Don't you just love this place, it's filled with hypocrites.

Duphas,

"Mickey-1983943 insinuates that BigGov's moral tank is empty, and he's does it to defend his ideas about immoral people."

Huh?

"donate for AIDS relief in Africa..." Unless proven otherwise, I assume that virtually all of these ' relief appeals ' are scams, with little, if any of the donations making it to the poor souls we see in the ads... even the American Red Cross, generally considered a legitimate aid agency, with thousands of volunteers, spends very little of donations on the disasters which the ARC uses as fund-raising mechanisms....

George,

"Unless proven otherwise, I assume that virtually all of these ' relief appeals ' are scams, with little, if any of the donations making it to the poor souls we see in the ads... even the American Red Cross, generally considered a legitimate aid agency, with thousands of volunteers, spends very little of donations on the disasters which the ARC uses as fund-raising mechanisms...."

I don't think that is true. I was just watching the PBS News Hour last night, and they were talking with an African ambassador who said the situation in Africa has improved greatly as a result of the AIDS efforts on the part of the U.S. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation as well as the AIDS Foundation created by the British singer, Elton John, have both been very active in Africa.

Elton John's foundation is the Ryan White Foundation, by the way.

Well, well, well! This is what happens when the morally defunct refuse to shoulder the responsibilities of their own choices. Liberals take note, there are these things called C-H-O-I-C-E-S. Each choice comes with something called a C-O-N-S-E-Q-U-E-N-C-E! There are good choices which bring with them good consequences and then there are bad choices that come with equally bad consequences. It is against the will and economy of God to make a good choice and then to receive a bad consequence and vice versa. When you of your own will and choice go off and do something that is sinful and immoral in nature, you lose the protections that blessings of God have to offer. Same thing goes when you make choices that are in harmony with the will of God, He is bound by universal laws of Heaven to protect you and He cannot punish you. The problem is that the overwhelming majority of Liberals(those who possess more of the willingness to openly rebel against that God that wants to bless us), think that by removing God out of their lives, they can find a way out of this whole good choice-good consequence/bad choice-bad consequence thing and set up their own rules that everyone must live by. They(liberals) are living this whole lifestyle that their bad choices are our fault and not theirs and that their good choices are to our detriment. Liberals are a bunch of spiritually immature people who need these valuable lessons in life to remind them of how important it is to keep in harmony with Heavenly Father and His laws or suffer as a result of the loss of protective blessings. So, this whole 'equal rights' thing that liberals and especially 'alternate lifestyles' groups need to remember is that there is more of a need for 'equal responsibilities' than there is for 'equal rights'. Also, if you(meaning those who are 'equal rights' crybabies) can't or don't want to remember to pay the price for your behaviors and conduct, then there is NOTHING I will do or want to do in order to help you out. I have enough of my own poor choices due to my imperfections to take care of to be able to shoulder you out in these self-induced crises of yours.

The_Messenger,

"Also, if you(meaning those who are 'equal rights' crybabies) can't or don't want to remember to pay the price for your behaviors and conduct, then there is NOTHING I will do or want to do in order to help you out."

Yada, yada, yada. We've heard all that old tripe before at least a million times. Who was it that said, "Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy"? Why I believe it was Jesus Christ himself who said that (Matthew 5:7). But in your version of Christianity there does not appear to be any room for mercy and hence no room for Jesus Christ either. Why is it that you worship such a vengeful God?

You got it all wrong, dude! I don't worship a vengeful God, I worship a God that isn't afraid to dole out the 'Tough Love'. If you feel as if you can make wrong choices and get blessed by doing so, then you worship a God who must be a lot dumber than you are. God is bound by universal laws and principles and if that means that He withdraws Himself and His Spirit from those who make incorrect choices, then so be it and if He were to bless those who are making those wrong choices then He ceases to be God. If you were at school and you were taking a test or doing homework and if your teacher gives you positive credit for wrong answers, then your teacher shouldn't be teaching. It is the same with what we go through in this school called life and if God were to bless us(aka--giving us points) for making wrong choices, then He ought not to be God and should be removed from His divine calling as the Father of Heaven. Unlike the misled such as yourself, I know that I must be penalized for sinning and transgressing celestial laws. I don't go around and try to criticize God and His servants for calling me on my wrong decisions and reminding me that such immoral behavior has its consequences. You do and not only are you wrong in making those incorrect decisions but you compound the severity of your sins by trying to bash God's ordained servants and you in essence bash God Himself. Since you feel as if I should be the one to pay for others' wrong choices, then I feel as if you should pay for mine. So, I guess that I should just go out and violate my oaths and covenants that I made with God and my wife and go have tons of adulterous relationships and say that you are the one to atone for my sins. So, there! Does that leave a pretty tasty feeling in your mouth?

messenger, a whole lot of babble justifying nothing

I hope that all these people stop having sex, which is what is required.... I well know that it is an excessively hopeful thought.... " What, me deny myself, for the sake of my partners, the country, and humanity in general .... no chance !! "

'Its actually mostly republicans who are against easy access to condoms and sex education at school.' Right-winger that I am, I'm against the entire public school agenda.... pathetic outputs, homosexual agenda, wide-spread sexual molestation, anti-American propaganda, multi-culturalism: condoms and sex-education are the LEAST of it....

George- With regards to the sex part....yeah ok...you first hot shot. And to the latter part of your message...You know you can get all those agendas and more regardless public, private or home schooling right? Just a different "teacher" or gate keeper of information....

MOmaid

Boy, nbc news will lose NO opportunity toe shill for the Obama admin on the HCB, huh?

And I highly doubt that you can even get DEMS to educate kids on the perils of unprotected sex.

Its actually mostly republicans who are against easy access to condoms and sex education at school.

Nothing much easier than going to 7-11 and buying a condom

yea cause condoms work every time they are tried.

The prevention that works every time it is tried is abstinence until married both for the male and female and monogamy after marriage. This is the onlyTRUE definition of safe sex because it is from the owners manual of the one who created us.

This is what we should be teaching our kids. Maybe hang some billboards up and have some commercials on TV similar to the anti smoking adds. Some dude in the last stages of aids showing us how he gets ready to go out. It can't be any more graphic than a woman with a hole in her throat eat up with cancer.

LOL.. owner's manual.... one who created us....

If YOU choose to believe in mythical creatures and their teachings; you should keep that to yourself. Mythical beings aren't going to swoop out of the sky and save us all.. its called "free will" for a reason..

The concept of individual-responsibility, along with that of honor and patriotism, have virtually been eliminated from our society...

George, add "rational though" to your list, which you also don't seem to display.

My one wish. That those who don't believe in helping others suffer from it themselves.

I hope so too. It isnt hard to find good programs out there ..you can find out through your county hospitals and health department about what programs are out there. It takes alittle research and some phone calls but they are out there. The meds are very expensive its true but there are programs that offer help. Without them my son would not be here today. I thank god for the good people in this world who care enough to help rather then judge. My son is not an addict or gay or irresponsible sexually he just happened to be one of the unfortunate ones who got infected. Unfortunaely things happen.

Most of the fear of HIV/AIDS is generated from ignorance and lack of education.

Not breaking news..Doug sucks !

And mas, is hanging the elephants major muscle.

You are soo right..they only care about the money and thats the bottom line. I think its pathetic to live in a country where everyone is one sickness away from being forced into bankruptcy. The government is too interested in making sure the doctors (reminder:who took an oath, and who would still make a boatload of cash under universal healthcare), drug companies and corporations profits is more important then their population. They need to remember who put them in office.

I'm also sick of these guys saying Soc. secutrity is an entitlement..we paid into it and it didnt cost them a dime. Funny how they never minded borrowing from the pool though huh? guess they think if the spin it enough it will make it true. Idiots!

By the way I think the popular vote and not the electoral college should decide who wins office.

Who going to pay for it! LIsten AIDS would disappear in 50 years if the guys would return to wearing pants with zippers in the front rather than rear of their pants!

mas, your still hanging onto the elephants major muscle, stop sucking.

Gary, Simply pointing a finger does not solve a problem. How does your Omnescent "Health Care System" create a situation where people will unquestionably use condoms, not share needles, avoid rough sex, and not give blood when infected? These are all personal choices that the big "Health Care System" has some influence, but no overwhelming control, over. Rationalization and idealizing the "Big Picture" is simplistic and at the heart of the Nanny-Staters, like yourself. Lastly, what in the world does MediCare have to do with the issue. By the looks of it, you are close to retirement, under prepared and worried about your own personal future. Looks like self interest lost out to your original Omnescent "Health Care System". Bye now and don't share needles. I just did my part.

'Republicans fight to prevent the expansion of medicaid .." Having paid into it for 40+ years, I object to the looting of Medicare to pay for said expansion... Just as I object to the looting of Social Security....

William, how right you are. Poor, sick, old, hungry, homeless, your not worth anything. Go away and don't embarrass the well fed, healthy, wealthy, don't forget also, the least among us are lazy, parisitic bums that have no worth. Disgraceful and shameful attitudes, but not surprising.

Obama 2012

@Turner#1 - 'William, how right you are. Poor, sick, old, hungry, homeless, your not worth anything. Go away and don't embarrass the well fed, healthy, wealthy, don't forget also, the least among us are lazy, parisitic bums that have no worth. Disgraceful and shameful attitudes, but not surprising.' - you forget that they say this on their way to church, clutching a bible....that they apparently haven't read or don't understand ;)

Our church does quite a bit to feed the hungry and homeless.... and we do it out of concern, giving our labor and money. We don't require salary, health-care benefits, and retirement, as do the public sector 'workers' that President Obama is pandering to.... and it is worth reflecting upon the fact that only @ 25% of appropriated monies in government social programs make it to the people in need.... The overwhelming bulk of the money is absorbed by overhead. Whereas 90%+ of money donated to Catholic charities makes it to the needy.... because WE are about helping the needy, not growing government, and buying Democrat votes...

brainwashed robot!

sloppy, good moniker for sloppy thinking. Hollywood, seriously, how about big oil, Koch Boys, Casino Moguls, Adelson, et al. And listen up wish I had some good weed. Crawl out of the elephants arse tool.

Obama 2012

The Affordable Care act wil make a huge difference.

It sure will, it will push this country to collapse.

It's not Republicans you should be angry with,its the public employee unions! They are the only ones getting paid today and the only ones retiring with bloated income,health,vision and dental packagesSome state incomes require the majority of money collected be set aside for future benefits for these greed bastards! Callthe unions and ask them to pay for the bills of AIDS patients in these states.Maybe they can adopt an AIDS patient and make them eligible for the great health care programs and benefits available to them!

Michael are you serious? Amazing, I hope they take your money first. Hopefully you'll move to a wonderful blue state and relish the standing in lines and limited care you'll receive from the wonderful bleeding heart bureaucracy. Shocking lack of understanding on your part.

mas, still hanging on to the elephants major muscle, stop sucking. Ignorant fool. Public unions, again, tell that to the fire fighters, first responders, or emts., the next time pick you up out of the gutter Access and medical care is not a privilege but a human right. Silly fox howler.

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Texas, one of the states refusing to implement ObamaCare, was cited the top state for business by MSNBC, and has grabbed that title 3 of the last 6 years. That means fuller employment, affluent citizens, increased charitable giving, and a greater ability to take care of those in need in Texas, WITHOUT increased government spending.... and, Texas being Texas, there will doubtless be a competition to see who can ' do the most ' to help the needy....

Health care is a commodity, just like anything else. Calling it a ' right' is nonsense...

Still Sloppy no just sloppier thinking, well I guess the obstructionists, do nothing, look out for the rich guy congress might have something to do with current state of affairs. Mitch McConnell said it very well, that the repugs. were going to stop everything the President tries to do, they (repugs.) didn't quite succeed with everything, no they did not. Tool for the worst of the right wing-nuts.

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Obama is excellent at saying one thing, and doing the exact opposite....

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Obama has proven he is incompetent. Throw the bum out.

Political hyperbole! Nothing else.Anyone in america,rich or dead broke has healthcare available to them.Yes you are correct.You may not be able to see someone in the Mayo Clinic but I pay my own and couldn't either! Your hand being broken is just another analogy used to prove most people think they are entitled to unlimited entitlements!Well maybe,its time to go and get a job !

mas, that hind teat is getting in the way of some coherent thinking. Go to the emergency room, come out with a $2,000 bill, go bankrupt. The American way of life. Medical care is not a privilege its a right. Good lock-step soldier for the mighty, dirty right.

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So you are basically saying that everyone with HIV only has one brain cell and is a gay drug addict crackhead whore??

Your judgement and compassion is astonishing. I pity you!

Brian, lets see, babies with risky behavior, medical personnel with risky behavior, intentional infecters, first responders risky behaviors, blood transfusion recipients, yes some blood doesn't get screened properly, even today, dirty surgical instruments, improper organ donor screening, harvested human parts (skin, corneas, bone) improperly screened. Geez, all because of risky behavior. Its not only a Gay disease fool. Another one, with its head so far up the elephant's arse that no real cognitive thinking can be done. Moron.

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Judging by your reading comprehension I must assume you are at high risk of AIDs as well.

I was talking about the people that are NOT getting medical attention.

Infected babies, health care workers, conscientious gay people and drug users, etc. ARE seeking and getting care. Note I didn't even mention "gays" in my comment so why the f are you saying "Its not only a Gay disease fool".

My point was that those most at risk to themselves and to the population as a whole are spreading AIDs not because of the availability of medical care. You can bring it directly to them gift wrapped and they would not take advantage of it.

I understand you are too stupid to get that so I'll simply feel sorry for you and avoid any blood contact with you.

Yes, anal sex spreads HIV more often than vaginal sex does, but you are being very narrow minded in tying all anal sex to gay couples. I know many many straight couples who have anal sex too (and no it isn't my bag before all the trolls come out to play). Also, anal sex in monogamous relationships is VERY unlikely to spread HIV. So if you want to make the argument that spreading the word on the dangers of promiscuous anal sex is the way to go GREAT, you have a solid point, but your bigotry clouds the whole message.

It is also untrue that vaginal sex is never a culprit. Rough vaginal sex can create tears and spread HIV in jiffy. Basically, we would be better off on this war against HIV if our entire population was simply less promiscuous and more willing to use protection. Please don't state bigotry as fact. It is so off putting.

Go, Listen up, why don't these fools understand that its not only a Gay disease, babies, organ donor recipients, blood transfusions (still improperly screened at times) harvested body parts (corneas, skin, bone) improperly screened, dirty surgical instruments, intentional infectors, medical personnel, first responders are at risk and have contracted AIDS. I am at a loss why some of these posters are so interested in what people do in their bedrooms, or don't do, gay or straight. Tiresome same old unfounded biotry and rants.

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Sodomy isn't right for anyone, gay or straight. The biological construction of the anus precludes entry because it never self lubricates. Gays trying to force acceptance using straight people who do so as an example still aren't correct, because it's not biologically made for that purpose.

If people would listen to nature and the way their bodies work and quit forcing (no pun intended) the issue by using non-natural substitutes to accomodate the practice, we might actually be better off health wise.

Billie, so keep your tool in your pans or panties, and don't worry about other people's parts. What absolute nonsense. Why are you obsessed with cultural sexual mores, there is really something wrong with you. Go do something useful, feed the hungry, cure the sick, shelter the homeless, clothe the naked, do to the least of ours.

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Here in AZ there is no health coverage help for adults. Young adults frequently do not have jobs with even mimimal benefits. All medical and dental needs have to be paid out of pocket. You can't get past a receptionist without showing proof of insurance or a wad of cash. Most young people I know have to wait until their health problems become severe and life threatening, then they can be seen in an ER. I don't know where you live, but here I can show you hundreds of thousands of people who get turned down for medical care. A good percentage of them with health problems and treatable conditions that will eventually kill them far earlier than necessary- ie, untreated high pressure.

I don't think this is only a failure to treat for HIV. It is however, a good indicator of health care accessibility for young adults. The headline could probably delete the word HIV and still be accurate.