My response to what you have said....which I totally agree with is...

Vote for Obama....that is a start....

B Garcia

Do you have asthma?

I have asthma. After the second surprise attack that could have killed me, I had to investigate and try to keep up with what is going on so I wouldn't have another major episode.

Because I did the research, and adjusted, I have not had an asthma episode in over 2 years and counting and the most I have to do is keep ahead of my allergies and not allow a sniffle become a respiratory ailment.

I will tell you that the reason asthma is on the climb is because of the EPA and a number of it's mandates which are supposed to make things better.

We only have a fraction of the industry we did in the 70's when our air was getting so dirty and those we do have have regulations a plenty to insure identified poisons are not being put into the air in quantities that will harm us. Yet, today yet we had higher rates of asthma than we did in 70's. You should be demand answers instead of saying we aren't doing anything because we have done so much that our cost of living increased and we lost jobs to countries who don't regulate for polution.

The only real increase in has been in transportation. Here too we have regulated the crap out of the auto industry to reduce green house gasses.

From 1973, the EPA mandated that all gasoline be treated with the chemical MTBE. There were no studies done on the possible negative consequences of adding this to gasoline. The only concern was reducing the hydrocarbons, because they believed, get this, at the time the the hydrocarbons were causing global cooling! You cannot make this stuff up, it is truly what they believed.

In 1995, with the increase in automobiles, the EPA decided to increase the MTBE because the increased levels of pollutants they were targeting were increasing. They actually studied what MTBE was doing this time. In the study they admitted that MTBE when burnt produced Several variants of Formeldahyde. Formeldahyde's are a severe respiratory irritant. The more you experienced the more you injure your repiratory system. Despite the Report the EPA mandated that the MTBE quantity be doubled because carbons were a bigger problem in their opinion.

I want to make one thing Clear. In the last two years, MTBE, though still mandated by the EPA has been pretty much eliminated from the U.S. Gasoline supplies. Those "evil" corporations eliminated it because they got sued in court for using MTBE. They are using mainly Methanol. Look up MTBE and find out all the stuff it was doing to us and is continuing to do to us. It took informed people to put this practice to a stop, not the EPA in whom you trust!

The EPA also mandated Catalytic converters. This was about eliminating unconsumed gasoline (VOC's) and also holding down hydrocarbons. Once again, there was no testing as too what the results would do to people directly. My dad new a researcher at the Refinery he worked at. What he told my dad was jaw dropping. The Catalytic converters were breaking compounds into compounds that could not be measured and which could not be measured and no one knew what it would do to humans. Today, we still don't know, but we have increasing asthma to say we should be looking at it.

DB Akron, that's just your opinion and speculation. Don't suppose you have links to peer-reviewed research to back up your claims. "My dad knew somebody" doesn't quite cut it.

We don't need more vaccines, we need humane treatment and healthy living conditions for farm animals raised for food. This will this enrich their "short lives", do away with all the many hormones and toxic inoculations required now to fight off diseases resulting from squalid living conditions and their "amp'ed up" rate of growth and size. In the end, it'll give those that eat meat--real meat. Not hormone-laded, toxic genetically engineered crap!

Have you ever watched, "Farm to Fridge"? If you haven't, I suggest you try to view as much of that video as you can stomach. The video will show the grotesque and inhuman treatment and squalid living conditions farm animals are abused by and forced to live in; crammed into containers with no room to even turn around in, standing in their own excrement, blood and other waste.

Pigs, cows, chickens, turkeys all shot up full of hormones and other toxins to battle-off diseases caused by the unhealthy living conditions. The farm animals who get sick will vomit, get diarrhea and wallow literally in their own $hit and other bodily waste. Pigs eat anything--they eat "Pig". Its the same with chickens, cows--all farm animals raised for our consumption. This contributes to mad cow disease, avian flu, and swine flu.

So then what we get is "Big Pharma" to the rescue (and to make those "Big Bucks.") More vaccines. Did you know that in the late 1950's, only 5 vaccines were required for kids. Today it's 14 (15 if you make your daughters get the HPV.)

Now H5N1? That's going to take a lot of "special eggs." Can you say, "Genetically Engineered"?

Read, "Vaccine A" by Gary Matsumoto.

Swine Flu? Avian Flu? Mad Cow Disease? Watch Farm to Fridge video. Check out how cruel and inhuman "farm animals raised for consumption" are treated. See how they're raised in the squalid conditions they are forced to live in. (I'm using the word, "live" quite loosely." They have no life.

Then we have people like, Steve King (R-IA); the congressman who bragged about his bill to "do away with animal rights."

In the words of Temple Grandin: "Farm animals are raised for our consumption; we owe them our respect."

We don't need more vaccines, we need humane treatment and healthy living conditions for farm animals. Healthy farm animals--not one's chock-ful-a hormones and toxic genetically engineered crap.

Wonder why your bones ache in the morning? Cancer? Rheumatoid Arthritis? Asthma? Over weight? Lack of energy and a host of other ailments you're taking pills for? Watch "Food Matters"; "Forks over Knifes"; Farm to Fridge."

Stop eating Fast Food. Limit you meat intake. Research and read.

Really Paul? You take one statistic completely out of context to justify your oddball world view? Because there are causes other than tobacco that increase the chance of getting asthma then tobacco isn't a contributor to asthma? So. . . by your own logic if a person can die by drowning then statistics about death rates in car accidents are "BS research." Is this your excuse for reasoning? Sad. Sad and pathetic.

fallout-1986007

You are the sad type of person who will twist everything to justify your own ignorance.

Almost every article I have read in the last year about cancer, heart disease, asthma and other diseases always have some kind of link to tobacco in the article.

The constant mention of tobacco or smoking in articles is social conditioning at it's finest.

If you repeat the same thing all of the time people will learn to believe that it is true even if it is of questionable science.

You seem to be an avid defender of smoking, and probably a smoker yourself. Why don't you try a little experiment? Seal your children in an air-tight room, and smoke a couple of packs a day in there with them. Do that for about twenty years, and then tell us all how it worked out. Oh, and we'd like to here the kids' side of it, too. M-kay?

Paul, I hear this kind of thing all the time from smokers who want to justify their habit. I'm not saying all smokers do that by any means or that they are bad people, but your reaction is typical of someone who doesn't want to face the fact that smoking kills and sickens those who smoke and those unfortunate enough to be around them, or that of someone who sees conspiracies all around. There are so many smokers in every city in this country that your idea of smoking not being a cause is just absurd. Learn some facts and perhaps experience a few asthma attacks from just walking by ONE smoker outside, much less standing next to one with it on her clothes or having a smoker come up and start talking to you, and we will see what you have to say then about smoking and asthma...and that doesn't even mention all the other diseases it causes.

Or maybe you need to be brought up in a smoker's household and end up with asthma, or maybe you could work in Respiratory Therapy in a hospital and see the disastrous results of smoking on whole families. It takes ONE smoker to make the whole yoga group start coughing and sneezing, and it takes ONE smoker in a restaurant to increase everyone's odds of a heart attack for 30 minutes after they leave.

Maybe you like watching people suffocate or gasping for air, or maybe you like intubating kids who can't breathe because ONE family member won't stop smoking and they reacted so badly they have to have a tube down their throat to get oxygen. Then add all the heart attacks, strokes, various cancers, COPD, and other illnesses to the mix and you say it doesn't make people sick????

Seems to me you are the one posting bs. So just to be clear, I am not bashing smokers or saying all are rude, but I am saying that tobacco does maim and kill, and you are either a troll or a smoker who doesn't want to face facts. You saying it doesn't do those things doesn't it make your statements any more true no matter how many times you say it. The conspiracy isn't with those saying it's bad, but with companies saying it isn't very addictive and that they are doing the best they can to make it safe.

Paul - You're funny. Strange how you twist things around to justify your filthy habit.

I grew up around second-hand smoke and always had allergies - this was back when smoking was cool and acceptable in the 50s. I didn't have my first asthma attack until I was almost 20. My son has asthma, as well. Who's to say that secondhand smoke didn't cause our asthma and that it mutates genes? It mutates them enough to cause cancer. Personally, I cannot stand to be around smoke, as it does trigger my asthma, and will not go anywhere where it is allowed. It's a selfish habit, filthy and smelly. There is no one in my immediate family who now smoke and the ones that did, died of heart disease and lung cancer. My father and several uncles all died of lung cancer.

I understand that some smokers do not suffer some of the maladies that other smokers do. Some smokers get mouth, tongue and throat cancers, not to mention lung, and some do not. Many have heart disease caused by smoking and other bad habits. My grandfather, who chewed tobacco and smoked cigars died of heart disease, but he was in his 90s.

The problem is that we don't know who will die from smoking and who will hang on and suffer degenerative heart disease because of it.

Bottom line is, I know that if I die, it will not be from smoking. Are you willing to continue that risk? If so, then don't deny being the addict that you are. Either get help to save yourself and others that are living with you or succumb to the risks that smoking entails. Smoking is your choice, but it doesn't have to be mine and it certainly shouldn't have to be the choice of the people you care about.

Kris1234-3592742

I am not a smoker! You want to talk about a filthy habit just look at your self you condemn people you don't even know.

I just want people to realize that many factor cause disease including being genetically inferior.

Genetically inferior? Gee, where have we heard that term before? Somewhere in Europe? Maybe sixty or so years ago? BTW, have you started the experiment I suggested earlier? It's in the interest of proving your point, isn't it? So what's holding you back? Whether you smoke or not is irrelevant now, since your twisted support of it defies explanation.

Every breath that a person takes, contains the VERY SAME toxic chemicals that are found in cigarette smoke - This material is pumped - in some instances, BY THE TONS - into the air, every day.

You will notice that neither of these reports lists cigarette smoke as ANY PORTION of the total pollution in the air!!

The world runs on "Combustable energy" - So this isn't about to change in the forseeable future

for ram-762581 - and all the rest!- Asthma is NOT caused by smoking

The rise in respiratory problems could NOT be linked to household risk factors such as passive smoking

among nonsmokers environmental tobacco smoke [ETS] exposure was not significantly associated with asthma

children of mothers who smoked at least 15 cigarettes a day tended to have lower odds for suffering from allergic rhino-conjunctivitis, allergic asthma, atopic eczema and food allergy, compared to children of mothers who had never smoked (ORs 0.6-0.7). Children of fathers who had smoked at least 15 cigarettes a day had a similar tendency (ORs 0.7-0.9). CONCLUSIONS: This study demonstrates an association between current exposure to tobacco smoke and a -LOW RISK- for atopic disorders in smokers themselves and a similar tendency in their children.

Their conclusion: High levels of parental smoking in the home are associated with a REDUCTION in health care contacts for asthma.

Im the first ever long-term study of patients with "at risk" asthma. Second hand smoke was not evrn mentioned as a trigger for their asthema!

You don't see these studies mentioned in the media - because they are not "politically correct" - whereas blaming smoking for EVERYTHING is!

Ever seen the "440,000 a year, die from smoking" (this figture equals approx. 18% of the yearly death rate - approx. 2.5 million) - Have you ever stopped to think that - approx. 21 percent of the population (from around 2000 til now) smoke??? - Let's see - 21 percent of the population smokes and 18% to 19% of the total death rate is from smoking - sounds almost proportional to me - I say almost, but in reality, it means that the smoking population actually slightly outlives their non smoking counterparts.

For all who would say "well OK but smokers die miserable deaths" or "smokers have more chronic problems befor they die" - this Surgeon Generals report, says differently - - looking at the figures, you will see that those who smoke a half pack or less a day - actually have LESS chronic problems than non smokers do - and those who smoke a pack a day have about the same (in some cases only SLIGHTLY MORE) chronic problems than non smokers do. It is only when you get above a pack a day, that the problems start - No wonder it's not published with all the rest of the Surgeon Generals' reports!!!

We have been "hoodwinked" on the whole "Smoking/SHS" issue

There were links posted for EVERY BIT of the info above - but this forum strips the links out

Look up these these up: Dimethylpolysiloxane and Tertiary Butylhydroquinone. The first one, an anti-foaming agent (and phthalates-look this up also) is in mystery meats at "Fat Fast, Fast Food" establishments. It's also used in Breast Implants and Silly Putty. Causes ADHD and Asthma. The second one (DBHQ) is a butane and it's used in "Fat Fast, Fast Foods" to extend storage life. It causes Cancer and Auto Immune Disorders.

And these two are just a small part of it. All the crap in fast food, the mystery meats (beef, chicken, pork, fish) all is so shot up full of hormones and packed full of toxic additives, not to mention the crap in soft drinks, shakes and fries, yes, it's ALL poison.

When I researched my asthma, the one stunner I found was that the use of certain inhalers that use certain petroleum products, might open you up temporarily, but in the end will make your asthma worse. Do some more research.

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Carrol,

I had the same problem since I uused the primatene ihaler as well.

Try the pimatene tablets. They work in about 20 or 30 minutes.....

I don't know how bad your asthma is but I have to take one pill right away when I feel an asthma attack coming on since the pills are not as fast-acting as the inhaler.

As far as price, the pimatene tablets are cheaper than the old primatene inhaler.

Shadow

The Pro-Mist just doesn't have the same "Umpff!" that the Abuterol inhaler had. It feels like nothing to use.

carrol,

abuterol inhalers are only temporary relief, rescue only really.

The second time I had a severe asthma attack, the hospital (not the same hospital as the first attack) used straight abuterol instead of a mix like the first time. Big difference, I was back on the street in 24 hours on the first attack, the second I was in the hospital for 5 days.

One time my doctor gave me a certain replacement for advair. Worst thing I ever took, got a heart flutter out of it after one dose. Later it was taken off the market because people using it too much was causing some to experience heart failure.

My mom has asthma pretty bad. Her doctor tries to have her use advair only during her peak season. At 85 she is still hanging in there pretty good.

DB - When they gave you straight albuterol, it was probably done through a nebulizer treatment, right? We have a machine, along with albuterol and saline to inhale when nothing else works. As an asthmatic, it's important that you have a rescue (albuterol) inhaler, plus a preventive inhaler, like Flovent, etc. When the nebulizer treatments don't work, then they usually give you shots of epenephrine, along with steroids taken orally.

It is certainly not fun having asthma, worrying about whether you'll be able to breathe well enough to sleep at night. Nighttime is when asthma gets worse. I sleep with two pillows and sometimes, if I wheeze, I have to sleep on my stomach with my arms slightly lifting my chest so my lungs aren't compressed.

My son had his first asthma attack at 3 and at 30, is still able to control it with his medication. I can't tell you how many times I had to rush him to the ER when he was little 'cause he had problems breathing.

All it takes is a sinus infection or respiratory virus to get asthma out of control. It's a scary, debilitating disease and it saddens me to think of more children and adults having it.

All you people who smoke have no clue as to how it affects people with asthma. If a child lives in an environment in the inner city, no air conditioning, no proper medication and sometimes without a parent who understands how dangerous asthma can be, they have little chance of surviving or living a quality life.

BTW - I'm currently unemployed, so no health insurance. This means that when I can afford the preventive inhaler (the rescue inhalers aren't quite as expensive - for example, Flovent costs over $100 per inhaler, per month) - so I am trying to cut my "puffs" down to once, twice daily, instead of two times, twice daily. We can all thank the big drug companies for these skyrocketing costs. They know how vital it is to have the right medication to keep asthma in control, which is why the price is so high. Ridiculous!

My daughter's Advair is $500 for a three month supply. I know what you mean, if we didn't find a way to pay for it, I don't know what we'd do. I'm just thankful for coupons and that her asthma doctor tries to get us samples when he can. There's NO excuse for how much asthma medicine costs, especially, did I mention, I pay over $500 a month for health insurance with prescription drug coverage??? This healthcare system is criminal.

I took Advair, too, but Flovent was a little cheaper, not much, but without health insurance it's the only alternative I have that works as well as Advair did. My doctor also helped out with samples whenever he had any. With you paying that much in premiums, I would think you'd get a much better deal.

One of my doctors had asthma and refused to buy Advair due to the cost!

Of course, all these people having asthma means even bigger bucks for the drug companies. They are making hand-over-fistfuls of money, even in this economy.

Those Chem trails are carbon and hydrogen exhaust mainly. They aren't really hurting you down here. I don't know if they treat jet fuel like the additives the EPA mandates for autos. If so, then that stream you see isn't so harmless.

Okay, I'm intrigued. What's the deal with your ferocious support of tobacco? I'm guessing you're a paid shill for the tobacco companies, and the poor spelling and grammar are just a way of making you appear to be a "real person."

If that's the case, you need to dial it back a notch or two. Real, non-crazy persons don't obsess like this in favor of something they professedly don't do.

Just a tip.

I think what he is ferocious about - is the costant barage of lies about smoking "causing every imaginable evil" in the world - There has NEVER ben ANY proof that smoking causes any of the diseases it has been claimed to - and it's all just that - CLAIMS - that have been repeated over and over and over again, until it has become "Truth" to most everyone who hasn't bothered to do some study into it. There are a number of posts on this forum about those "terrible smokers" who are causing their asthema - I have seen about 3 different studies that show that children brought up in smoking households - have about 30% LESS risk for asthema that those brought up in NON smoking homes - yet those studies are never mentioned in the media - because they go against the established "Agenda" - there are noted scientists and researchers who have lost their credibility - and funding - because they DARED to speak against the "Agenda" - and the first lie that ALL of of them face is - "You must be a paid shill for the tobacco companies" --- instead of just making possibly "liabelous claims" - maybe you should do some "truth finding" yourself! - BTW - I AM a smoker - and am "damn mad" that smokers in this country (and around the world) are now considered "second class citizens" - all because of an "Orchestrated Lie" - we pay higher taxes - higher insurance - face the risk of losing jobs, apartments, homes, friends, our children, our livelyhoods, and social lives, just because a (relatively) small group of people with money, power, and infuence - have suceeded in convincing the world that "We are the root of all evil"

I wish this forum would accept links - I have hundreds of them showing that what i say is indeed "FACT"

Many actually have been tested. There are problems, specifically with plastics and metals that under certain conditions can encourage cancers and hormone issues.

PS - It is also due to the "melting pot" effect. Never before have this many people of dissimilar ethnic origins intermarried to produce offspring. There is always a certain amount of genetic incompatibility for people of dissimilar ethnic backgrounds, which can actually mushroom (at least for a while) with succeeding generations. - RC

RickCarter - You are sooo wrong about childhood vaccines being the key to halting the rise of asthma. Asthma is not caused by a virus or lack of one. I had just about every vaccine known to man, as well as most of my peers, back in the 50s, but that had no effect on whether I got it or not

Asthma is a response by your lungs to allergens that you are sensitive to such as: Pet dander, grass, tree pollen, smoking, smog, certain chemicals, etc. . Many times, it is hereditary. My father suffered from severe allergies as I do. My sister, however, does not have allergies, but both her children do and have had asthma attacks. Most of the people who wore animal skins and were sensitive to animal dander and suffered asthma attacks, most likely died! We don't have any statistics about who had asthma back in the "cavemen" days, so those people most likely died off.

I don't see how you can attribute asthma attacks or the predisposition of asthma to certain ethnic origins. People of different tribes and ethnic origins have intermarried for generations upon generations. I have no idea what "genetic incompatibility" you're speaking of here. In fact, intermarriage in some cultures can lead to all kinds of genetic diseases.

In other words, you're not making a lot of sense with your "melting pot" argument here and how it coincides with the uptick in asthmatics. I believe it has more to do with environmental factors, not ethnic factors.

BTW - It wasn't really that long ago that doctors considered asthma to be a psychological disease. Asthmatics were considered to suffer from hypochondria.

And as long as we are careful how we take them, we can function quite well without damaging our future breathing.

slayer21 when I was in Alaska there was a lot of asthmatic children and none of them that I new came from a smoking household. And the parents I new that were asthmatic did not smoke and in general were health nuts.

Sorry, but too much money is being made selling fireplaces, chimneys, and firewood. Nothing will ever be done about it. I once lived in a neighborhood with a majority of the houses having fireplaces, and at night, the stench was unbearable and made my eyes water. That's one of the reasons I moved.

I love burning wood. Nothing like having a nice little fire in the fireplace to start the day on those cold winter mornings. Never hurt me one bit.