FDA data dump shows few toxins in jerky treats; complaints rise to 1,800

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Waggin' Train chicken jerky tenders, sold by Nestle Purina Pet Care, are among top brands of Chinese-made pet treats linked to illnesses and deaths in U.S. dogs.

Newly posted results of more than five years of testing chicken jerky pet treats made in China appear to confirm assertions from government officials that they don’t know what’s making America’s dogs sick, even as complaints about the products have nearly doubled.

Federal Food and Drug Administration officials unexpectedly posted summaries this week of lab results of nearly 300 jerky treat samples collected and tested in the U.S. between April 2007 and June 2012.  To see the results, click here.

The documents indicate that FDA scientists at labs nationwide tested for bacterial contamination, for mold and for chemicals used in antifreeze, resins and plastics that can harm pets. They tested for heavy metals and for the melamine and melamine analogs detected in pet food that sickened thousands of animals in 2007.

At the same time, new FDA figures indicate that the number of complaints of animal illnesses and deaths blamed on the treats has risen to more than 1,800, according to Tamara Ward, an agency spokeswoman. 

The lab results show a mere handful of adverse findings related to the popular Chinese-made treats. None of the reports rose to the level of needing regulatory action, such as a recall, the documents indicate.

“This does not represent ALL testing that has and is being conducted by FDA,” Ward said in an email. “Additional testing is currently being conducted through other avenues.”

The FDA released the data a day after NBCNews.com reported that the agency had refused to release results of February inspections of the Chinese plants that make the treats. The agency said releasing the information would violate rules protecting trade secrets and confidential commercial information and that it would interfere with enforcement proceedings. That data remains confidential.

Pet advocates critical of the FDA said that while they welcome the release of the domestic data, the results indicate that the agency is not looking hard enough for the source of the illnesses, including hundreds of reports of vomiting, diarrhea and kidney failure.

“When I scanned down through the list of testing, they all seemed to be centered around the same handful of tests,” said Susan Thixton, who writes the blog TruthaboutPetFood.com. She believes the FDA needs to broaden its view to include other potential toxins. 

"You can't find what you don't look for," she said.

FDA covered bases, experts say
But animal health experts not affiliated with the FDA said the agency appears to be using due diligence to track the source of the problem. Tina Wismer, medical director of the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center, said the review appears to be complete.

“Looking at what they’re testing for, I’m looking at the list of poisons that we know affect the kidneys and they’ve got their bases covered,” she said.

That’s a view echoed by Marion Ehrich, a professor of pharmacology and toxicology at the Virginia-Maryland College of Veterinary Medicine.

“From the website provided, it seems analyses of submitted samples have not yet led to the discovery of anything toxic that is consistently present in the samples,” she wrote in an email. “They have been looking at possible suspects (melamine, bacteria, molds, etc.) but nothing is standing out.”

The FDA is working to develop and validate new ways to detect toxic substances for which there are no current tests, said Ward, the agency spokeswoman.

The 284 samples included in the new data were collected after consumer complaints, as part of routine surveillance or as an assignment, Ward said. Of those, only six indicated adverse findings.

Those included salmonella found in three samples, including Dingo and Waggin Train chicken jerky products and in one unidentified product. Mold was found in a sample of Waggin’ Train jerky, too. Low levels of melamine were detected in one sample of Del Monte beef flavor jerky treats, the tests showed. Another Dingo treat had a questionable genetic fingerprint that was sent for further analysis.

In addition, a few samples were positive for undeclared propylene glycol, but not at levels that would have prompted regulatory actions, the documents said.

Most of the tests were like one posted on Aug. 20, 2007 for Waggin’ Train chicken jerky tenders. No melamine or related compounds including ammeline, ammelide or cyanuric acid was found, the test showed. No ethylene glycol or diethylene glycol -- toxic components of antifreeze -- were found.

The FDA has issued three warnings about jerky treats since 2007, including the most recent one last November. That’s a fairly strong action for an agency that typically keeps mum on investigations, said Kimberly May, a veterinarian and assistant director in the communications division for the American Veterinary Medical Association.

“This is as close as they’re going to come to saying there’s a problem,” May said. Officials with Nestle Purina Pet Care Co. and Del Monte Foods, which make the top brands of treats, insist that their products continue to be safe to feed animals as directed on the packages.

But some experts say it’s up to pet owners to be cautious.  

“At this point in time, until we figure out exactly what is going on, I probably wouldn’t feed these,” the ASPCA's Wismer said.

To report complaints about animal illness, visit the FDA’s Safety Reporting Portal.

Related stories on Vitals: 

A grieving pet owner says his 9-year-old dog was in perfect health until he fed her Waggin' Train chicken treats; the Pomeranian died 13 days later of kidney failure. He is now calling on the FDA to take another look at the product. WMAQ-TV's Michelle Relerford reports.

 

 

 

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Everyone just needs to stop feeding these to their pets! there is obviously something wrong here!!

  • 24 votes
#1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:07 AM EDT

This is like a broken record. Wake up people! Don't buy anything from a nation that is poisoning our pets. To start with read the labels. Buy made in America. China also puts lead in its toys. Remember that one last year? Now am I going to be suspended again for voicing my concerns over the asian invasion?

  • 36 votes
#1.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:14 AM EDT

Remember, the FDA is a component of the US government, who is now only beholden to international business interests and the profitability of same. DO NOT under any circumstances think that they have the public's best interests at heart. Remember, in the words of George Ure: "Everything is a business model". Including your trusty guvvamint, folks!

Sorry!, reality sucks!

  • 18 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:47 AM EDT

I noticed Grocery Outlet's are selling these as well! I wrote a letter to them to pull these treats off their shelves, but they are still there!! Why are we even buying treats and other food from this horrible country?? America can make it's own!! Geeez! I am TIRED of seeing garlic, mushrooms and artichoke hearts from CHINA!!!

  • 18 votes
#1.3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

Sorry folks BUT I DO NOT WANT MY COMMENT GOING TO FB FOR I DO NOT SUPPORT SUCH> SO why am I unable to respond unless I post on FB TOO???

  • 4 votes
#1.4 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

I was buying these chicken jerky treats for my chihuahua at Costco. He was getting horrible stomach aches where he would cry out in pain. Thank goodness I finally saw a story on the problems with these made in China treats. As soon as I stopped feeding them to him he's been fine with no more stomach aches!

  • 9 votes
#1.5 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

If you read the article, it says the FDA cannot find any evidence of toxins. Each year in the U.S. 76 million people are reported with food poisioning, with 325,000 hospitializations and 3200 deaths from eating locally prepared food. Our pets probably suffer more from eating our table scraps than from anything they eat from a processing plant, either foreign or domestic, that is thoroughly inspected by the FDA. There is no evidence of contamination and many of the deceased pets were old and susceptible to other ailments. Most Americans have poor diets and it is no susprise that our pets too are over fed, over weight, and suffering from complications of a seditary lifestyle.

  • 5 votes
#1.6 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:17 PM EDT

But they taste so gooooooooood, especially on a Ritz cracker with french onion dip.

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:35 PM EDT

IS IT POSSIBLE., The jerky is reacting with something in these animals systems causing a toxic agent to be created? So it might not be the content of the jerky itself but a byproduct of an interaction.

Medication?

Vitamins?

Food with Jerky

Stomach acids?

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

F*** the FDA. They don't give two sh*ts about people. As Tom-300459 said, its all about business. Go do some research on some of the policies and medications they approve and it'll all make sense

  • 9 votes
#1.9 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

An make sure it is not MADE in China. It can be distributed from the US but still be made in China. When in doubt don't buy it! And to JH-753756, you obviously don't have a pet dog. If you did, you be in tune with it's behavior and when it changes and why. Don't defend this Chinese crap! They even poison their own people and don't blink an eye.

  • 12 votes
#1.10 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

It's just as important to read the package labels for your pets as it is for you. There are things added to pet foods that you'd never believe. Here are the ingredients to one very popular dog food. It's a wonder that our pets survive at all with ingredients like this.

http://goodread.hubpages.com/hub/Review-of-Beneful-dog-food-by-Purina

Their food is like our food. Unfortunately, for good quality, it's going to cost you more but if you've just read that ingredient label, you'll understand why most pet foods are so cheap. By the way, when you see the word biproduct, it's everything that's non-digestible. Anyone out there want to take a stab at what "animal digest" might be???

  • 2 votes
#1.11 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

Silly Shrinks, you should see a tiny box below the FB line that is already checked when you go to post. Uncheck that box so that you do not have to post to your FB account. You're right, this is very annoying. I don't FB at all and have no intention of starting.

  • 6 votes
#1.12 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

Remember, the FDA is a component of the US government, who is now only beholden to international business interests and the profitability of same

Actually, as far as I know (I may be wrong), it's not the FDA's job to regulate Pet Food. Pet Food is not regulated by anyone at all. I think the FDA got involved because humans were getting sick through their pets.

The Pet food could be pure poison for all anyone cares...as long as humans aren't affected then it's business as usual. But we hate regulation, right?

  • 6 votes
#1.13 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

I stopped feeding my pets anything that has the word China on it. Especially after so many people lost cats with the one of the biggest pet food scare we have had. If it is not made in the USA, do not buy it.

  • 5 votes
#1.14 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

Emanuel-0684Actually, as far as I know (I may be wrong), it's not the FDA's job to regulate Pet Food

Actually the FDA does regulate all pet food in the country. Check out their website.

  • 1 vote
#1.15 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

Maybe - just maybe - if we started to make our own dog food and stopped importing it from China, things would be a bit different.

Now, in the scheme of things, 1800 dogs over 5 years... c'mon! More dogs die of more obscure reasons on a daily basis than of dog treats, which brings me to the following... we are the only country in the world obsessed with feeding processed food to our pets. Back in my home country, dogs get stuff from off the table and even cooked food, not this dry crap.

Finally, I believe our obsession for strange breeds and all sort of cross-breeds is catching up with us. Maybe, some cross-breeds of dogs are just more susceptible to certain chemicals, which would explain why their systems act differently. I can't say... I am not a scientist by any stretch of the imagination, but you see this in the animal kingdom very often.

  • 1 vote
#1.16 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:40 PM EDT

+This is the country who sold us lead in toys antifreeze in tooth paste etc maybe they are testing a new poison in the dog food that cannot be detected. Championong the useless FDA who is owned by big business and nothing more than a rubber stamp for the same s stupid. Make you own jerky there are recipes for dog on the web its simple takes very little time and stop buying the Chinese crap. If it sits on the shelf long enough they will get the idea.

  • 4 votes
#1.17 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:46 PM EDT

Scott and others - That "Made in the US" label is bogus too. I was feeding my dog a premium expensive dog food called Sojos and he got sick. After much sleuthing and research, I discovered the ingredients are from China, shipped over here and then mixed together. Because the final mixing is done here, they get to say "Made in the USA" (or in the case of this product, the label read, "Made in Minnesota").

  • 6 votes
#1.18 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:00 PM EDT

how are you suppose to know where the treats are from? out of 13 different bags of treats they all say made in california( not a thing about china). even the treats they are showing on here. i will just start feeding them hotdogs for treats. i threw alot of money away in treats. at least i know the dogs are safe

  • 1 vote
#1.19 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:09 PM EDT

The FDA doesn't give a piddle about the dogs. They don't give a piddle about humans, all they care about is just how much money they can get from Pharmaceuticals and big business. BEWARE, if your dog is sick from these Chinese treats do not buy them, do not give your loved pet anything made in china or elsewhere. Do not feed your child stuff from there either. We as the consumers have at least that much power.

  • 2 votes
#1.20 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

Throw out the jerky. Humans are obsessed with it but dogs are not. In fact you could save yourself some money by cutting back on the store bought treats and give your dog baby carrots and pieces of apple. They love to eat what they see you eat. It creates a strong bond too.

  • 4 votes
#1.21 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

don't buy chinese garbage = problems solved!!!!

  • 2 votes
#1.22 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:33 PM EDT

There are plenty of dog treats that are made in the USA, its just that people can't afford them.

  • 1 vote
#1.23 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

When any canine food or treat item has the words of the seller's name such as Sold by Target, Dist. by WalMart, take a WAG where the product came from? WAG being wild assed guess.

There used to be a bar code cracker but if the country of origin of the base ingredients are coming from China, you won't know about it.

Our family lost a beloved family member, Tonic, a Golden Retriever from the poisioning in 2007. I would rather feed them from my own table then feed them food I'm leery about.

For treats, I buy a big container of cheese balls from Target. When I saw Mold found in a sample, just like the mold in baby formula that killed one child and made another deathly ill, Bingo.

Use due diligence when purchasing for your furry family members. It's no bargain if they die as a result of the cheap price when being Dist by Target, Walmart etc.

  • 4 votes
#1.24 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:48 PM EDT

With the numbers of these treats used compared to the number of deaths there is nothing sinister going on here. So, you can continue to feed your pet Chinese jerky; there's no need to start blaming Chinese or world trade on these things.

  • 1 vote
#1.25 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

No one mentioned the one and greatest tool we have, The Boycott. Nestle Purina is the largest mfg of Chinese imported chicken jerky treats.

Maybe they might hear the message when a lot of people quit buying their dog food.

  • 2 votes
#1.26 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

People, the industry wants you to think feeding your dog is rocket science and it really isn't. There is plenty of information about canine nutrition available with just a few clicks. In fact, I think we are better able to choose a healthy diet for our dogs than ever before.

I read up, then made a list of good and bad foods for dogs and posted it on the frig. I watch for markdown meat at the grocery store, cook it ahead, portion, and freeze it. I keep veggies the same way, sometimes making pureed 'veggie gravy' to mix with the meat. I keep fillers like rice and potatoes to a minimum and often add a little water to make sure the dog gets plenty of fluid. It only takes a minute to 'wave it, stir in some powdered vitamin supplement, (available at most health food stores,) along with some flax oil. Wow! What a difference flax makes in their coat! Our dog is soft, shiny, trim, and full of energy.

No way am I gonna feed our dog China crap! I extend my ban to any Chinese products that go in or on our bodies, including jewelry, and toys. I can't say I never buy any Chinese products--how can you when things are not honestly labeled? But whenever I can choose, I take US made or nothin'.

  • 1 vote
#1.27 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

I can't honestly believe that anyone on here is really feeding their pets Chinese products of any type thinking they are actually nutritious. Did you ever see a Chinese man walking a "pet" dog? hell no, dogs are a vital source of protein over there. they can't believe how we treat what they classify as cattle.

  • 2 votes
#1.28 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

I had been buying 'Healthy Treats for Dogs' from Mars. As it happens, I found them at Walmart. The skin and coat type actually seemed to have the benefit claimed. I bought them for years before they disappeared off the shelves. I contacted Mars and discovered they were only retailed by Walmart.

Not willing to risk my dogs' lives, I began making my own treats. I get top quality liver at the farmers' market and bake it within an inch of its life. While it is still warm and soft enough to cut, I cut it up into treat sized pieces. Those I put back in the oven on super low heat until they are completely dry.

Artisanal treats are also an option. They are spendy but I keep them on hand in case I don't have time to bake liver.

  • 1 vote
#1.29 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:36 PM EDT

No need for a dehydrator. Just make your own. Place raw meat in your oven on the lowest temp setting for about 8 - 10 hours. Pretty simple to do. My dog gets carrots and apples for a treat and raw bones. Dogs can even eat raw chicken bones. Raw bones are much better for them.

  • 1 vote
#1.30 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

My two dogs are my babies, they are every bit as much a part of my family as my kids will be and I can say with all the warning, regardless of what the FDA finds, I'm not taking chances. I found a new treat at Petsmart that says specifically "Made in America", something I look for even in regular non-food purchases. This scare is just that, a scare. But it's one I fully intend to steer clear of just for my own piece of mind.

http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11573554

Just in case anyone wants to see if their pups like it, sounds like an advertisement but I know but my girls love it. Just watch out when you open the bag...the smell is...strongly meaty, lol.

    #1.31 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:35 PM EDT

    I'm guessing the dog dies, they look at the package, see "China" and jump to conclusions. You do know that we have plenty of deaths from tainted U.S. products, or are people filtering information?

    Anyone remember the fairly recent problems (including deaths) from poultry products from a well known U.S. company? And yet people advocate U.S. treats because ... ?

      #1.32 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:30 PM EDT

      SprDog~

      Because US made treats don't have melamine and US toys don't have lead.

        #1.34 - Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:21 AM EDT
        Reply

        The location of where production/shipping and any type of handling for all items that come into the US should always be clearly indicated. It's obvious from dog food issues to Chinese drywall and children's toys that we need to stop importing products that are dangerous to Americans.

        • 13 votes
        Reply#2 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:35 AM EDT

        Greeedy businesses and our president want to stay good with China and not hurt thier feelings! If we started banning more of their products, that will tick them off! We are messing with a communist country!! It's a dangerous thing! They don't care about the health of THIER own citizens, why would they care about us here? We made China what it is today, the big monster it is, cause of our own greed!! Products could easily be made here, but with insurance companies, overhead, super tight over regulated laws it's no wonder businesses are moving to China, but it's gone way tooo far! I believe in SOME regulation, to keep things safe, and punish those who do not follow laws, but it's going too far,

        • 6 votes
        #2.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:55 AM EDT

        STOP buying @!$%# made in CHINA

        STOP buying @!$%# made in CHINA

        Ive bin saying this for 20 yrs.

        BUY MADE IN USA

        • 10 votes
        #2.2 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

        Richard there is a website global incidents dot com. The disease outbreak site is a real eyeful.

        After reading a lot of responses here and having noted that H1N1 and other Avian flu are producing huge numbers of slaughtered chickens, I no longer wonder what they're doing with the slaughtered chickens.

        Make jerky out of them for the American consumers who love dogs. It really makes you wonder.

        • 6 votes
        #2.3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

        fda and usda do regulate pet foods, sign on to fda.gov alerts or usda.gov alerts, you can check pet foods, veterinarian foods, currently they have WARNINGS about pet foods with HIGH VITAMIN D LEVELS>

        The FDA KNOWS what drugs harms humans and pets and sea life, etc. Acyclovir forms crystals in the kidneys and induces kidney failure within 24-48 hours, and painful deaths. MIRALAX or PEG 3350 clearly states on the label DO NOT USE IF YOU HAVE KIDNEY DISEASE. I've been Rx'd this by the VA and they knew my kidney function was low of 37 in 2009. I rarely used it, but it made me feel terrible. Ibuprofen, aspirin, grapes, onions, are not to be given to dogs or pets. Poly ethelene Glycol this country is sicko.

        Read The Treatment by Martha Stephens, Cincinatti Radiation Experiments in the city hospital BASEment ,

        There was NO treatment for induced acute radiation sickness in those sick, elderly, black or other marginalized in society. They already know the radiation kill dose, too. It does accumulate with radiation doses, CT scans and it's "contrast" is radioactive. frequent radiation scans/xrays to the head, thyroid and meningiomas, these benign tumors are reactive to estrogen and progestin. This is VERY Well KNOWN, huh FDA who moniters me at home!!! Reat The Plutonium Files by Eileen Welsome. MIND Wars by Jonathan Moreno , PhD 2006 and 2012 editions. Read, Full Body Burden, Growing Up in the Nuclear Shadows of Rocky Flats, by Kristen Iversen. Read Life Exposed by > or search Man Made Diseases. BE SAFE. They deny I have kidney disease at eGFR 45 and 52 and elev creatinine. with skin sores for over a year, Gadolinium metal from MRI injections did not help either. that is not rare. see NYAS.org for NSF 2010 conference, see slides by Jack Gauldie, if it's in them, we put it there. They are terrorists and serial killers the medical community rotten apples on the DOD and other payrolls. Rotten inside and out with greed and sadism.

          #2.4 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:07 PM EDT

          sunnytoo, true FDA & USDA know what is poison & kills. Yet they are so "Bought Off" they are worthless.

          When I see or hear Approved by FDA of USDA, I SHUDDER & RUN in the opposite direction.

          Our government is the Best that Can Be Bought!

            #2.5 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:36 PM EDT
            Reply

            Makes you wonder what 1,800+ suffering dog owners know that the FDA doesn't?

            • 11 votes
            Reply#3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:37 AM EDT

            Please reference my comment a few items above. Unfortunately, this is the world we live in.

              #3.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

              We have been feeding these to our dogs for years and they absolutely LOVE them and when you say "chickens" here they are! No problems whatsoever.

                #3.2 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

                SHIRLSHINE: You must be the "1%"!

                  #3.3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:28 PM EDT
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                  I'll never buy them. Figures, China. Didn't they poision their own babies with a baby formula that killed a bunch of them. You think they don't give a @!$%# about the children how are they going to care about animals

                  • 13 votes
                  Reply#4 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:38 AM EDT

                  Exactly. There were also deaths some time ago in Panama and other countries from cough syrup or cold medicine containing diethylene glycol falsely labeled as glycerin from China. There is no quality control in China. The Chinese bootleg CDs, DVDs, designer wearing apparel and accessories and feel there's nothing wrong with that. Same with adultering food, medicines, chemicals etc with cheaper substitutes that are actually poisonous and never tested for toxicity.

                  • 2 votes
                  #4.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:24 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Stop buying SH from China. We should have stopped buying their garbage years ago.

                  • 12 votes
                  Reply#5 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:47 AM EDT

                  The problem isn't buying crap from China but the lack of manufacturing plants and jobs here in the US. Think about this; what are you typing on to post your comment here on the vine? What do you watch at night? Heck, even what do you read in electronic form? Yea, you got it. All made in China.

                  The economy is like your 401K (or, in these times, a 201K), diversify. Our economy is so heavy into intellectual businesses that we don't have any diversity. There needs to be a balance.

                  • 7 votes
                  #5.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:57 AM EDT
                  Reply

                  China. They import ivory and export toxins that end up in everything from sheetrock to dog treats. Looks like our government needs to keep a closer eye on what ends up on our shores.

                  • 10 votes
                  Reply#6 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:57 AM EDT

                  if this was food for humans it would already have been pulled from the shelves. make your own at home using your broil setting on your oven or using a dehydrator. it's easy, you know exactly what's in it and it's actually alot cheaper.

                  in an oven set to broil at 180 degrees. cut chicken into 1/4 or smaller slices and lay flat on a cookie sheet. broil for 4-5 hours then flip and broil for 4-5 hours more till no moisture is left in them. you can tell if they need more time by squeezing them, if there is any give in them without cracking they need more time.

                  for dehydrators time varies. usually around 9 hours total, flipping them halfway through.

                  after they cool store them in the fridge or, if they are for a later date, the freezer. they stay good for up to a month in the freezer.

                  for those interested, this is the dehydrator i use.

                  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FFVIWY/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00

                  the heating unit is on the top so juices don't cause the motor to stop working. you can stack up to 20 trays(have to buy them seperate) on it and with 6 trays i can do around 6 pounds at a time.

                  • 8 votes
                  Reply#7 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:57 AM EDT

                  ps, if you do ten batches you've already saved enough money to cover the dehydrator as for the 14.98 price you can do almost double the amount by just buying 15 bucks worth of chicken breasts and doing them your self.

                  • 8 votes
                  #7.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:09 AM EDT

                  Thanks Hater...my dogs got sick a few years ago with these products. I can't believe they are still on shelves EVERYWHERE. They cost about 15-20 bucks a bag around here. So this dehydrator will save me money in the long run big time as my new made-in-the-US jerkeys are pricey (but safe and worth it).

                  • 4 votes
                  #7.2 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:15 PM EDT

                  yeah, the 14.98 price is for the waggin train at sam's. i buy one of sam's big packs of chicken breasts instead, usually around 10-12 bucks and can fill a gallon size bag vs the slightly larger than a quart bag of waggin train. my dogs love these every bit as much as the waggin train ones. i got lucky and saw the original article in 2007 and stopped giving those to my dog. i hope yours don't have any residual health issues.

                  the dehydrator also comes in handy for making my own beef jerky and dried fruit snacks.

                  • 3 votes
                  #7.3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

                  Excellent advice Hatr. When you make them yourself you know exactly what is in them, and it is easy to do and a lot cheaper in the long run.

                  It frightens me how much of what we buy comes from China. If they really wanted to take over our country - one good dose of poison in something would wipe out a great many of us.

                  • 1 vote
                  #7.4 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

                  A. The USA is beholden to China in that it holds a big pile of our debt (that's our fault).

                  B. Read labels, and don't buy Chinese made products, they have a bad news track record of lousy, cheap construction, and dangerous mfg. processes (like poison in everything).

                  C. There is NO NEED, let me repeat that, NO NEED, to purchase food that is grown anywhere else EXCEPT in the USA. This means that we might have to adjust ourselves a bit (and do we want to) and begin to eat LOCAL and SEASONAL (which means, NO, you cannot have strawberries in the middle of January). The Chinese do not grow food within the tight agricultural confines that the USA does. A bit of a pain for farmers? Sure, but so what? We do not, NOT, need to pump a million pounds of poison into the environment and thus every living thing on Earth including ourselves while wrecking our water supply while we are at it. Remember, everything is connected.

                  I say abandon the Chinese habit ASAP. Every chance I get I buy USA bc I am firmly committed to supporting my American brothers and sisters at work. And food, USA organics and if I can't get organic, then let it be USA. If some of the foods are out of season, too bad for me. I'll have to figure it out. I read labels. And there is no way I am feeding my dogs poison Chinese s***. I am sick to death of China.

                  • 3 votes
                  #7.5 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:07 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  I have to admit I didn't look at location or origin of the treats I was getting for my dog until this came up. Once I started looking, I was absolutely shocked at how few were US made. I'll pay the extra few bucks now to make sure that the products I get are US made (and yes, I do try very hard to make sure of the same for the human family as well).

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#8 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:58 AM EDT

                  I foudn one brand at BJs that is US made -- Milo's Kitchen. Only thing our BT gets now.

                  • 1 vote
                  #8.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

                  You better check again Milo's Kitchen is also made in China, at least the ones in our grocery stores.

                  • 3 votes
                  #8.2 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

                  milo's kitchen home style dog treats was one that is also suspected of making some of these dogs sick.

                  http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/13/10657635-3-big-brands-may-be-tied-to-chicken-jerky-illness-in-dogs-fda-records-show?lite

                  • 2 votes
                  #8.3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:37 PM EDT

                  Check the bag again. It may say Packaged in USA or tested in the USA but most Milo's Kitchen products are made in China.

                  • 2 votes
                  #8.4 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

                  Try Three Dog Bakery. Their treats can be found in stores all over. And, if you live in or near a large city, there's a good chance you can go to one of their actual bakery locations. Right now, I am feeding my dog their Assort"Mutt" cookies. They're made here in the US, and almost all of the ingredients are items I have in my kitchen right now.

                    #8.5 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:03 PM EDT

                    Having said I give my dogs Cheese Balls (the ones for human consumption) I also will give them a cracker with peanut butter on it.

                    Not only am I tired of not being secure in feeding my canines, I'm sick of being a consumer slave to Chinese mfg'ed everything because so many of our jobs were sold overseas.

                    FDA can't release information about the visit they took there? It would violate confidential mfg'ers information. BS. The conditions in the factory would probably run a maggot off a gut truck.

                    • 1 vote
                    #8.6 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:03 PM EDT

                    Even that doesn't make a product safe. Ingredients can be sourced from China & that info is not listed on label.

                    • 1 vote
                    #8.7 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

                    I read this article months ago,
                    and realized that my dogs were vomiting alot also.
                    I decided then and there to take them off Milo's
                    Chicken treats and the vomiting stopped almost
                    immediately. I couldn't believe I was poisoning my kids.
                    I started making my own pure treats for them. My youngest girl,
                    Olive (4 legged girl), suggested that I offfer these pure beef or
                    chicken treats to other pet lovers. Anyhow, if you don't want to make
                    your own treats, you can get 100% chicken and beef treats on ebay under
                    Olive's Favorite treats or Romeo's Favorite Treats. I make them with one
                    ingredient; either chicken or beef. Each 10 oz beef pack is around 2.25 pounds
                    if USDA Rump Roast before it's dehydrated..
                    Litlfeller@hotmail.com

                    (P.S.) I see a lot of you are going to Ebay to look at my
                    homemade treats; Olive's Favorite treats and Romeo's Favorite Treats.
                    You don't have to bid on these. Look at both offers, and one of them
                    says "Buy it Now".. Choose that one.

                      #8.8 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:04 PM EDT
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                      My suggestion since my dog almost went into kidney failure is, "if you can not eat, then do not feed it to your dog" the FDA is not going to protect you or our babies or animals.

                      • 10 votes
                      Reply#9 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:01 AM EDT

                      my dog eats dead stuff and poop.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#10 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:08 AM EDT

                      it does not have the chemicals in it that china puts into the treats.....

                      • 4 votes
                      #10.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:20 AM EDT

                      Obviously. Cause she is very healthy.

                      • 1 vote
                      #10.2 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:21 PM EDT

                      My dog eats "nuggets" too. He would eat cats if I let him.

                      • 3 votes
                      #10.3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:35 PM EDT
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                      I have been feeding my dog those treats but will stop.

                      I don't think people realize that buying anything from China or other slave labor countries because it is cheaper is a loser for America. We would be far better off paying more for stuff made here that would keep the money here and have it spread through our country instead of sending our bucks offshore with our jobs.

                      • 7 votes
                      Reply#11 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:13 AM EDT

                      These made our dog vomit and he was so lethargic we took him to a vet on Sunday. I need to find out how to report it. It is aggravating that these are still on the shelves with all the dogs sickened or killed by them!

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#12 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:16 AM EDT

                      Go back to the store where you bought them & Thank Them For Poisoning your dog. Tell them you will NEVER spend another dime in their store & bad mouth them to anyone who will listen. These stores, Walmart, Petsmart, Petco, Sam's, Costco, Kroger, Publix, etc KNEW there was a problem & refused to pull off the market.

                      • 1 vote
                      #12.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:45 PM EDT
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                      I wonder if they have checked the "freshness packet" inside each bag. Whatever it is they use in those things possibly could be poisonous, since it says "DO NOT EAT!".

                      I have fed this particular brand to my dogs for at least 8 years now, and they are happy and healthy!!

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#13 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:24 AM EDT

                      Did FDA test for xylitol contamination?

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#14 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:25 AM EDT

                      The FDA gives the report that the company that pays them the most wants them to give. The FDA does not care about people or their pets.

                      • 2 votes
                      #14.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:13 PM EDT

                      When you look at the list of what the FDA looks for notice there really aren't any toxic substances on that list. The moisture content is not what's killing our pets.

                      • 1 vote
                      #14.2 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:41 PM EDT
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                      My suspicion is that whatever factories are producing the treats - or perhaps the factories' suppliers - are using some substance that is a close enough analog for what is SUPPOSED to be in them, that the FDA can't see it with the tests they have.

                      That's how the melamine slipped by at first, since it mimics protein.

                      Sooner or later they'll figure out what is in the treats. I wouldn't be feeding my dog or cat any of this stuff in the meantime (or ever), though.

                      • 8 votes
                      Reply#15 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

                      My guess would be they are only putting one piece that will kill in every so many bags, that way they can do the most harm with out it being easily identified as their product.

                      • 1 vote
                      #15.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:14 PM EDT
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                      First it was the Chinese drywall that shorted out electrical wiring and corroded plumbing fixtures and appliances and now they're killing our pets.Let's not forget they also poisoned some of our children with lead and cadmium in children's toys.This is what happens when the manufacturers are allowed to go without oversight,and profit becomes the only motive to regulate safety.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#16 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:56 AM EDT

                      Go look up Jatropha seeds. Look at what they do with the remains after the biofuel is removed. Look at the illness the toxins glycerol produced causes if not properly processed . Look at who uses this product in China. Look at my dogs lab tests FDA!!! Test MY samples FDA!!! I know for a fact that the FDA us looking at the jatropha issue, then why didn't they want my samples?
                      My dog died from poisoning from a tainted jatropha glycerin/glycerol concentration on that final piece of Waggin Train I have little doubt. His momma got sick but recovered. My 2 dogs that didn't get a piece from that new bag??? NOT sick at all!!! RIP Ballistic BJ. not even 3 years old, very healthy, very active. FDA is hiding something as dogs continue to die.

                      • 8 votes
                      Reply#17 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

                      Awhile back I saw the made in China label on it at the store and thought twice about buying it for the dog. I'm glad I listened to my gut instincts. I am thankfull that those labels of origin are mandated. it's one thing our government does right. I don't trust food items from China for both people and pets. The only time something is done about substandard stuff from China is when the Government or Government officials of China get embaressed. Then they react and put those to Death or give out long prison terms for those they believe responsible for the embarresment. Anything else they really don't care about.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#18 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

                      Another reason to stop getting crap from China. It sickens me to see the "Made in China" label on so many items in stores. As far as anything for my dogs, if it's not "Made in USA" then I don't buy it.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#19 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

                      Since they like to eat dogs in China, it's only natural that would try to kill them with the food they make for them. Americans should have been aware of that.

                        Reply#20 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

                        Bad logic. If you poison things you eat, you end up ingesting the poison yourself.

                        • 3 votes
                        #20.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

                        Since they don't keep dogs as pets in China (and therefore, don't have to feed them everyday), then they don't have any reason to poison the dogs that they eat. It's only the dogs that are kept as pets here in the U.S and other places that they don't care about poisoning.

                          #20.2 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:14 PM EDT

                          Well, most commercial pet food made in the US use rendered products which are made from 4-D animals.

                          Commercial pet food is crap!

                            #20.3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:48 PM EDT
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                            Don't buy them or anything else from the people who sell them. They will stop quickly if you do!

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#21 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:03 PM EDT

                            Doubtful at best...There's too many of the "ignernt" that don't pay attention to what goes on in the news/around them to know about this or bother to take action. (Pessimistic, but prove me wrong...)

                            • 2 votes
                            #21.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:16 PM EDT
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                            How long are we going to let China poision us. Nothing should be allowed from China. They care nothing for thier own people what would cause you to think they will care about us. We must insist that China adopt standards of inspection at least equal to ours if not ban all imports untill they do.

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#22 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:03 PM EDT

                            I admit we need to stop buying this stuff from China but I took some time went to a local pet chain store and started investing the labels of treats and rawhides, etc. There was only 1 out of maybe 50 there that were made in the US, not only it is China its Cambodia and other places and of course the ones from the US were much more expensive. I think we need to make our own treats for our pets and stop buying this stuff. If you notice they make the packaging and the labels very appealing to our human eyes but beware read the labels please.

                            • 4 votes
                            Reply#23 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:06 PM EDT

                            I have 12 big dogs, 11 are half Saint Bernard, one is pure Saint, and a week and a half ago, we stopped buying commercial dog food, because about 2 weeks before that, we noticed a difference in our dog's food, it was lighter, and shaped a bit differently...then some of the doggies started vomiting, now and again, and the dog food was coming back up whole. Undigested...so after about a week of consistent vomiting, we decided to stop buying it. I make food for them now, with rice, older meat from the freezer (mostly moose or caribou) we stay away from commercial meat as much as possible, as well... oats, fresh chicken eggs from our chickens, greens from our garden...and there is no more puking in my house, my dogs eagerly await their dinners I make each in their bowls, they are getting much shinier, and my itchy scratchy puppy is losing his redness in his life long rash...I think it was all the food and dog biscuits we were buying... so we make biscuits and dry meat treats as well now... It is alo tmore work, but we buy organic wheat flour and have our own chickens, so we know what we are all eating now....our human and canine family....homemade cat and ferret food coming soon.......

                            • 4 votes
                            #23.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:51 PM EDT
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                            ...China is a coldhearted country, poison dog treats, skinning dogs alive for their fur, grinding up babies and putting them into capsules,,,it is hard to find things NOT MADE in China.

                            I have stopped buying ANYTHING from this horrible country. I search for Made in America or go without.

                            We need to wake up and realize we have the BEST country in the world. Yes, we have huge problems here but Americans still have the biggest hearts on the planet. We help out ppl in other countries, when we need to focus on US for a change...

                            Our pets are being poisoned, our pets are our family, these chinese don't give a care about anything but $$$...

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#24 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:06 PM EDT

                            What news were you reading and what were you smoking while reading it?? I want some.

                              #24.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:18 PM EDT
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                              RAW FOOD DIET IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO!!!! My dogs dont eat anything I wouldnt eat and most of the time eat BETTER than i do!!!!! RAW RAW RAW Meaty meat, more meaty meat then the next day more meat!!!! My dogs are the healthiest they have EVER been!!!!!

                                Reply#25 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:08 PM EDT

                                Geez... if I gave my dog that much meat, she'd have a coronary... I kinda expect yours to. Dogs are omnivores... mine just gets corn-based kibble.

                                  #25.1 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:22 PM EDT

                                  Dogs are carnivore-biased with omnivore very much secondary. Both their teeth and digestive system are optimized for meat. Corn is terrible for dogs. Dogs lack the enzyme amylase making it more difficult to digest carbohydrates like those in corn. In some larger dogs, carbs like corn can cause bloat. Most animal nutritionists recommend a grain-free diet. Corn and wheat are also allergenic to a lot of dogs. I have had to do this research because my dog has an auto-immune disease triggered by food and environmental allergens.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #25.2 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:40 PM EDT

                                  The chicken jerkey was on the clearance aisle at my local dollar store today. It should be pulled, not put on clearance. I'm going to write the company. It will only change if enough people complain.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #25.3 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:48 PM EDT

                                  You got it Tmonet! Now the american Vet Assoc is attacking the raw food manufacturers here. Check out, www.truthabouthpetfood.com. Susan Thixton's lastest newsletter is urging people to write them to halt their vote to outlaw raw food for pets.

                                  Vet associations & Vets are paid off just like doctors are paid off by Big Pharma.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #25.4 - Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:53 PM EDT
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