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If you were taking contraceptive pills when you met your husband, you may have a happier marriage. But your sex life might be meh.
Ladies, if you feel your partner is a great provider -- but meh in the love-making department -- it may have something to do with your birth control.
Women who were taking contraceptive pills when they met their significant other were more likely to stay in the relationship than women who weren’t on the Pill, according to new research. While the partners of the non-Pill taking women tend to be more handsome and better in the sack, their relationships just didn’t have the same staying power.
Good-looking and sexy or dull and nice. Seems there's always a trade-off when it comes to love.
The study was posted online Wednesday by the Proceedings of the Royal Society B.
Scottish and Czech scientists asked 2,500 women who were the biological mothers of at least one child about the father of the child and their relationship with him (not all the couples were married). And they also asked about the birth control they used when they met. The women were told only that the study was about their experiences of pregnancy and children and their relationship satisfaction.
Previous research has shown that hormonal variations over the menstrual cycle affect how women size up men as mate material. For example, studies have shown that women prefer more masculine men during ovulation than at other times of the month -- because the more macho, the more successful he is as a breeder.
Because the Pill smooths out those hormonal variations, researchers suspected that a muscle-bound hunk might not turn users' heads as much as a nice, average-looking guy with a steady job. And that's pretty much what they found. Women who'd been taking contraceptive pills when they met their partner were more likely to still be in the relationship. And while they rated their partner's body lower in attractiveness than women who hadn't been on the pill, they rated his "financial provision" more favorably.
"Our results show some positive and negative consequences of using the pill when a woman meets her partner," psychologist Craig Roberts of the University of Stirling in Scotland, said in a statement.
Other research by Roberts has found that oral contraceptives can also alter women’s preferences for men’s body odor. On the Pill, they gravitate toward the odor of men who are more genetically similar to them. But off the pill, they’re attracted to the odor of genetically dissimilar men when they’re ovulating.
“Women tend to find genetically dissimilar men attractive because resulting babies will be more likely to be healthy,” Roberts said in the release. “It’s part of the subconscious ‘chemistry’ of attraction between men and women.”
Because contraceptive pills smooth out those monthly hormonal variations, Roberts and his coauthors suspected Brad Pitt might not turn users’ heads as much as a nice, so-so-looking guy with a steady job. And that, pretty much, is what they found.
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That settles it - I guess my wife was on the pill when we met up.
No wonder I've never slept with a gal on the pill ;)
My Ex must have been taking a bottle a day! LOL!! Too bad the pill didn't work. Got 2 kids!
Only in America is it a bad thing to be a nice, calm guy with a steady job. That's why I married Chinese. The American girls can go off the pill and get knocked up by the whole Hell's Angels for all I care. They have great ball smell ladies.
Yes, I'm sure it's entirely the result of American women's bias that you 'married Chinese,' Mack . . . . but, could it possibly have anything to do with a propensity for commenting on the testicular aroma of Hell's Angels? Just some food for thought ;)
So the Scottish and Czech scientists were studying American women… Try using a little common sense Mack Morg
PDK; What I want to know is... How does Mack Morg know this?
BTW, I wasn't on the pill when I met my good-looking and hard-working hubby who is still around 25+ years later...(what a crock they can't share those attributes)
The pill often makes women boring. Not their fault of course, but it turns wild women into dull prudes. Makes complete sense they would choose a boring man when taking it. Sometimes the pill has a nice crazy side effect as well depending on the woman and which pill. IUDs aren't as bad, but they poke. Don't know about the ring. Anything better than an unwanted kid though.
TWO kids? Possible she only SAID the pill didn't work, Johnny. Read up on how some women lie about BC if they want a kid. And that's just from the ones that for some reason admit it.
Mack,
The study was done by Scottish and Czech scientists. So, I'm assuming that they interviewed Scottish and Czech women, not American women. Now you can say that I'm only assuming, but then again you're assuming it's American women.
2057059;
You say...
"The pill often makes women boring. Not their fault of course, but it turns wild women into dull prudes."
Unless you're a ob-gyn, there is no way you would know this in plurality unless you were an alley cat. Doesn't exactly make you look good - and certainly doesn't put you in any "expert" seat to give advice or opinions, because apparently if she isn't a slut, she's a prude.
I'll bet you're jealous of guys that have happy relationships...
Great response PDK!
I think the study is missing something. It isn't just about hormones. Women that are more educated and career oriented tend to use contraception more often. These women also have a tendency to pick their men more on the basis of earning potential than looks.
Interesting...That's really too bad for women, at least when I was drunk I was able to sober up before my date removed the bag from her head. Alcohol is a hell of a thing.
Reading for comprehension is fun! This is a report about women who take birth control pills picking boring lovers, not about birth control pills making women boring lovers. All you men who replied your women were taking birth control pills, you just admitted you're bad in the sack. Awesome!
Sorry prof - but in a happily married relationship. Wife tried MANY different pills after we dated a while with unpleasant results each time. Things always improved when she would stop taking the pill. She is not alone at all. Have several coupled friends and have had several discussions with them and others re: birth control. Guess what? None of them use the pill anymore for reasons discussed. Nobody likes any of them. Wife also worked in a gynecologist office years ago, as did one of her friends who I've also had BC discussions with. Also read about birth control options quite a bit online from various sources to find something that would work best for us. So far, IUD is best, but not perfect.
I have nothing against (STD / BC responsible) sluts or prudes for that matter and only used that term for easy to understand description of the effects of BC pills - sorry if it offended anyone. I am a feminist, as is my wife, and women should not be judged on sexual preferences whatever they may be. Men should also be responsible and involved with BC.
Not an alley cat, never have been (much to my dismay when younger). Just spent a lot of time on the subject since it affects my life quite a bit, did a lot of individual research, and spoke openly with many others.
After all of the discussions I have had with others, everyone I know, including gynecologist employees agree the various pills all have a negative effect on sexual desire. My online research backs this up as well. Although this apparently isn't always the case with every woman, I have never met someone that has denied this side effect. I feel if you talk with several women on the subject (that you are close to), they will admit this very thing as well. Seems to be quite noticeable to all.
Apologize again for my choice of language if it seemed derogatory, but it wasn't my intention and was only to make a quick point. As you can see, I tend to have a problem getting too long / detailed in posts. I was being derogatory toward the pill, not women.
Sorry prof...but your anecdotal evidence about "everyone" doesn't wash and you're awfully sheltered if you've never known a woman who doesn't agree with your mythology. There are plenty of other birth control methods and yet the pill remains the most popular among millions of women. There's a reason for that. it works, and its easy and did I mention it works. There is no "one" pill...there are different varieties...so if a woman doesn't like one, it's very easy to make a switch. (guess who started the myth about negatively impacting sexual desire).. in fact there are some studies that show it INCREASES sexual desire by freeing women up from the worry of unwanted pregnancies.
Hahaha. I literally shudder to think, prof ;)
was that to me instead of prof, AP?
If so, as stated in my post, "My online research backs this up as well. Although this apparently isn't always the case with every woman, I have never met someone that has denied this side effect"
I therefore already admitted this apparently isn't always the case with EVERY woman - just my (wife's) and probably at least 20 other women's identical experience whom I've had discussions with over many years. Look it up online. There are MANY women writing to forums with this very complaint, who, like my wife, tried several pills - all with decreased sexual desire. Here's a link with several various sites where you can read about the exact thing I wrote. Again, must not be EVERY woman, but sure seems it's most.
The pill is tolerable for most women I've talked to (including wife), and has worked 100% for everyone I know that took it properly to avoid pregnancy, but ALL have stated that there was more than noticable decreased desire. I still highly recommend the pill because I presume unwanted babies suck. I would more highly recommend an IUD.
Not mythology. Do some research, talk to women, you will find the same information. Post links supporting otherwise if I'm wrong.
Also, please post your link for the increase sexual desire study. I have a feeling that the study only states the sex acts increase due to less worry, but doubt it is because of the hormonal desire which is what I was discussing.
link didn't post - google "are there any birth control pills that don't decrease sexual desire"
plenty of women there complaining. READ
Yeah, 2057059, is right. Maybe partly right at worst. BC just makes it easier for woman to orgasm during sex because they're not worried about getting pregnant. It doesn't make them want to have sex more, it's just that once they start it is quite enjoyable and care free :)
I'm not one to criticize, but maybe you should all read a book if you're so interested in this subject. Like, "The Female Brain," by Louann Brizendine. Try not let her force the theory of evolution down your throat while you're reading it though. Think for yourself
I suppose this study should go one step further, and explain why going off the pill has lead to dissatisfaction in the sack, and a "meh" lover isn't cutting it anymore? She's ready to pounce, and he's complaining that he feels old and tired!!
That's what happens when he goes off the little blue pill.
Here is why I believe this is the case. This is my theory.
But women on the pill tend to do so because they are having unprotected sex. during ejaculation from the unprotected sex, the male release chemicals with his Sperm(DNA), which after a while, starts to mutate the woman's DNA, and creating this mental bond with the Man. the Chemicals of the male, are mixing inside with the woman, creating this attraction for longer periods.
the women not on the pill, likely doing so, because of other forms of protection. so she doesnt get this mixture of Male Chemicals.
ha ha - this is a great theory. How about another theory - perhaps the pill - hormonally is tricking the women's body into thinking it is pregnant - and so when a woman is pregnant she instinctively is looking for someone to provide and take care of her and baby as well as security.... nice guy with job - better security and father figure than hunky player....... hmmmm
Another Theory, I think you nailed it.
Maybe women that are on the pill are more responsible and choose their partners based on better reasoning than attraction. Just a thought
Jthimes--I think you nailed the obvious. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Another Theory, you're 70% right. Also remember-immune system. Ok, so too lazy to right anything else. But you're smart enough to figure it out
Maybe the more sensible women , who were on the pill, are just more responsible for their own health and well being. A woman on the pill might be with a reliable mate because that's what she would have chosen even if she was not on the pill. She chose the pill and she chose her mate out of her sense of being with someone she can trust....I'll bet these woman would still pick the same man Pill or no Pill....
That's a very good observation.
Luckily, I do research on flies and would can manipulate my subjects to get much clearer results. I do want to say (and this is of course a sample size of one though I've heard similar stories with other women), that when I went off hormone BC, my sex drive suddenly went into overdrive and sex became much more important (seriously didn't care about anything else). I hadn't even known my sex drive was suppressed (I had always had one, it just wasn't all-encompassing and I could get by with once every few days).
Luckily my husband was more then willing to keep up but if he had not been willing, it would probably create an issue that we would have to resolve in some way. Anyway, I think you raise a valid point though I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that hormones can suppress sex drives (that it does in some people has been documented), and that this could possibly make sex less important for those on hormone BC and therefore the sexiness of a mate less critical then other traits.
That said, even when a couple's sex drives don't match perfectly, if both parties are willing to work on it, there can usually be a compromise (and no, I don't think anyone should ever be pressured to have sex if they don't want to, but there are other compromises). So even if this effect is real, it doesn't have to be the end of strong relationships.
I read a similar study that said when women are seeking mates to produce offspring they are driven by instinct to find the mate with the most genetic difference related to the immune system and physical characteristics that the women interprets as physical fitness, primarily chest size, in men.
Dave's observation points out that a women's primary intention in choosing a husband is his ability to provide for her and her offspring, and this does not always translate into that man being the one she most wants to jump in the sack with, in contrast to being driven by the instinctual desire to mate.
Dave, I was thinking the same thing. My personal observation has been that responsible, mature females (the type that take life seriously) do everything they can to prevent un-expected events in their lives, including unexpected pregnancies. They're also the types that make sure the men in their lives are the play-it-safe, build-a-life types as well. On the other hand, the free-spirited type women I've met were the types that weren't interested in a man unless he had looks, was free-spirited as well, and had an element of "danger" about him. (The proverbial "bad-boy"). These type women can't be counted on to regularly take vitamins everyday, let alone birth control pills. As a matter of fact I once knew a ding-bat that sometimes would intentionally had sex without protection of any type. She said the risk made it "more exciting". To her it was like Russian Roulette I guess.
You're equating using the pill with being sensible and responsible? Nothing could be further from the truth. The pill wreaks havoc on women's hormones, moods and emotions. Would you prefer to live with someone who cried and fought with you all month long while they got nauseated from every smell that drifted in thru the window, from cooking smells to smoke to exhaust. It's as bad as being pregnant (nausea) without the joy of children. Maybe YOU need to re-examine what being responsible is. If you don't want children, don't have sex. You clearly aren't very aware of the role hormones play in people's moods, feelings, actions, and how attracted they are to other people.
Let me guess, you read about all of these "side effects" in one of those wacky christian pamphlets?
Not to mention, if you were living with someone who was practicing abstainance as a contraceptive, mood swings would be A LOT WORSE.
This is a great point Dave. I think you're most likely correct. In my life I've seen trashy dumb girls always choose some 'macho' loser and smarter women giving more careful thought about who they want to be with for life. The way I see it is some people are stuck in the Animal kingdom, others have evolved.
@ pacificmomma, what pill were you on!? Good grieft, I've been on different kinds over the years and as a mature mom in her 40's NEVER had anything close to those side effects.
@ Sog-510945 - Get off your Anti-Christian wishful thinking. Being Christian as NOTHING to do with being against the pill. Only the CATHOLIC church has issues and that's will ALL birth control. As a CHRISTIAN mom, I've used them for years and NEVER heard a single other Christian, including my Holiness grandmother ever say anything against the pill. As for Christians using abstinence, it's the ONLY form of birth control that is 100% guaranteed. And maybe if liberals weren't so busy trying to shove sex ed down our teens throats, we wouldn't be giving them the gun they shoot themselves with. Teens are NOT mature enough to handle all the aspects of sexual activity, especially today's teens. And if you think I'm wrong, then try to explain why since we've OK'd sex as a society that teen pregnancies have sky-rocketed, STD's have sky-rocketed, child neglect has sky rocketed (because life is valued less!), and teens have more emotional issues tied back to their sex lives. Maybe they should wait til they are mature enough to handle it. And that is not just a Christian view to take.
And lastly, back to the story here. I agree with other posts, It's not that the women on the pill look for boring mates, they look for good mates. Not some irresponsible one nite stand. And I know from experience, good does NOT equate with boring.
Not sure why you felt that you had to bring politics into it and assert that to be a Christian you must be a conservative. Nothing could be further from the truth. The very statement makes me question your veracity.
Again, questionable. Some people just have to spend longer trying to work and support their families. The holier than thou crowd interprets this as "not valuing life". Pretty harsh.
Pacific Momma, sounds like your body had an adverse reaction to the pill you were on. I'm a twentysomething college student who has been on the Pill for hormonal control for about 5 years because I had irregular and extremely painful periods as a teenager, and I've never felt like I was pregnant like you did.
@pacificmomma - I didn't have the nausea, but I had the mood swings, crying all the time over every little thing - I didn't know what was wrong with me...one day it just clicked - I wasn't like this before I took the pill, so maybe that has something to do with it. So next time I went to the GYN I explained and they suggested a different pill. Things got a lot better. I went off the pill for a few years and was nervous about restarting it recently, but I'm taking Yaz this time and no problems at all.
In reference to the article - i just turned 30, have been back on the pill for almost a year and I think my partner is both sexy and a good provider :)
Not true sog. you're just sheltered. Within your social circle I mean. No offense..
Women who "are on Pill", have no love. For all true love must factor God in, and He is against the Pill. That is the first problem withn the survey. All authentic relations between men and women must be based on love. Thus, women who do not truly love cannot choose the right husbands. God created woman to be a helper to man, not an "authority" over him. Some feminists still don't get this. During this election period in Europe, America and England, as well as many other morally dissolute countries in Europe, have flooded more Christian nations with lesbians. They kiss passionately in front of thousands of children travelling home from school. They do this to swing the voting away from conservative candidates! They ap[parently have had "success" in countries like Poland, among the student population! They want to influence the young minds that "love" between women is as good as between men! They are wrong. By doing this, they will bring down the entire civilisations!
You couldn't be funnier if you tried... LOL
Great satire you had me believing it for a while.
Either this is good satire or mr. desert is a Michelle Bachmann supporter.
Suspect she is a Bachmann supporter.
BRAVO!!! I know troll-bait when I smell it, and you, sir/madame, are an artiste! Thanks, and please give us more.
Unfortunately you are wrong on a number of points and it is these errors that allow those pushing the abnormal life style to discount the truth. A good relationship does not start with love. Love is not an accident. No one falls in love. They fall in lust. Love is a choice. God has no problems with the pill. He has problems with us sinning by using the pill to go hope in the sack with everyone we can. We are more valuable than that and we should be treating ourselves much better. God chose to love us. So we are to choose to love a mate and to commit to that person for our life just like God is committed to us always.
Pick a person for the right reasons then chose to love them regardless of their flaws. That is what this study shows. Women who remove their over excited emotions and strong physical drives tend to use more reason and logic when choosing a mate.
One man and one woman. We are biologically matched pairs. I believe this is by design. Other may not but no one can deny it as fact. Love is a choice and when we all understand that our heart breaks will go away. Our happiness is not dependant on others but on our selves. We must start treating ourselves and our bodies with much more respect and care. I don't let anyone else drive my car but my closest friends and family so why would I share my body with the world. If I truly believe I am of great value only the one right person would be my mate and they would conform to my biological structure.
Which god do you speak of? I'm sure yours is the only god which I am guessing is the Christian god. What you posted here is your opinion, please stop stating it as fact because the non believers of the world are really insulted.
The invisible man in the sky that apparently created all this should really be proud of the work that was done. I would have taken an eraser to it and started over a long time ago but then you will explain things like "free will" which was granted to us with God never to intervene again. For everything that happens you will find an explanation for it yet religious folks never tell us anything in advance. It is the equivalent of believing in Nostrodumbass. Nobody has pegged his predictions before they happened, only aligned them after.
I have been in lust many times in my life but have only been in love a few. There is a difference and the pill has much to do with one but nothing to do with the other.
Are you serious? LOL!!!!
If you are truly a Browns Backer then I understand why you are non-believer. No compassionate God would ever allow such suffering to go on and on and on............
No birth control, but no abortions either. God so wanted us to populate like rabbits. I don't think so. Where in the Bible does it say "Thou shall not use birth control" Aaahhhh! Just go get a vasectomy!
I ! .....unfortunately for the mmost part we are idiots who let the media and whats pop fill our minds.. not God...we are brainwashed before we leave the womb !! Thank God we have the perfect example of Love .... in Christ. Love is what we alll need !
Unfortunately you are wrong on a number of points and it is these errors that allow those pushing the abnormal life style to discount the truth. A good relationship does not start with love. Love is not an accident. No one falls in love. They fall in lust. Love is a choice. God has no problems with the pill. He has problems with us sinning by using the pill to go hope in the sack with everyone we can. We are more valuable than that and we should be treating ourselves much better. God chose to love us. So we are to choose to love a mate and to commit to that person for our life just like God is committed to us always.
Pick a person for the right reasons then chose to love them regardless of their flaws. That is what this study shows. Women who remove their over excited emotions and strong physical drives tend to use more reason and logic when choosing a mate.
One man and one woman. We are biologically matched pairs. I believe this is by design. Other may not but no one can deny it as fact. Love is a choice and when we all understand that our heart breaks will go away. Our happiness is not dependant on others but on our selves. We must start treating ourselves and our bodies with much more respect and care. I don't let anyone else drive my car but my closest friends and family so why would I share my body with the world. If I truly believe I am of great value only the one right person would be my mate and they would conform to my biological structure.
Freudian slip?
"By doing this, they will bring down the entire civilisations!" - Desert Voice. I'm pretty sure lust/love/gay/indifferent..etc ihas not or will not bring down civilizations . However, how many wars has religion caused? How many civilizations were destroyed due to different beliefs? Hmm....get back to me on that one.
By the way- do you know what a lemming is? Follow me, I'll show you.
Why do you insist upon ruining the world with your religious nonsense? I was a cradle catholic too. However, I did myself a favor and "threw that millstone of wholesale guilt off on my neck." My career got better, my sex life improved, and I have three wonderful children with a strong non-Christian woman.
However, don't allude yourself about Catholic women not practicing birth control. They do. And those that cannot afford it know what mouths and butts are for.
V/r,
LTC Rattus, USA, ret.
I read a study not so long ago that said these same women would have an affair with these hunks and get pregnant and let the nice guy pay for and raise the kids sired by another. I think the truth is these women as they get a little older go to the nice guys so they don't have to have as much sex. Having a good sex life takes work and people these days are just plain lazy. Men and woman both. If men romanced women like the did before they got married I wouldl bet they would have more and better sex.
Good point- a foundation of my marriage is that we vowed to always try and be someone the other person can't live without- not that we would stick around forever if we are miserable (neither wants to see the other one miserable so if we are and there is no way to fix it, we vow to break up - I'm honestly not worried though). Therefore we don't take each other for granted and are always in the "woo" mode.
I guess that study's conclusion is as good an explanaition as any. For whatever reason, there have always been certain women that have, shall we say, let one man plant the seed, but let another do all the hard work and gardening. As an old saying by Mark Twain went, "The study of genetics explains why you look like your father...or why you should."
So fun, good looking men aren't nice. Hum....Interesting.... I wonder where she goes shopping for men? Maybe the bowling alley???
A lot of really attractive guys have really big egos too. Selfishness or ego doesn't bode well for long term relationships.
Or they are gay... not that there's anything wrong with that.
Krista- I have noticed that too. Though I've meet several wonderful guys who are also major hunks- these men were not popular during high school though and that probably made them humble. That said, sexiness is often a state of mind rather then looks. I image women off hormone BC who sex has become suddenly extra important are would happily stay with a fun, creative and giving lover rather then a male-model that doesn't feel the need to try. Sexiness is a lot more then looks.
I agree with you there, EmilyinIowa. Looks have never been the top priority for me. Personality, intelligence, wit, creativity ;) those are tops. I think this 'study' is kind of ridiculous. Just because a guy isn't gorgeous or muscle bound, that doesn't mean he's a bad lover. In fact guys who have to work for it are usually better :)
Up next, study finds that when women don't take the pill they prefer men made entirely out of chocolate. When asked about the methodology employed by the researchers, the researchers laughed out loud and ran off like giddy school children.
Strip Clubs!
OMG!
EmilyinIowa or Krista,
Have either of you seen Shallow Hal? You both just made almost direct quote observations from that movie and I am LMAO.
I've been with my husband for 18 years and no one else and we are just as wild about each other now as we were while we were dating. Have our libidos slowed down a bit due to child rearing and everyday stress. Maybe a bit; but we WORK at it and take everything in stride. I can't imagine being on this journey with anyone else and I would say that comes down to mate selection. Knowing myself FIRST and being confident were the things that garnered the dates and the selective options.
Men who serial date don't know themselves and therefore will always be bumble bees. Pretty flower to pretty flower; but no real permanent connection. Just my two cents, warbled and thrown together.
No we don't!
Haha
Mrwiz, don't try to understand it. American women don't have to make smart mate selection decisions because we live in a country where most everyone gets to eat. The result - they choose 'fun' guys who have a exciting criminal record and anger management issues. It's exciting never knowing if you might get slapped around by your mate see. That's why articles like this will imply that nice guys can't be fun or good looking.
Mack Morg, how many American women do you think there are in Scotland? The study was not done on American women.
Attention boring men, please make unannounced visits home often you will be surprised what you find. Why...there is another mule kicking in your stall.
Everyday I am totally blown way by statistics that are beyond banal. This had to cost money. Probably BIG monies. Information is good. But it should be meaningful. It should have relevance. And this info will help anyone how???????????
This will help all the guys out there that think they have to be great looking and muscular to pick up women. They now know they just need to find a woman on the pill and present her with a lot of money!
So, how long has your wife been taking the pill, Picard?
haha, just kiddin'
Flooded with lesbians! Laughing out loud. Kudos! Look out...a deluge of dikes! A barrage of Birkenstocks!
Nice.
Hazmatt: let me get this straight (pun intended)...you think if a woman is on birth control, she's a lesbian? So you are over 13, right? You did get to the part in biology where they show you a drawing of REAL girl?? oh never mind...
Are good "provider" men necessarily boring lovers?
Apparently so. Can't win for losing!
You can help a guy become a better lover, but you can't change a selfish jerk into becoming a good partner :)
Kirsta - I agree. I discovered a long time ago to let the lady be comfortable in telling you what she likes. Be open and honest with each other. Don't be afraid to open up or take direction. It's amazing how bonding being that open to each other is. And the sex? Amazing!
Yes, but have you noticed that regardless of good or bad, all women are boring. Women will complain about duration and technique, but if you ask them to put some effort into it, they are useless without the bj.
Women just lie there yelling and we do all the work.
Arse - you do realize that 'missionary' is not the only position, right?
I guess my wife was only on half a pill, I am both.
This study does not meet the criteria for the scientific method, concerning cause and effect, therefore on its own does not prove anything. However, the results are predictable when prior studies are taken into account. I think the results are most likely right on the money.
I respectfully disagree. I believe this study is garbage because it doesn't have the most basic foundation in the scientific method. A lack of rigor in your methodology means you can concoct any correlation to fit a narrative. I am certain I could find an equal correlation using the same rigor with what these people ate for breakfast the morning they met their significant other. Cereal = boring but nice, chocolate chip waffles with whipped cream and strawberries = sexy but mean!
One detail this article doesn't mention is that biologically speaking, when women are ready to conceive, they are looking for superior genes for their offspring. This is usually indicated by larger, stronger, and healthier men, characteristics that in modern society are considered macho. Studies have shown that they also consider body symmetry as an indicator of good health. For example, one study claimed that Paul Newman had the most symmetrical face in Hollywood's history. Once they have conceived, they then look for a partner likely to be a good provider for them and their offspring. Of course, most women today are unaware of these biological forces driving their behavior. They just know what feels good to them. So to put this in modern terms, when women are horniest, they want Richard Gere or Warren Beatty. The rest of the month, they want Bill Gates.
Actually, this is mentioned in the article:
Previous research has shown that hormonal variations over the menstrual cycle affect how women size up men as mate material. For example, studies have shown that women prefer more masculine men during ovulation than at other times of the month -- because the more macho, the more successful he is as a breeder.
I know a read a report maybe two years ago that said women make poorer choices for partners while on the pill.
B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T.
What makes a woman do what she does cannot be analyzed. It's a mystery.
poor thing. No wonder you're think we are getting hosed.
My post got deleted by a higher authority. :-(
Probably some woman on the pill!
An opinion from a woman, thats all.
How much did this earth-shattering study cost?
You'd think if a woman was on the pill she'd be gearing up for some serious "action." But it says they prefer the boring type. Yup, makes sense to me....
Funny how this is seen to be a binary condition - dull and dependable or not-dull and not-dependable. As if there were no dull undependable men out there. :)
Sure there are, just go to WVA!
The pill suppresses ovulation. The hormones in birth control pills somewhat simulate a pregnancy. It is believable that the primary goal of a pregnant woman is to insure the well being of her soon to be born child. Based on this logic, she should be drawn to males who are provider types and/or the father of her fetus. (Males are usually far more protective and better providers for their own offspring.)
I don't think that it is surprising that dosing a woman with hormones will also effect her sexual behavior.
I often wondered about the brain on birth control pills. I was not on the pill when I met my husband and but went on it while we were dating. However, when I went off the pill 15 years later, I started noticing hot construction guys that I had paid no attention to in the past. I remember this well, it was like a switch in my brain. We did divorce years later, but it didn't have anything to do with...hmmm, now you have me thinking...
I had the same thing happen with the switch flipping. As EmilyInIowa said, sex became very important. I tried to explain this to my husband, but he thinks it's "Hooey!" Oh well...boring and dependable is better than nothing at all.
and how much did this vital piece of data cost the people??
Liberal sluts who need support because they cannot get jobs.
Ha! Ha!
What a boring f---king story.
Hahaha . . . . assuming the pun was intended.
Most definitely!